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Digital Foundry: “PS5 teardown is uninteresting, until we get our own hands on"
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Slings and Arrows
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Why does this thread exist, let alone have 10 pages?
I don't get what there is to talk about, let alone debate
I don't get what there is to talk about, let alone debate
Katt”BuckNasty”Johnston
Member
Lol I learn something new everyday on the GAF.
PropellerEar
Member
There is no real analysis happening with XSeX or XSeS at DF. There probably is a deal which dictates what theyare allowed to show and when.
It also seems that they are not allowed to compare XSeX or XSeS to PS5 or PC GPUs while they are in this deal with MSFT.
It also seems that they are not allowed to compare XSeX or XSeS to PS5 or PC GPUs while they are in this deal with MSFT.
MarkMe2525
Member
Totally out of context paraphrasing here. He compared the Ray tracing performance specifically to settings he has seen in the pc space when using a 2060 super. That's actually super impressive for a GPU the size if the one found in a PS5.
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Kenpachii
Member
Sonygaf: DF why do you not cover PS5
DF: got paid to do other shit
Sonygaf: OMG u shill if you don't report on PS5
DF: ok, box seems worse engineered then xbox
Sonygaf: OMG BIASED REVIEW, FU DF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
DF:
That's sony fanboys for you.
FrankWza
Member
I don’t see that as paraphrasing. It’s an example of a time when they had experience with a pc product and how it may compare to a console gpu and they relayed that experience to readers to help them understand what that could mean for the PS5 GPU..Based on that, wouldn’t it stand to reason that they could have discussed liquid metal in their experience with pc and how it may benefit or not benefit the PS5 using it? Or the heat sink and it’s size?
Again, I’ve stated this many times, they didn’t have to say anything. But the uninteresting comment is a head scratcher. It has 7m views. There’s a ton of posts claiming that Sonyfans Believe that df is biased or even posts saying Sony is hiding something by not sending them a system. The flip side is, we now know that Sony spent more on their SSD than was already obvious by including dram on their drive and Microsoft did not. Maybe Msoft didn’t want anyone to know that and df didn’t want to say that so that’s why they didn’t comment on the PS5 teardown? Can I make that assumption?
Lethal01
Member
Why would this makes me feel better?
It's just weird that someone whos so interested in console hardware would call seeing the new tech uninteresting.
It's like if a Zelda fan called seeing the first gameplay of BoTW2 uninteresting.
I'd say the same thing if they called an Xbox teardown uninteresting.
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TLZ
Banned
Nah. That's reserved for Nintendo fans
Actually I can agree on that. Does seem a poor choice of words by him. I won’t fault DF for not making a video about it faster though.
NullZ3r0
Banned
Dear Digital Foundry,
Not that we care, because you're shills for PC and Xbox, but we think you should cover the PS5 teardown. Yes, we need you to ignore the actual hardware that you have, stop any work on original content, and give us your second-hand report on a video of the tear down. No, the 5,000 other YouTube impressions aren't enough. We need DF to do another one.
P.S. If you give Sony anything less than a verbal blowjob, we'll accuse you of being biased MS shills like we already do.
Sincerely yours,
Sony GAF
Not that we care, because you're shills for PC and Xbox, but we think you should cover the PS5 teardown. Yes, we need you to ignore the actual hardware that you have, stop any work on original content, and give us your second-hand report on a video of the tear down. No, the 5,000 other YouTube impressions aren't enough. We need DF to do another one.
P.S. If you give Sony anything less than a verbal blowjob, we'll accuse you of being biased MS shills like we already do.
Sincerely yours,
Sony GAF
Dolomite
Member
From a technical standpoint how do you expect DF to teardown (with the same attention to detail that they offered the XSX) the PS5 without a physical SKU? MS got thier consoles out to DF half a yr ago. They gave youtube stars I've never heard of Series consoles for impressions. It's not hard to see why tech experts would prioritize thier research, working with what they have.
EliTheIceMan
Member
DF is the Zune of tech channels/blog old and outdated like their opinionsPS5 teardown happened for some days already and DF did nothing to cover the Sony event.
While they keep doing videos about old games nobody cares.
When asked why the reply:
Blue Spring
Read my tears about xbox here --->
They could never do a teardown of the PS5 for all I care.
Hell, I would support them to become a xbox dedicated channel.
Blue Spring
Read my tears about xbox here --->
Care to give actual quotes of this?
I remember
Bo_Hazem
made a thread that they were full of shit about the supposed 1440p resolution.
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NoMoChokeSJ
Banned
Why would they do a video teardown of a video teardown? Seems like it makes sense that they would wait until they have the console in hand instead of trying to speculating off of a video. Complaint seems is just whining.
Aguero9320
Member
There’s a difference between there being interest in a video, and the content itself being interesting.
