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[Insane Metal]

Ouch

 

[ethomaz]

Let me guess one console is doing better again even with suppose “weak” hardware?

 

[MarkMe2525]

Better have VRR on series X with these launch games.

Edit: After watching more of the video, Sony needs to patch this in sooner rather than later

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

From VGTechs video description:

The versions tested were 1.004.000 on PS5 and 1.0.3.0 on Xbox Series X|S (both were using the latest version at the time of testing). The 120fps mode was captured at 1080p.

Ray tracing was enabled in the 60fps mode tested on PS5 and Xbox Series X which uses a form of ray tracing for certain shadows.

Xbox Series S doesn't have a 120fps mode or a ray tracing mode. 0:00 - PS5 120fps and Xbox Series X 120fps 7:30 - PS5 RT, Xbox Series X RT and Xbox Series S

There was an issue on PS5 where the frame rate could randomly drop below 60fps during scenes that it previously ran at a solid 60fps. This issue wasn't encountered on Xbox Series X. https://bit.ly/2IHsqPN

Both PS5 and Series X in the ray tracing mode use a dynamic resolution with the highest resolution found being 3840x2160 and the lowest resolution found being 1920x1800. PS5 at 120fps, Series X at 120fps and Series S use a dynamic resolution with the highest resolution found being 2560x1440 and the lowest resolution found being 1280x1200. PS5 at 120fps, Series X at 120fps and Series S use a form of temporal reconstruction to reconstruct the horizontal resolution up to 2560 when the horizontal resolution is below this figure.

Stats: https://bit.ly/36CvNzp
Frames Pixel Counted: https://bit.ly/2H6cbek

Haven't finished watching the vid yet

 

[NeonGhost]

Let me guess one console is doing better again even with suppose “weak” hardware?

Both consoles aren’t running it well both have screen tearing ever where

 

[blastprocessor]

Surprise after surprise. These consoles are so close. Didn't watch after 7:30 though.

 

[funcojoe]

Regardless of the tech specs, the games pvp is horrendous. Campaign is actually really fun.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Are these the guys that release those charts?

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Are these the guys that release those charts?

Yes.

Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Comparison Stats

Sheet1 Platforms,PS5 120fps,Xbox Series X 120fps,PS5,Xbox Series X,Xbox Series S Frame Amounts Game Frames,52592,51658,27077,27080,26825 Video Frames,53930,53930,27082,27082,27082 Frame Tearing Statistics Total Torn Frames,1792,1933,6,2,428 Lowest Torn Line,164,145,319,223,321 Frame Height,1080,...

docs.google.com

 

[ethomaz]

Both consoles aren’t running it well both have screen tearing ever where

Screen tearing is way lower than AC with PS5 having a very little less than Xbox.
Framerate a bit better on PS5.
That is the 120fps mode.

60fps mode is nearly identical.
No tearing.
60fps 99.9% of time.

That is probably the best multiplatform perform in both until now... I’m really impressed.

 

[GHG]

Best place to play multiplatform games they said.

Plays best on they said.

The lesson is to shut your trap until you're actually delivering. Let the results speak for themselves.

 

[kretos]

missed all the fun in the other thread, hoping for some tasty meltdowns

 

[MCplayer]

I would be impressed at dynamic 4k, 60FPS and Ray tracing if tryhard studios did know how to make good modern looking visuals

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

The lesson is to shut your trap until you're actually delivering.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Yes.

Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Comparison Stats

Sheet1 Platforms,PS5 120fps,Xbox Series X 120fps,PS5,Xbox Series X,Xbox Series S Frame Amounts Game Frames,52592,51658,27077,27080,26825 Video Frames,53930,53930,27082,27082,27082 Frame Tearing Statistics Total Torn Frames,1792,1933,6,2,428 Lowest Torn Line,164,145,319,223,321 Frame Height,1080,...

docs.google.com

Thanks.

Holy crap they are extremely close.

 

[blastprocessor]

Yes.

Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Comparison Stats

Sheet1 Platforms,PS5 120fps,Xbox Series X 120fps,PS5,Xbox Series X,Xbox Series S Frame Amounts Game Frames,52592,51658,27077,27080,26825 Video Frames,53930,53930,27082,27082,27082 Frame Tearing Statistics Total Torn Frames,1792,1933,6,2,428 Lowest Torn Line,164,145,319,223,321 Frame Height,1080,...

docs.google.com

94% at 120fps for PS5 and 91% for Series X.

 

[ethomaz]

Thanks.

Holy crap they are extremely close.

I’m impressed with the performance in both.

60fps is flawless in both consoles.

120fps is just a bit better on PS5 but it is between 100-120fps most time... few times dropped below 100fps.

It is the best multiplatform job in terms of performance until now.

 

[GHG]

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Let me guess one console is doing better again even with suppose “weak” hardware?

Well, better is a big word... but considering the expectations, better than expected (or not as good as expected depending where you come from, I think it's more disappointment on one side that had realistic expectations and people who are just happy there will be much less warring/trolling for the next couple of years).

We know now, these consoles are practically equals, so if you shop for superficial specs you get 12tf on one side and no actual benefits for it (especially in 60fps mode). The differences are so small, there is no reason it would be an argument at this point, so let's argue for the catalogs:

1 - PS5 launches along many new games that show off its capabilities (cross gen sure, but at least there is something new)
2 - Sony has x number of studios with proven track records
3 - MS bought a million studios, but as a games publisher they seem like they break their studio's potential for whatever behind the scene reason... but given the large number there is a good chance that something good comes out just by chance

 

[ethomaz]

94% at 120fps for PS5 and 91% for Series X.

