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[Explosive Zombie]

It's pretty funny to see so many Sony fans asking this guy to reconsider his decision to get an XSX. You guys get a commission if someone buys an PS5 over an Xbox? Why do you even care?

BC is a perfect reason to buy an XSX. MS is best at respecting a gamers past gaming purchases. It's another fantastic pro-consumer feature.

I assumed part of the reason the thread was made was so we could discuss it not just cheer him on for his winning decision. Personally I wasn't trying to convince him otherwise I was just giving my own opinion on it. And I pretty much sit by that opinion that backwards compatibility is never the reason I would buy a console. That said I would love that to be a feature on a console if all things were equal then backwards compatibility would absolutely be an edge heck they wouldn't even have to be equal for me the series actually just needs a game as enticing as demon souls is to me. And in 2021 it'll need something as enticing as the new God of war for instance. But that's me.

 

[StateofMajora]

Same here, I am amassing a shit ton of Xbox games for this reason.

 

[teezzy]

I really care about backwards compatibility. It's about the only aspect of my PS4 experience that I felt was lacking. PS Now is... a joke. The monthly fee is outrageous and the catalog of games is piss poor.

The more I've been reading about b/c support on Xbox, the more I've been thinking about picking up the X when it becomes available again. I was going to go PC this gen. That was until I had a look at graphics card prices. Yikes.

You cant go wrong with PC or Xbox. I love the idea that I can buy original xbox games or 360 games and get them running on a Series x . That's how gaming should be. Play em with an xbox one controller just to drive the point further home

You're gonna get people laughing at your reasoning but it's a very important consideration for me also

 

[Explosive Zombie]

You cant go wrong with PC or Xbox. I love the idea that I can buy original xbox games or 360 games and get them running on a Series x . That's how gaming should be. Play em with an xbox one controller just to drive the point further home

You're gonna get people laughing at your reasoning but it's a very important consideration for me also

I definitely do want gaming to reach a point where there's a preservation of the art form that we get with movies. I really love getting the 4k and blu-ray special editions of old horror movies they make it's a shame there isn't that much reverence for old video games.

 

[Riven326]

You cant go wrong with PC or Xbox. I love the idea that I can buy original xbox games or 360 games and get them running on a Series x . That's how gaming should be. Play em with an xbox one controller just to drive the point further home

You're gonna get people laughing at your reasoning but it's a very important consideration for me also

I think the PlayStation exclusives will force me to pick up a PS5 at some point. I tend to do that, but the console I buy at the beginning of the new generation almost always ends up being my main.

This is the first time I'm just looking at these machines in a practical manner. Power is power. They're basically going to do the same thing. So then it comes down to system features that I like. BC, and the quality of it (resolution upgrades, frame rate, etc.), is really what sets the two machines apart, in my opinion.

 

[teezzy]

I definitely do want gaming to reach a point where there's a preservation of the art form that we get with movies. I really love getting the 4k and blu-ray special editions of old horror movies they make it's a shame there isn't that much reverence for old video games.

Its honestly super important to me for whatever reason and pc emulation is awesome for that reason. I like where xbox's heads are at. If they can keep that energy going, ill remain loyal for all my living room local multiplayer gaming needs.

 

[Riven326]

I definitely do want gaming to reach a point where there's a preservation of the art form that we get with movies. I really love getting the 4k and blu-ray special editions of old horror movies they make it's a shame there isn't that much reverence for old video games.

It already exists on the PC. That was my original plan. To build a 4k gaming PC that could do everything. But it's just too expensive. Still, that is the sort of experience I would like to see brought to all consoles. Your games will age, you will buy a new tv, but you can still enjoy those old games in high resolution, pristine detail, with improved frame rates.

 

[Flashy Wizard]

Congrats OP on your decision. We’re gamers and whether you choose to go with PlayStation and/or Xbox, this generation will be an amazing one!! On a side note, I wouldn’t discredit Sony as of yet. They’ve teamed with Microsoft to further expand their b/c initiative on the Azure platform and I truly believe there’s some things they’re saving to announce later. Don’t count them out yet on that front.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

It already exists on the PC. That was my original plan. To build a 4k gaming PC that could do everything. But it's just too expensive. Still, that is the sort of experience I would like to see brought to all consoles. Your games will age, you will buy a new tv, but you can still enjoy those old games in high resolution, pristine detail, with improved frame rates.

Yeah I've got a thousand games on PC. And that's just the ones I bought never mind the stuff that I can emulate. It's great playing old arcade games and stuff sometimes.

