zubairali2
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i understand that however the way the climate is right now around the world, it isnt getting any better. sure games get delayed but covid 19 has made an even bigger impact to game development than before.
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i understand that however the way the climate is right now around the world, it isnt getting any better. sure games get delayed but covid 19 has made an even bigger impact to game development than before.
TheGreatWhiteShark
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it's written in the press release, "the safety and health is top priority at arkane, so we adjusted to working from home"
Entroyp
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I want to know why so many journalists shill for MS. It must be profitable so I need to find out how to get into that...
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Dodkrake
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Typical Xbox. Since this a speculation thread, my guess is that they had some issues with the dev kits and didn't deliver them in time.
TJC
Member
These people never learn. I get that they get attention for being so dumb but it's hilarious to watch.Here’s a little bit of fun ....
From : https://www.hardwaretimes.com/xbox-...racing-mesh-shading-sampler-feedback-and-vrs/
Yikes. Well there it is.... how can Sony ever come back from this revelation?
Except
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Areej Syed is the author of the article and the speculator of this btw.
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Three Jackdaws
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Really don't know why those idiots are jumping on that silly bandwagon, do they even understand what constitutes "RDNA 2", only AMD know that for certain but as the PS engineer mentioned, RDNA 1,2,3 etc are just market terms to simplify things for the consumer market.
Based on official information we already know PS5 has a majority of the RDNA 2 features, RedGamingTech mentioned Sony removed certain features because they didn't find them useful for the console. He also mentioned they added their own custom features which we already know such as the cache scrubbers and the Geometry Engine (the latter RGT claims will be featured in RDNA 3).
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Gamernyc78
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My comment still stands whether it's coivid related or not but thank you for the clarification.
TheGreatWhiteShark
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...as things turn out, the three things I want are
a) series X to cost less than a thousand bucks :]
b) cyberpunk xbone X version to have an option for 60 or unlimited fps with dynamic resolution
c) cyberpunk launch on time
and even for these, I believe maybe at least one will not happen
fuck this covid year
a) series X to cost less than a thousand bucks :]
b) cyberpunk xbone X version to have an option for 60 or unlimited fps with dynamic resolution
c) cyberpunk launch on time
and even for these, I believe maybe at least one will not happen
fuck this covid year
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GriffinCorp
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Deathloop has been delayed 
Spring 2021 - I can't wait to get a chance to play this.
Spring 2021 - I can't wait to get a chance to play this.
Gamerguy84
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This is a question Ive asked here but mostly in my own mind. The only thing I can come up with is they are still working on velocity arch.
Ive read and heard that from more than one person and it would fit, again its personal speculation though.
The hardware is in production, so everything is well beyond finalized. So that would be a day 1 FW update every console maker throws out.
If anyone knows something different feel free to correct this as Id love to know the truth as well.
TJC
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I can't remember where I heard but MS basically treat influencers alot better. Free cyberpunk chair anyone?. Sony don't give a crap about them because they are more concerned with what Devs think.
Nickolaidas
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Timdog tweeting about the PS5 being RDNA 0.8 in 3, 2, 1 ...
Moridianae
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Got a feeling we'll see quite a few titles, big and small, miss the launch day or window for both of these consoles.
I think Sony and MAYBE MS can get 1 or 2 good gems lined up for launch, but this late in the game with delays showing up, I expect both consoles to have a pretty barren launch selection, probably the worst in a while.
I think Sony and MAYBE MS can get 1 or 2 good gems lined up for launch, but this late in the game with delays showing up, I expect both consoles to have a pretty barren launch selection, probably the worst in a while.
Nickolaidas
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Fuck this year in general.
ToadMan
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This would be a normal process for hardware prototyping though. I mean back a couple of years and the current specs of PS5 weren’t available in any form on the most advanced PC build.
It’s the same as the recent rumours about RE8 performance on PS5 when that game is a year + away from release.
So those rumours can be both true and simultaneously unrepresentative of the final product.
And how alot of FUD happens.
Yep. Tbh that’s why I posted it - this will pop up somewhere as a quote and generate a whole new vein of FUD.
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Zoro7
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Isnt it April to June? Surely they would refer to a calendar year with their Qs?
SaucyJack
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SaucyJack
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In this context you would have thought so. As far as a consumer is concerned it is, the fact that some games companies have a financial year that starts In April would seem irrelevant.
reezoo
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Three similar architectures developed in parallel to be available by end of 2020. To say one is based on other is nonsensical as each has its own priorities . MS has to take care of DX 12U. Sony, cost backward compatibility. AMD to not release anything better then Nvidia. All three must have crossed paths in design as they are from same company/competency.
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TheGreatWhiteShark
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the dude was thinking that even xbox, that started a full year later was not full rdna2, so he says he contacted amd about it, then he striked-out the "xbox is rdna 1.5" headlineAnd how alot of FUD happens.
it seems amd did not confirm for ps5 though, only for xbox. and even for xbox, they didn't confirm whatever he asked about the node.
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ToadMan
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I know. It’s incredible isn’t it?
This is the bio of the author btw :
A computer engineering dropout by his own admission decides to speculate on the hardware spec of the PS5 in opposition to representatives of the companies who are developing that HW.
That takes some ego ....
Dodkrake
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Entroyp
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I know. It’s incredible isn’t it?
This is the bio of the author btw :
A computer engineering dropout by his own admission decides to speculate on the hardware spec of the PS5 in opposition to representatives of the companies who are developing that HW.
That takes some ego ....
What’s with MS affinity to mentally unstable people?
