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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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SamWeb

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You mean one that got ray tracing and one that has not - ray tracing takes allot of power.

Are you really that naive ?
You just want to portray me as naive.
Technology does not play a role here, unlike logical thinking.

And.... regardless of the example I gave, XSX most likely has noticeably more "ray tracing power"
 

DaGwaphics

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There is more ways to get insight on sales and popularity than just straight comparing of numbers.

Do tell. :messenger_beaming:

Realistically, of course PS will sell more. Early sales are based on the hardcore that adopt new tech quickly, it's natural that the console with 110m users would have a larger number of these buyers than the console with 45m users. But, if burning through stock is what matters to you, Xbox should just release 10 units total WW for pre-orders (they'd win the race for sure).
 
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SamWeb

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You dont, but if someone reactivates an account to post some console warrior bs it raises a lot of flags. Also, if you have been reading this thread regularly you would have seen the posts about the very same topic. Why post it again.
I haven't read the topic for about a week. And stop indirectly blaming me for something ... it looks pretty paranoid. It's still a free topic isn't it?
 

geordiemp

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You just want to portray me as naive.
Technology does not play a role here, unlike logical thinking.

And.... regardless of the example I gave, XSX most likely has noticeably more "ray tracing power"

No i portray you as intellectually challenged troll, which can be seen by everyone on this forum.

You realise everyone is laughing AT YOU.

Are you not embarrassed ? Come back when you got some facts or gameplay to discuss your powa narrative, we dont see any ?
 
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saintjules

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Well, I've seen people like AngryJoe saying he's just buying the console just to review it, so there must be people that are just getting the XSX just to have one.
I'm getting both day 1.
I will be playing COD, Valhalla, CyberPunk on X because better,
I am not interested on Demon's remake, and I sure as hell ain't forking 80e to sony for Destruction or Miles.
I ain't reviewing or selling shit also.
So, according to your way of thinking, I'm getting the ps5 just to have one?
 

Garani

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If you pretend PSnow doesn't exist, sure, it's better value. This is the same as pretending consoles with no exclusives are better value.

And by the way, you can actually get a 1 year card for PS Now at €30/35, which is like less than €3 per month. Honestly, the amount of STUFF you have access to on PS Now is fenomenal, and you can actually download the PS4 games on the console, so they can run natively.

My son is actually re-playing the PS3 versions of Ratchet and Clank games on the PS4 via PSNow streaming instead of turning them on our PS3 that we keep for old games.
 
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What? A 8.75TF GPU?
I dont know how this pans out in cpu or gpu numbers. its just clockspeeds based on cerny's talk, and its a "worst case game" scenario per cerny, for sustained performance.
I already have commented since the day they were twitted that the numbers displayed on that tweet seem to me completely out of whack.
As I said, before you decorate your Christmas tree there will be no more secrets.
 

Et3rn1ty

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I'm getting both day 1.
I will be playing COD, Valhalla, CyberPunk on X because better,
I am not interested on Demon's remake, and I sure as hell ain't forking 80e to sony for Destruction or Miles.
I ain't reviewing or selling shit also.
So, according to your way of thinking, I'm getting the ps5 just to have one?
Probably yes because from your sayings why do you need to obtain a ps5 from day one?any sane human beeing would choose his favotite platform to play the games he like or the exlusives he want and make comoromises to other aspects or vice versa....so whats your point exactly?
 

Mr Moose

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I dont know how this pans out in cpu or gpu numbers. its just clockspeeds based on cerny's talk, and its a "worst case game" scenario per cerny, for sustained performance.
I already have commented since the day they were twitted that the numbers displayed on that tweet seem to me completely out of whack.
As I said, before you decorate your Christmas tree there will be no more secrets.
Didn't he say 2-3% or something drop? It should be always close to/above 10-10.28TF, never 8.75TF.
 
I'm getting both day 1.
I will be playing COD, Valhalla, CyberPunk on X because better,
I am not interested on Demon's remake, and I sure as hell ain't forking 80e to sony for Destruction or Miles.
I ain't reviewing or selling shit also.
So, according to your way of thinking, I'm getting the ps5 just to have one?