Which I really don’t think it was. Despite the usual fanboy hyperbole there was nothing innovative or interesting in the design, and therefore I would concur that the video itself is actually ‘uninteresting’ in terms of further discussion. To quote Trump, it very much is what it is...
Big fan, big heat sink, big whoop. Slightly different thermal paste solution - be still my beating heart. The sides come off! Again, hardly DF fare. Don’t even try and get me excited about the fucking stand.
I have this thing on order and am looking forward to it, but the most interesting thing for me are actually big negatives - the size of the fucking thing, and the inelegant storage expansion solution.
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MarkMe2525
Member
Sounds like more of a conspiracy theory than an assumption. I'm not trying to down you by saying that as it's easy to listen to YouTubers and be lead down that path, but think of how many assumptions one has to make to get to that conclusion.
1. DF are secretly making sponsored content without disclosing which is illegal and against YouTube ToS.
2.MS and DF would have to make the terrible assumption that if DF doesn't point something negative out, no one else would.
3.That DF isn't going to make a PS5 breakdown video when they finally get to touch one. That's what your first paragraph implies. Is it not more likely as well that they are saving their opinions for when they actually are allowed to have a PS5 and they create their own video, which they will make money off of.
Also, DF hasn't made an official statement on the video as you stated. An employee on his free time answered a question that someone asked. He added his personal take on the "showmanship" and info provided that wasn't known previously in regards to Sony's video.
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Blond
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Can I ask you why with all these comparisons they still sometimes prefer the PS4 version’s of some games even though the X1X version looked better?
I wouldn’t be shocked in the slightest if DF ends up saying fuck all forums and social media period and just pull a redlettermedia and have people absorb their content on their terms because it’s obvious it’s better to just take feedback and build content that way than interacting with the audience directly.
Blue Spring
Read my tears about xbox here --->
Of course they are gonna do a video about it. Thats not really the point of this thread.
The point is a) Alex is a cunt b) DF as a whole are salty because they did not get a PS5.
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Blue Spring
Read my tears about xbox here --->
Cause he is consistent.
So? Where are the quotes of the people calling them shills today and larping up to them 2 weeks ago?
Majima Everywhere System
Member
I didnt watch the tear down. I started watching all the new Digital Foundary videos in the last month. I'm Inclinded to agree. If it's not a game I dont give a shit. I like game footage, and I like the sprinkle of jibberish.
FrankWza
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You don’t need to. They do. Because it’s the teardown of the successor of the second highest selling console of all time. You’re a guy on a message board. They’re there to find these things interesting. Saying it’s not is ridiculous.
that was my point. The main topic was thatit shouldn’t be referred to as uninteresting when it very clearly is. Yet many people took exception to that part being called out and began questioning if it was more than that with their own ridiculous conspiracy theories.
Dolomite
Member
Threads not locked my guy, peruse at your earliest convenience chief. Also nowhere in my OP did I quote any one user, because the statement implies the sentiment found on GAF any time DF gives Sony some shine. Not thier fault they didn't have a console to physically tear down themselves. Hell, I wouldn't give a second hand analysis either
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JerryinSoCal
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Didn't Sony talk about the SSD having DRAM when they did their deep dive?
Aguero9320
Member
They don’t have or need to do anything. Manufacturing interest in something is wasting everyone’s time - if there is nothing interesting to say, say nothing.
There’s nothing wrong with the PS5 per se, there’s just nothing interesting to analyse or say about that video. Like I said, it is what it is...
timmyp53
Member
There isn't anything interesting here at all. Some guy on a forum got a reply on another forum and weird people here are trying to find something to talk about.
hey look at this guy.. lets let him represent every fan of said console and let the other guy represent the whole of DF.
It's just a constant cycle of embarrassment here in this forum.
Dolomite
Member
Didn't think this was news either. Must have be recent highlighting
BusierDonkey
Member
Why do people want to watch DF video of them watching a different video of a guy taking apart a console while discussing what he's taking apart? The guy is already commenting, he's saying what he's taking apart. Do you guys just want a dubbed version of the video?
People claim to want speculation on what all the parts making up the console are from DF while at the same time they continue to berate them at every turn. It's very hard to believe that those same people will have an unbiased view of DF's opinion of the hardware unless it's outright glowing praise. There's already lots of speculation about the teardown, it's super easy to find too. What they seek is confirmation of the speculation that matches their personal preferences from DF. If DF don't offer that praise they will continue to be panned. If DF do they will still be panned because at one time DF critiqued something they liked, so why even bother?
People claim to want speculation on what all the parts making up the console are from DF while at the same time they continue to berate them at every turn. It's very hard to believe that those same people will have an unbiased view of DF's opinion of the hardware unless it's outright glowing praise. There's already lots of speculation about the teardown, it's super easy to find too. What they seek is confirmation of the speculation that matches their personal preferences from DF. If DF don't offer that praise they will continue to be panned. If DF do they will still be panned because at one time DF critiqued something they liked, so why even bother?