 

[Shakka43]

I really care about backwards compatibility. It's about the only aspect of my PS4 experience that I felt was lacking. PS Now is... a joke. The monthly fee is outrageous and the catalog of games is piss poor.

The more I've been reading about b/c support on Xbox, the more I've been thinking about picking up the X when it becomes available again. I was going to go PC this gen. That was until I had a look at graphics card prices. Yikes.

You care about BC but will get a console where you won't be able to play a single one of your already bought PS4 games, nice logic...

 

[Explosive Zombie]

You care about BC but will get a console where you won't be able to play a single one of your already bought PS4 games, nice logic...

Assuming he still owns his PS4 I think his logic is okay.

 

[DarkMage619]

I assumed part of the reason the thread was made was so we could discuss it not just cheer him on for his winning decision. Personally I wasn't trying to convince him otherwise I was just giving my own opinion on it. And I pretty much sit by that opinion that backwards compatibility is never the reason I would buy a console. That said I would love that to be a feature on a console if all things were equal then backwards compatibility would absolutely be an edge heck they wouldn't even have to be equal for me the series actually just needs a game as enticing as demon souls is to me. And in 2021 it'll need something as enticing as the new God of war for instance. But that's me.

Did you read his post? He didn't like the b/c options on PlayStation and video cards are too expensive. Demons Souls isn't going to answer that desire. I guess some Sony people really can't imagine that anyone else out there wouldn't want a Playstation. The beautiful thing is that no matter how many people buy an Xbox it won't affect your enjoyment of any Sony products. It's OK for people to like different things than the masses.

 

[ReBurn]

Backward compatibility is awesome and I love to see Microsoft and Sony taking it seriously now. But with a One X and my recently acquired PS4 Pro there's no rush because they are good enough for what's available right now. I'll pick up a Series X when there's a new Forza Horizon or sooner if it turns out that it's the better multiplat machine. But I probably wouldn't invest in it just to play the games I can already play right now.

 

[Balducci30]

Not the reason I bought it, but definitely makes me feel better about the purchase

 

[Riven326]

You care about BC but will get a console where you won't be able to play a single one of your already bought PS4 games, nice logic...

Well if I want to play any PS4 games, I'll use the PS4. It isn't going anywhere. It becomes an issue when I want to play ps1, ps2, or ps3 games. As opposed to the Series X, which will let me play original Xbox, 360, and Xbox One titles and they're enhanced, not just emulated.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Backward compatibility is awesome and I love to see Microsoft and Sony taking it seriously now. But with a One X and my recently acquired PS4 Pro there's no rush because they are good enough for what's available right now. I'll pick up a Series X when there's a new Forza Horizon or sooner if it turns out that it's the better multiplat machine. But I probably wouldn't invest in it just to play the games I can already play right now.

If it's okay for people to feel differently than why are you so upset about this? I never said I was trying to convince him in fact I told you I wasn't trying to convince him I'm just giving my own feelings on it. It's what normal people do on a discussion forum.

sorry I hit the reply button on the wrong post it should be obvious who I meant to reply to.

 

[FrankWza]

I really care about backwards compatibility. It's about the only aspect of my PS4 experience that I felt was lacking. PS Now is... a joke. The monthly fee is outrageous and the catalog of games is piss poor.

The more I've been reading about b/c support on Xbox, the more I've been thinking about picking up the X when it becomes available again. I was going to go PC this gen. That was until I had a look at graphics card prices. Yikes.

wouldnt a series s be your best bet? It’s a lot cheaper and can play all the bc stuff x can, no?

 

[kyoji]

LMAO. You've missed the entire point of the new consoles enhancing the old games - better fps, resolution, faster loading.

so drop 500 for enhanced games or 70 for built from the ground up remakes that people really want but apparently on neogaf is overrated and a bad practice...

 

[Explosive Zombie]

wouldnt a series s be your best bet? It’s a lot cheaper and can play all the bc stuff x can, no?

The x actually gets better performance out of backwards compatible games

 

[Riven326]

wouldnt a series s be your best bet? It’s a lot cheaper and can play all the bc stuff x can, no?

Yes, but I want a machine that can play the games in 4k. That's what my tv supports.

 

[FrankWza]

The x actually gets better performance out of backwards compatible games

Is that right? Yikes...that’s rough

Yes, but I want a machine that can play the games in 4k. That's what my tv supports.

makes sense. I was going by your op. Looks like series s backward compatibility isn’t as good anyway.