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MasterCornholio
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the dude was thinking that even xbox, that started a full year later was not full rdna2, so he says he contacted amd about it, then he striked-out the "xbox is rdna 1.5" headline
it seems amd did not confirm for ps5 though, only for xbox. and even for xbox, they didn't confirm whatever he asked about the node.
You can't classify the PS5 as RDNA1.5 though or even RDNA2.5.
Sony did some strange customizations to the system so they can't claim they it's what AMDs RDNA2 spec sheet says. All they can do is state that it's custom RDNA2 which is does have RDNA2 CUs in it.
Wraith Phantom
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Oh boy here we go!! Tales from a fanboys ass online, it must be truehere we go the github crew tht was so savagely beaten down wn several times, lately with Halo showing will be resuscitated, Mark my words.
People still entertaining this nonsense.. That's the saddest part. Hardware is over with. Its about the games now. This hardware talk is over. Its about the games.
BlueXImpulse
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I know. It’s incredible isn’t it?
This is the bio of the author btw :
A computer engineering dropout by his own admission decides to speculate on the hardware spec of the PS5 in opposition to representatives of the companies who are developing that HW.
That takes some ego ....
Dropped out to be a full-time fanboy
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Nickolaidas
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You know, after browsing Timdog's twitter history, I'm starting to believe it's a real job.
TheGreatWhiteShark
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I dont know about affinity, as he downplayed both cpu and gpu of xbox.
microsoft yesterday spoke about the cpu, and upon being asked why there is less L3 cache they replied that its for to amd to disclose that, not that its not what it is.
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BlueXImpulse
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iamvin22
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Yup. MS just sent Twitter user Paris a flight simulator flight stick setup
Pretty sure he means a XSX game and not a BC game.
TheGreatWhiteShark
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both sony and microsoft did and do a lot of customizations, thats not a sony prerogative though.
and sony by not doing a stripdown, this only puts more fuel to the fire.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Honestly the fact MS has barely shown anything on XSX is both concerning, but like.. also the last bastion of hope.
Maybe stuff actually running on XSX will be superior to what they've shown.
Maybe stuff actually running on XSX will be superior to what they've shown.
MasterCornholio
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Mark said we would get something in the future. Let's see if it happens?
Just because Microsoft went first doesn't mean that Sony isn't doing it.
It's like saying there's something wrong with the XSX because the competition showed games running on their system.
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Entroyp
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L3 cache kind of falls into what most people were speculating it to be I think. After all, die space is expensive and caches take quite a lot of it.
What I’m trying to say is after what we got las gen it’s really really hard to be disappointed at what we are getting this time around (on both PS5 and XsX).
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Sinthor
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That's the thing. For Xbox fans I think they need to just be a bit patient. Everything you're seeing the PS5 do, XSX will very likely do as well. In some cases a bit better technically (though I don't think differences for either will be visible unaided) as the PS5 will have some technical advantages in others. But bottom line....XSX should be producing the same types and quality of visuals that we're seeing more of on PS5 right now. So they will be fine. MS is just behind the time curve for whatever reason (I still think it was a shift and then change back in strategy, but whatever) and will deliver down the road.
Neo Blaster
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Summary: boring as hell for non-enthusiasts.
TheGreatWhiteShark
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software development was for sure kicked hard in the butt with covid and all these large teams working from home.
but also I was shown in here a beyond3d post that said that dev kits for series x were to be replaced, as better hardware was needed to match the final retail performance
here it is
One specific person assumes PS5 3rd Party Devs Are Finding Hardware Troublesome™, “Sony Too” May be Common
Not a developer but fear mongering? Booo this guy boooo
Metroiddarks
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Yes you are in part right but we can know in some degree in the presentation of AMD this year or as soon the first RDNA 2 GPUS are out there.
The thing with 25% number is a incredible number compare to RDNA 1 but against to Polaris well is far from be impressive, specially when you see what
NVIDIA is doing.
Finally I am really tired of company Playstation and Xbox delay so much any kind of info but AMD and NVIDIA oh boy this is just hilarious they
delay the info even more than the console manufacturers.
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TheGreatWhiteShark
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sircaw
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How could you not of known, such a lightweight?
I have known about this place since, ok you win
Can someone fly over sonys headquarters and zoom the fuck in and see what is going on.
Maybe they got a sky roof.
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silent head
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sircaw
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MasterCornholio
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DaGwaphics
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Was any additional information released from the MS presentation itself? Or just what was covered on the slides?
IllegalLemon
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That’s just clickbait. Nothing more. More clicks mean more attention and therefore increased ad revenue. They have to pay the staff of that website somehow. Also, there are still things that are under NDA on both platforms, what’s a Microsoft Xbox engineer doing speaking to a random nobody on the internet, he’ll risk losing his job if he talks about things he’s supposed to say nothing about. Oh and by the way. The PS5’s gpu has already been confirmed by Sony to be based on Rdna 2.0 and heavily customized by Sony, just like Microsoft has heavily customized theirs (which is also based on Rdna 2.0).
Xbox Series X GPU Architecture Deep Dive: Ray-Tracing, Mesh Shading, Sampler Feedback and VRS | Hardware Times
Today, at HotChips, MS detailed the Xbox Series X architecture, including the CPU and GPU technologies driving the next-gen console. In this post, the primary focus will be the GPU architecture which is based on AMD’s RDNA 2 along with the various hardware and software optimizations implemented...www.hardwaretimes.com
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Gamernyc78
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Sony rarely is reactionary to fanboy nonsense. They have an internal date when and where they will do their breakdown. It would be diff if we didn't know how Sony operates. When 9.0 TF was storming the internet, fake yield issues Sony said nothing for months until they were ready to divulge info. RDNA 2 has already been confirmed months ago but ppl want to hear and see what thy want based on bias.
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Kenneth Haight
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