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VGTech's COD Cold War 120FPS mode comparison
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DynamiteCop!
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No, I don't get bored of waiting. I have plenty of other things to bide my time. Life doesn't begin and end with an Xbox.
TrebleShot
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XSX certainly has higher numbered spec on paper in some areas.
But PS5 has been designed far better and customized with a clear vision beyond power.
MS did what was expected, throw out some high numbers and strong arm into next gen whereas Sony looked at what was available and customised it heavily to get more out of their machine where it was needed.
But PS5 has been designed far better and customized with a clear vision beyond power.
MS did what was expected, throw out some high numbers and strong arm into next gen whereas Sony looked at what was available and customised it heavily to get more out of their machine where it was needed.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
Did you stop reading half way down or something?
You need to come to terms with this, and hopefully very soon.
Neko Mimi Mode
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While I love this Cerny gif, there's nothing pretty cool about the PS5 performance in 120hz mode, it's more pretty bad.
I don't think anyone is waiting on tools, games seem to run just fine as is. This whole obsession with trying to be a tiny percentage better than the competition is weird IMO.
Rolla
Banned
Can someone explain how you can have screen tearing with VRR? Doesn't make sense.
Yoboman
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Things will only get worse on Xbox. As markets have solidifies and PS5 maintains status as the main development system for all multiplats - developers move into a PS5 centric development pipeline.
The features and benefits of PS5s hardware design like SSD speed and Geometry Engine will be exemplified and lower effort ports across a split Xbox userbase will become more evident. Except unlike on One X, Xbox simply won't have the power to brute force parity or superiority in results
The features and benefits of PS5s hardware design like SSD speed and Geometry Engine will be exemplified and lower effort ports across a split Xbox userbase will become more evident. Except unlike on One X, Xbox simply won't have the power to brute force parity or superiority in results
inflation
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Because the capture card doesn't support VRR.
onnextflix5
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Xbox fans please enough of excuses and bullshit just admit u were wrong all games going forward will be the same or a little better on ps5, i dont think that is a bad thing, now we can focus on the most important thing, games
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But why talk about it people actually playing the game won't have screen tearing?
For game like COD VRR, gsync, free sync whatever is a big part of the experience.
Mike Zhang
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It seems the power is really in the dream
Thirty7ven
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Heh, think you’re being too harsh here. Min it goes is 97 and averages 117, hits 8.33 94%, I mean... if you’re this demanding you have no business playing on consoles honestly. Better buy that high end PC.
6 months ago we didn’t even think 120fps would be this common. Now I’m over here thinking GT7 might have a 120fps mode.
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Neko Mimi Mode
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It's 91.9 lol, a 2% difference.
I don't think either company watches VGTech, to be honest.
If you mean us fanboys, no doubt Team Blue is happier.
Look, let's be honest here, the reason VRR isn't being talked about is because PS5 doesn't support it (yet) and XsX does.
MasterCornholio
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Basically not everyone has a screen that will support VRR. That's why they mention screen tearing.
DynamiteCop!
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I'm so glad all of this is being bookmarked. You're having my Series S moment right now, and like me you're doubling down on it.
You're going to get slayed, all of you haha. Have we learned nothing of hardware and software interaction over the last decade...
Thirty7ven
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sircaw
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Xbox8k 240 fps,
Ps5, 720p 30 fps.
Whatever happened to that fucking clown lol.
Probably in bed with his velocity architecture onesie on.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
DynamiteCop!
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Neko Mimi Mode
Member
It's more the screen tearing, it's quite high on both.
I don't think either console will feel good in 120hz mode, though I agree it's pleasantly surprising to see it becoming a thing.
I'm old enough to remember you saying the only game with a 120hz mode you wanted was Rocket League.
Makes sense when the Series X has a 2 tflops advantage
Seems less the GPU and more a CPU thing here. The GPU would be more taxed in the 60fps RT mode, but seems both are flawless there.
sircaw
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Parity is not good enough for you m8, you loose at parity, you need to be out in front, 51 frames more and double the res, remember.
best bet for you is hoping that xbox make a new model in a few years, Xbox xsrrx or something, and push the specs even higher.
inflation
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Because it's not a feature that every TV supports, and as a company, you can't expect all your potential customers have it. Some games can afford to go more "niche" but not COD. Thousands of people will play the game on an old screen and hope to have a decent experience.
Coolwhhip
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And you have learned nothing of Microsoft bsing you.
kretos
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DynamiteCop!
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It's not the need to be out in front, it's the fact that with a little bit of time it will be. This has me worried for you people because you're partially winning a few battles with some release titles and siking yourselves up prematurely believing that this is going to be the normal state of affairs.
You have all the information and forewarning in the world for why this is happening, you know it's temporary, I know it's temporary, every here knows it's temporary, but just to dig that knife into us a bit you're claiming some kind of victory which will inevitably fall flat and embarrass all of you.
Worst part is you'll be all confused and act like you didn't see it coming. I'll make sure to remind you, constantly.
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TVs or monitors that support 120fps tend to support VRR don't they?
A Most Virtuous Cat
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Armorian
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Forget about the framerate...what is this!? Look at the minigun on the Series S version...
If that isn't a bug....whoo boy...
PS3 model from Black Ops 1?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
VRR is a HDMI 2.1 feature available only in high end 2020 OLEDs. The only LED that supports HDMI 2.1 is the sony x900h and even it doesnt support VRR. i would imagine that only 1% of xbox series x owners have a vrr compatible tv.
It's excellent and a great thing for those xbox owners, but a vast vast majority of players are going to have issues with screen tearing.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Seem PS5 have the Dev kits earlier to the Devs advantage
I dunno, the XSX just seems like a big piece of shit system now all around.
Like, maybe it's the tools, maybe the games will come, maybe Halo Infinite will turn out amazing, but they're asking $500 for it right now.
inflation
Member
Maybe true for monitors, but lots of TVs support 120Hz in HDMI 2.0. Heck, even a HDMI 1.4 TV can do 120Hz at 1080p if the panel supports it.
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MasterCornholio
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From my experience with monitors its difficult to find one that supports 4K and 120FPs. The really fast ones tend to be 1440P at 144Hz. I went with a 4K 60Hz monitor.
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user friendly
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On the whole, this is still a bad first impression that could hurt them in the beginning and not matter by the time it’s sorted because most have chosen their preference. Not sure I agree with you that it will flip flop either but we’ll see.
DynamiteCop!
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The other funny thing about this is the resident Sony guys talking up that the amount of people with VRR capable displays is "miniscule" therefore it doesn't matter. Then on the same token they're taking these somewhat stable 120hz modes as a win for a TV technology they're basically saying no one has including them, and then for 2/3 of the titles tested ignoring that the Xbox is actually performing better in the respective 60hz 4K modes which is the overwhelming majority application for people here and at large, and will be for years.
I just find that a bit funny.
I just find that a bit funny.
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diffusionx
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If only Microsoft knew when the Xbox was coming out, they could have made sure their tools were working properly and devs had the resources they needed.
Coolwhhip
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The release of Xbox came as a huge surprise to MS.
DynamiteCop!
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Well they don't dictate the availability of the finalized hardware and therefore the development kits and corresponding tools which will work best for them. They were on AMD's time table, they waited longer than Sony for better hardware, Sony decided to modify what they could get at the time instead of waiting.
Arioco
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Samsung Qleds, for instance, have been supporting freesync and VRR since 2018. You don't need a TV with HDMI 2.1, some TVs support some of the features of HDMI 2.1 even though they just have HDMI 2.0. They just can't support 4K at 120 hz, but they can support VRR.