 

[Hawk269]

I am sure it was mentioned (I did not read the whole thread) but one of the big advantages of the way MS has done BC is that on select titles for the Xbox 360 and OG Xbox is the improved performance/resolution on select games at no additional cost. For games like Gears 2, Gears 3 and many others on Xbox One X the games are outputting at 4k Native which makes them pretty amazing looking. So it is not just the games running in BC mode, but some games running BC and w/enhancements.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

I had well over $150 of digital PS1 games on my PS3, Sony really pissed me off by not letting me carry those purchases over to the PS4.

 

[CatLady]

Where are the Sony fanboys? Are you all busy playing games instead of creating threads to tell everyone that you're getting a PS5???

I've only seen Nintendo and Xbox shill threads.

Where are the PlayStation shill threads??

They're all in this thread trying to sell OP a PS5.

 

[93xfan]

It's another episode of "dude check out my thoughts on next-gen that need a separate thread instead of using the next-gen thread because I have the same thing to say as the two hundred guys before me lmao but seriously you know what you should roll with an Xbox and not with CorporateStation 5 trust me"

Go cry about your systems lack of good BC elsewhere. Funny I’ve never seen you complain about pro PS5 threads.

 

[93xfan]

I’m with you OP!

Playing games such as:

Perfect Dark (n64 remaster)
SSX3
Beyond Good and Evil
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Ninja Gaiden Black
Mirror’s Edge

brings a smile to my face. Game preservation is so important to me. It was a huge factor in me wanting a PS3.

Beyond that, Halo MCC has become my most played multiplayer game this gen. Endless amounts of fun there.

 

[bender]

It's where I've spent the most time with my One X. So many great titles: Forza Horizon, MGS 2-3-Peace Walker, Ninja Gaiden, SSX3, Burnout 3, Panzer Dragon Orta, Lost Odyssey, Azura's Wrath, Mercenaries, Child of Eden, Daytona USA, N+, Dead Space, Deadly Premonition (still the best console version), EDF2017, Morrowind, Soul Calibur, and mother fucking Virtua Fighter 5.

 

[THE DUCK]

I think the thing that a lot of people miss in this equation, is that's it's not just that MS has brought forward backwards compatibility, it's also:
- Reaches back multiple generations
- Not only plays the older games, but enhances a lot of them in a very large way, making them even more playable than the original titles
- Automatic games saves brought forward at no extra cost

 

[evanft]

Buying a Series X because it can play a select list of OGX and 360 games that are already compatible with the Xbox One X seems like a pretty smooth-brained move.

 

[Clarissa]

Not gonna lie. As a huge fighting game fan, if Tekken 7, Street Fighter 5, SoulCalibur 6 and Granblue Fantasy Versus doesn't come with a 4k resolution max textures enhancements on the PS5, I'd be upset. And I know Dead Or Alive 6 has enhancements on the Series X.

And playing your backlog at 4k 60 fps is wonderful. Xbox Team did good!

 

[THE DUCK]

Buying a Series X because it can play a select list of OGX and 360 games that are already compatible with the Xbox One X seems like a pretty smooth-brained move.

Your assuming that:

A) buyers don't have other reasons to buy it
B) all buyers had an xbox one x
C) all buyers even had an xbox one

Also your idea of "select list" must be pretty broad, almost all the best games at this point
are compatible.

 

[bender]

Also your idea of "select list" must be pretty broad, almost all the best games at this point
are compatible.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

They're all in this thread trying to sell OP a PS5.

Even my friend who is a Nintendo fanboy who hates Sony is here

 

[Maybe It's Medicine?]

I'm sure there are quite a few folks in this thread who consider a 70 dollar remake of a ps3 game a system seller. The same people who want to downplay Xbox's great backwards compatibility support no doubt. I wonder why.

 

[FritzJ92]

Buying a Series X because it can play a select list of OGX and 360 games that are already compatible with the Xbox One X seems like a pretty smooth-brained move.

Your Logic, Buying a PS5 because it can play a select list of 3 PS5 games, and everything else is compatible with PS4 seems like a smooth-brained move. But w/e.

 

[Redlight]

I have Xbox and ps4, and I am ditching xbox for ps5 for now,

I did not create a thread about it lol.

You don't need to create a thread, your 'contributions' are smeared all over everybody else's.