Blue Spring
Read my tears about xbox here --->
You were just very specific so I thought you could actually provide some examples. If you had I would have made fun of them with you.
But I guess I was wrong and you simply made something up to shitpost about.
And you dont have to think about the possibility of a second hand analysis either, because they will do a video about the official Sony made PS5 tear down 100%.
FrankWza
Member
youre not comprehending. I didn’t say they need to make a video. I said the opposite.But they do need to find that teardown interesting. Saying it’s not interesting is the part that is odd for a site like theirs.
Anchovie123
Member
(Timestamped) Someone donates and asks if texture popin will improve on Series X and of course Alex immediately shoots it down.
Even though this video by Rich (timestamped) literally proves that an SSD has an effect on textures.
FrankWza
Member
Aguero9320
Member
You’re right, I didn’t get that was what you are saying... Still disagree though - and I’m not at all surprised they didn’t find anything of interest in it. I’m sure when they get a PS5 themselves they’ll be massively interested, but watching someone else take that apart? There’s not really anything surprising enough to talk about, or for them to add of substance...
MarkMe2525
Member
Don't crawfish, your point was also that DF and MS conspiried to hide something (you dedicated a paragraph to it). Also, It was a big yawn man. It's not a slight against Sony, they just missed an opportunity for the first glimpse into the guts of a PS5 to be exciting.
I don't think I'm alone in the fact that I scrubbed though most of the presentation to get to the meat of the video. Once there, the only new info I got was the memory chip split and they are using a more expensive "thermal paste" solution. These topics will be covered in a DF video once they can do their own teardown. I bet it will be a lot more "interesting" as well.
FrankWza
Member
Again, that’s for you. They should find a lot of what was revealed to be interesting though. The dram speculation and liquid metal alone.
It was the LAST sentence of that paragraph. The rest was what was being said here for 10 pages. Maybe read it again. It’s interesting
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it was a big yawn and yet you took the time to comment on it for free. They had the PS5 teardown to comment on and they didn’t and called it uninteresting and that’s what they’re paid to do! Hahahaha
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supernova8
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I kinda agree with the "uninteresting" part of it. Come on it was just some Japanese dude in a room, with no background music, no expression on his face whatsoever just taking apart the console as if he was doing some sort of reverse tea ceremony. What are they really going to say in a reaction video that wasn't already explained by that dude anyway?
I'm not really that interested in XSX but even I would rather see a video of them doing their own tear down of a machine rather than a lame "reaction video" to someone else's video.
I'm not really that interested in XSX but even I would rather see a video of them doing their own tear down of a machine rather than a lame "reaction video" to someone else's video.
Aguero9320
Member
Liquid metal is not new or interesting to anyone. It won't make any difference to the console. If it helps to keep it quiet that's good, but quiet should be expected. Don't think DRAM was mentioned in the Sony video was it? I have no doubt it will be covered if it has any effect (and is actually confirmed, which I haven't seen?), but how can they know? Sony hasn't sent anyone anything to analyse, so DF are quite right to wait until they have something substantive to add.
Bowing out here, as I am aware I am contributing to the continuation of this paranoid, pointless and perplexing thread.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Don’t want a PS3 repeat , i remember in the build up to launch their arrogance was repulsive, some of the utter shite Phil Harrison in particular said at the time was farcical.
In a ideal situation PS5, XSX/S and Switch bring it consistently , we all benefit, healthy competition etc.
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Concern
Member
Now Microsoft pays df to call Sony's teardown uninteresting? Lol you guys need to go play a game or something. Those tinfoil hats are a bit too tight.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
I went looking for a DF video about the teardown and was surprised there wasn't one. NX Gamer proved that there was plenty to say about video.
FrankWza
Member
no. For 10 pages, the narrative that was being pushed was that Sony was not sending df a console because they didn’t want them to reveal something bad about the system and other conspiracy theories. If you actually READ what i said and asked, was if I made THAT assumption that I brought up would it be ok. All I have said over and over is that they are ridiculous for saying it is uninteresting. It’s their job to find this stuff interesting.
edit: I don’t believe there to be any conspiracy whatsoever, On either side with df. But taking exception with the uninteresting statement is a far cry from being demanding that they cover it.
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Neo_game
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Companies do provide review unit to journalist to review their product. I am sure they will have lots of PS5 content, sooner or later. For some reason they do not get PS5 from Sony or Eurogamer which would be weird. They would buy one just to have more content on their channel I am pretty sure.
MarkMe2525
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I cannot help that they hurt your feelings.
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freefornow
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Dolomite
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What's this got to do with the lack of PS5 tear down
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