What on earth are you going on about? You could start an argument in a phone box.

I've had enough of your silly posts.
 

xacto

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How many people does it take to change a FUD bulb - none, you don't change any bulb you just shit in one hand and wish in the other; watch which one fills up first and then throw it at the wall to see what sticks.

Or it could all depend on what recreational drugs you used... altering the feelings, perceptions... maybe FUD isn't really FUD until you kicked the habit, you know 🤣
 
No, the difference is larger.
The 825GB of the PS5 are "marketing" GB, which translates to 768 "real" GB.
The TerraByte are 1024 "real" GB, so the difference are 256 "real" GB between both

"real": 1KByte = 1024 Bytes
"marketing": 1KByte = 1000 Bytes. Marketing loves to use it for advertising the size of Harddiscs because it sounds more impressive. Some apps use it to make it easier for the users who do not know about the 1024 thing

The usage of the "marketing" GB was confirmed by Mark cerny around the time of his march talk, when he said something like that 825GB is the logical size because they are using 12 channels and 12 chips, and 12x64 = 825.

This has already been covered.

Not marketing but an IEC spec.

1 TB = 1000 GB = 1.000.000 MB = 1.000.000.000 KB
1 TiB = 1024 GiB = 1.048.576 MiB = 1.073.741.824 KiB

HDD/SSD vendors use TB/GB to define the size of their drives. Windows for example uses TiB/GiB, which is why a 1TB drive only shows 931GB within the windows file system. It displays as GB but is actually GiB.

So, the 1TB drive in an XBox One /S/X is 931GiB which is the size reflected in the OS. Same with the PS4.
Unless Microsoft are changing this in the Series S|X, the size reflected will be 931GiB for the X and 466GiB for the S.
 
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IMO a more realistic scenario for a sustained performance would be 2.8-3.2CPU for 1.9-2.0GPU
Anything worse than this, and sooner or later heads will roll.
After November and before Christmas trees, there will be no more secret sauces.

(I suppose I'll bite too)

You're too fixated on performance numbers, which is fine when we didn't see or know anything about the games.

Point one - in terms of cross gen games, both systems seem to be performing similarly eg Dirt 5

Point two - Demon's Souls is currently the most visually impressive next gen title, and unless I'm missing something, nothing on Series X (shown so far) matches or exceeds it. And no, in-engine trailers, target renders etc... don't count.

Just how important are these numbers when we start seeing more and more next gen games in action.
 
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They might pack in an A-to-C cable, but nothing prevents you from getting a C-to-C cable and using it to charge the controller.

Yeah, you can definitely do that to, but seeing that they gave you that A to C cable in the box that leads me to believe they included that USB-C port for another reason and not for the controller.
 
Didn't he say 2-3% or something drop? It should be always close to/above 10-10.28TF, never 8.75TF.
Yes.
Here is what else he said just before that:


he says that 3.0CPU and 2.0GPU seemed unobtainable with fixed clocks
he also says the 2.2 cap is at the point above which the chip logic fails
you have to keep in mind that consumption has a cube relation to clockspeeds
and thermals relation to consumption is yet unknown for ps5,
but cerny also did say that cpu/gpu are clocked in a way that produce equal thermals


watch the above video, 3 weeks after cerny's presentation, and after some thinking and talking around, with cerny included.
 
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That's not big enough news to Tweetdelete, in my opinion. Maybe you're right,, but I feel it is something far more substantial to take the wind out of Microsoft's preorder launch.

A simple UI showing alone won't do that if you ask me. Gotta be something more major than that.

Unless Sony is doing something crazy with the UI it could be big news.

Edit: If it's a big game announcement I'm expecting something like that at an actual event.
 
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HeisenbergFX4

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Did anyone here catch the tweet to confirm it was legit? I haven't been on Twitter much today :messenger_weary:
I wonder what it could be *strokes invisible beard*

I didnt catch it I have been doing a little work online with a couple of charities for the last 2 hours or so and have Twitter running on my ipad the whole time and I didnt see anything from him.

Not saying it didnt happen just think something like that would have blown up.
 
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