 

[Kagey K]

Buying a Series X because it can play a select list of OGX and 360 games that are already compatible with the Xbox One X seems like a pretty smooth-brained move.

Yeah he should probably just wait for the remakes and pay 20-70 per game instead of enjoying the ones he already owns with enhancements the Xbox one X doesn’t do.

Good thing you were here to set him straight.

 

[odhiex]

There are always three different crowds from what I understand:

1. BC is the most important feature, to be able to play old games / access of old catalogue is essential.

2. BC is a nice feature, but not a deal breaker.

3. Don't care about BC at all.

I think they are pretty valid reasons.

 

[CrysisFreak]

Go cry about your systems lack of good BC elsewhere. Funny I’ve never seen you complain about pro PS5 threads.

We got very similar BC except for one specific generation for legitimate reasons, plus actual new games unlike you so keep coping and don't forget to dilate.

 

[Self]

There are always three different crowds from what I understand:

1. BC is the most important feature, to be able to play old games / access of old catalogue is essential.

2. BC is a nice feature, but not a deal breaker.

3. Don't care about BC at all.

I think they are pretty valid reasons.

Very valid reasons indeed. I guess the hardcore BC crowd moved to PC anyways. It offers emulation on top.

 

[teezzy]

If playing old games is so important, why do you need a next gen console? Buy a one x or one s.

Because I want one box that plays it all, and plays them even better than a One X

I currently have an original Xbox, 360, and a One S hooked up in my home.

Some games run like ass on One S, I want better fps.

 

[BigLee74]

We got very similar BC except for one specific generation for legitimate reasons, plus actual new games unlike you so keep coping and don't forget to dilate.

Unfortunately for PS fans, that missing generation is huge with loads of great games!

 

[Kagey K]

We got very similar BC except for one specific generation for legitimate reasons, plus actual new games unlike you so keep coping and don't forget to dilate.

Is it that similar? Really?

I think the verdict is still out on that. I haven’t seen them mention stuff like reasmpling games to 4K or adding 16x filtering or auto HDR, or doubling frame rates with no developer input.

Im going to need to see proof of this before I buy into, they are the same.

 

[teezzy]

Lol ps5 cant even play Blinx

 

[Wizz-Art]

Clever move OP. Plenty of people around me are doing the same thing! Xbox just offers more value.

 

[farmerboy]

Are there any stats on how much BC is actually used? I'd guess that previous gen games would be played, but prior to that? Minuscule use at best.

Anyway, always thought that BC was a handy, but ultimately, unnecessary feature.

 

[DavidGzz]

You gotta love how PS fans "know" that PS5 will outsell XSX 3 to 1 but they have to enter these threads and post away downplaying the reasons why someone would want an Xbox. I agree, OP. I was actually set on a PC but the value XSX provides for $500 is crazy so I'm going with one for now. My current 1660ti rig will do for all the early access and other Steam Indy games until I save up enough to get another rig in 2022 or so. I'm getting both consoles to cover my bases. Great times ahead!

 

[Kagey K]

Are there any stats on how much BC is actually used? I'd guess that previous gen games would be played, but prior to that? Minuscule use at best.

Anyway, always thought that BC was a handy, but ultimately, unnecessary feature.

This is stuff that is easily googleable if you actually wanted to know the answer.

What else are people going to play when they are done Dark Souls or Gears Tactics?

Or are they just going to stare at the wall waiting for a new game?

 

[turtlepowa]

Are there any stats on how much BC is actually used? I'd guess that previous gen games would be played, but prior to that? Minuscule use at best.

Anyway, always thought that BC was a handy, but ultimately, unnecessary feature.

At least one stat from 2018:

Xbox One Backwards Compatibility Logs Over 1 Billion Hours Of Playtime

Microsoft reveals that the Xbox One Backwards Compatibility library has now logged 1 billion hours of playtime from Xbox One users.

screenrant.com

I don't know if that is much, but it sounds much to me. I play a lot of BC games myself.

 

[BigLee74]

Well BC is important to me. Genuinely reckon at least 1/4 of my gaming time has been replaying Xbox 360 games this gen.

All COD campaigns, Alan Wake, Mass Effect, Dead Space, Crackdown, Fallout 3, Gears, RDR, Tomb Raiders, Trials, Vanquish and loads more.

It's one of the reasons I think I will end up getting a PS5 at some point in the future; so I can try all these PS4/PS5 exclusives that folk rave on about. But this will only happen when they redesign how that thing looks (so here's hoping for a more traditional slim)!