thelastword
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Also, my other observation is that PS runs a touch better with no tearing. Definitely tearing on XBOX in some scenes...
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Assassin's Creed Valhalla: PS5 vs Xbox Series X Graphics Comparison
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StrongGuy
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There are already Xbox fans here and on the other site panicking. Just let it go, people. PS5 might have a lower theoretical computer power than the XSX, but its architecture is superior to XSX. PS5 will run games better, because its real-world compute power is higher than XSX. This is PS3 vs 360 all over again except in reverse.
Just accept it.
Just accept it.
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Andodalf
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K. Gunna go play some 120 FPS rocket league now
Knitted Knight
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No the compute isn't higher than Xbox Series X but it's data management is a lot better
M_A_C
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Except I don’t think there‘s any hidden depth for first parties to explore like PS3.
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StrongGuy
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It's actually scary how similar the XSX architecture is to the PS3 such as the split ram configuration with different bandwidths.
I view XSX as a theoretical 12 TF console and a 8 TF real-world console due to poor architecture.
The PS5 is a theoretical 10 TF console and a 9 TF real-world console.
9 > 8
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JareBear: Remastered
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How is this guy the only one on Earth with PS5 footage so far?
The clip with missing water physics on XsX is somewhat concerning, hopefully a glitch that was addressed. Otherwise they seem to look very similar.
Man, this is some FUNKY spin.
That “poor architecture” seems to be kicking major ass so far in all around functionality.
The clip with missing water physics on XsX is somewhat concerning, hopefully a glitch that was addressed. Otherwise they seem to look very similar.
Man, this is some FUNKY spin.
That “poor architecture” seems to be kicking major ass so far in all around functionality.
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StrongGuy
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I am only stating what I see in the comparison videos. XSX seems like a PS3 instead of a PS4.
JareBear: Remastered
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Ok, guy.
Knitted Knight
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Welcome back. And good question.
StrongGuy
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If you do not see the resemblance, I do not know what more to say.
XSX and PS3 both touted superior theoretical performance, but both have poor actual performance.
Andodalf
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These poor guys only have 24 hours left to shitpost, and they're trying to get their 13TF 24 GB HBM2 worth
Yams
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That's a lot to glean from some missing waves.
If a company is going to scale back graphics to make up performance, it would be somewhere else.
StrongGuy
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What about better textures on the PS5 version?
Not how things work PS5 has a triangle output advantage, internal cache bandwidth advantage , rasterizing advantage , I/O advantage & maybe a memory advantage because of the way Xbox Series X memory is setup.
StrongGuy
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Yes, so the XSX operates like an 8TF console.
plasmawave
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Load time comparison.
Series X
PS5
Series X
PS5
Yams
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When we see 4k footage side by side at the same time of day I'd be happy to talk about it.
3liteDragon
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I mean that’s probably the best way to show it off as a feature as it’s more noticeable, but I think we’ll see different implementations like GI and shadows close to mid-gen.
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basic_element
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Just watched the video. For some reason the Xbox version looks a little better to me. Can’t point my finger to what it is. It’s like the extra 2 tflops is invading my brain.
StrongGuy
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If you think that difference was due solely to time of day, I do not think you can be convinced. The texture quality on the XSX was noticeably worse.
SMH no stop using one number when there is a lot more to console specs than just the compute.
That blast processing tho
Pimpbaa
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Unless LFC is used, then it can go below 40fps (by frame doubling) and still work . Although it's up to the console or gpu to implement that.
Yams
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Screenshot some examples. I paused the footage at a number of points and looked at both and couldn't tell.
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bitbydeath
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See those slightly weaker textures on XSX don't mean much to me but 18secs vs 6secs, now that is impressive.
StrongGuy
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I am trying to standardize to 1 metric that people can understand. I think we can also use DBZ powerlevels if you wish.
XSX is like Namek Frieza while PS5 is Namek SS Goku. PS5 is slightly stronger than XSX.
Just knowing that you are playing the inferior version would ruined most people’s enjoyment.
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bitbydeath
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StrongGuy
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Yes, but atm, a more powerful PC would be far more expensive than $500. The issue comes when 2 products are similarly priced but one is better than the other.
Romulus
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I'll wait for DF
Yoboman
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I wouldn't call anything while we are looking at a 1080p source. Or has something newer come out?
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Welcome back Chunk, where have you been? Sorry you had to come back to this dump of a thread though.
StrongGuy
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Resolution is the only thing that is not confirmed. I am only speculating that PS5's resolution is higher than XSX's version, because it is performing better while having higher asset quality. No developer would ding resolution to increase other effects.
The others are confirmed regardless of 1080p output on youtube.
Sounds like the smart thing to do
MasterCornholio
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I don't even know why they left the running load sequence in the Xbox version. It would have been better without it and just used a black screen instead.
Romulus
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PS4 Pro had times were it outperformed X1X, especially in the beginning. But we all know how that turned out. It ended up being a big difference with X in the lead 90% of the time.
MasterCornholio
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You believe there's a massive difference between the two like Pro and X?
StrongGuy
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XSX has a bottlenecked design due to poor I/O and dual bandwidth architecture. This will not be PS4 Pro vs XOX. This will be PS3 vs 360 in reverse except for the exclusive advantage; PS5 will also have the exclusive advantage.
captainraincoat
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im having flashbacks of the 360 and ps3 days whenever a game came out
Counting those blades of grass....
Counting those blades of grass....
Romulus
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Huh? No. I'm just saying one is clearly more powerful. I just think it'll show slight differences.
StrongGuy
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More powerful with bottlenecked design = PS3 2.0
Romulus
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Dude, you're clearly dumb if you think the XSX is the second coming of PS3. haha
Do you have any actual benchmarks to show the bottlenecks? At least have 5-6 examples.
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StrongGuy
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Dual bandwidth is this gen's split RAM architecture in the PS3 generation. The lower bandwidth on XSX will bottleneck the entire console.
MasterCornholio
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Ok thanks for the clarification. I thought you meant that it's the same situation as Pro Vs X.
Romulus
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You're not a developer and have no idea how they'll use that. You honestly think MS didn't communicate with developers about split RAM before doing it? Or do you really think you're on to something? Come on.
Not to mention, even if it was bottleneck, and I highly doubt it is, that doesn't make it a PS3 2.0. PS3 had a shit GPU and a powerful CPU that was nearly impossible to use. Very, very different situation. XSX's CPU is not difficult to use and its GPU is far from shit. Actually it might be one of the best console GPUs at launch we've seen in decades.
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