Yeap in 120fps mode Xbox is missing a bit of horse power.

60fps mode is flawless in both.

 

[timmyp53]

Seems like those DF surprises are dropping. Gonna be a long gen folks.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

missed all the fun in the other thread, hoping for some tasty meltdowns

Nope, they are not combative, my guess is they all are crying in their rooms shaking too much to type (or they are rather careful).

Phil should release a trailer for herllblade ii or Halo infinite.

 

[FlyyGOD]

Its a very impressive looking game on Series X. Just gorgeous on the lg cx.

 

[NeonGhost]

Seems like those DF surprised are dropping. Gonna be a long gen folks.

Only if you buy 1 console

 

[Zuzu]

I own a Series X, but Sony are wizards with the performance they’ve delivered with the PS5. I hope that one day they provide a deeper explanation of the engineering that went into this console so we can know how it delivers this performance.

 

[Potato Chip PRO]

I wanna see Series S performance

 

[DinoD]

I’m impressed with the performance in both.

60fps is flawless in both consoles.

120fps is just a bit better on PS5 but it is between 100-120fps most time... few times dropped below 100fps.

It is the best multiplatform job in terms of performance until now.

There's something going on with that CPU, I'm tellin' ya.

 

[RoadHazard]

Another case of the XSX struggling more than the PS5 to reach 120fps consistently. In the most demanding situations the PS5 is about 10% ahead in framerate (but also not maintaining 120).

The 60 fps mode seems pretty much flawless on both though (but the S is struggling), so for most people this won't actually matter.

But yeah, that 2TF advantage still not making itself known.

 

[Armorian]

Up to 20% better on PS5

 

[captainraincoat]

Would not read too much into any of it to be honest....first week of console launches always have issues from a system and software point of view
need to give it a few weeks for both to stabilise before anyone should be banging their drums

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Ouch

I'm confused OP, you only mention the 120FPS mode in the thread title, but half the video is comparing a different mode entirely? Did you stop the video at 7:30?

 

[Explosive Zombie]

I'm confused OP, you only mention the 120FPS mode in the thread title, but half the video is comparing a different mode entirely? Did you stop the video at 7:30?

There's only one mode worthy of discussion, what can be said about the 60FPS mode being the same on both?

 

[Craig of War]

Seem PS5 have the Dev kits earlier to the Devs advantage

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Starting to feel sorry for the Xbox at this rate...

Joking guys but wow, PS5 is offering clearly better performance in this game too.

 

[sircaw]

Ouch

All i wanted was parity or close to it, Mark Cerny you are a total bastard. Just stop it, please.

 

[GHG]

Seem PS5 have the Dev kits earlier to the Devs advantage

If they knew they were behind and weren't very well prepared then why all the chest beating? If anything that's a time when you should try to be humble.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Would not read too much into any of it to be honest....first week of console launches always have issues from a system and software point of view
need to give it a few weeks for both to stabilise before anyone should be banging their drums

Seems like there are smaller differences at the beginning of this gen than last gen. COD being the one that I remember the most due to "resolution gate".

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Would not read too much into any of it to be honest....first week of console launches always have issues from a system and software point of view
need to give it a few weeks for both to stabilise before anyone should be banging their drums

Nothing is going to happen in three weeks.

Cyberpunk 2077 face-offs will be here around then, showing PS5 with better performance again.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

I wanna see Series S performance

You dont buy the series s for performance

 

[Vick]

Up to 20% better on PS5

 

[Craig of War]

If they knew they were behind and weren't very well prepared then why all the chest beating? If anything that's a time when you should try to be humble.

Just posting what the guy from Digital Foundry said.

 

[DinoD]

Would not read too much into any of it to be honest....first week of console launches always have issues from a system and software point of view
need to give it a few weeks for both to stabilise before anyone should be banging their drums

Don't disagree here. but the fact that it actually comes down to software/SDK differences speaks heaps. What Sony has been able to extract from the weaker (spec wise) GPU and a slower memory bus.

Regards

 

[michaelius]

If they knew they were behind and weren't very well prepared then why all the chest beating? If anything that's a time when you should try to be humble.

Ton of people probably ordered xbox because it was supposed be 3rd party leading machine. So motive is pretty clear.

 

[GHG]

Just posting what the guy from Digital Foundry said.

That post wasn't directed at you, was just speaking generally.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Just posting what the guy from Digital Foundry said.

Is it just software though? I mean I can understand some issues coming from it but all of it?

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Seem PS5 have the Dev kits earlier to the Devs advantage

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

There's only one mode worthy of discussion, what can be said about the 60FPS mode being the same on both?

I'm suggesting that perhaps naming the thread "VGTech COD Cold War Frame Rate test" might have been a more accurate way of naming the thread, rather than only mentioning one mode tested?

There's not really much of anything to discuss in either case. The 120fps mode is awful for both consoles with high screen tearing and frame rate dips everywhere. The 60fps with RT mode is great on both consoles.

Nothing is going to happen in three weeks.

Cyberpunk 2077 face-offs will be here around then, showing PS5 with better performance again.

Since there isn't any next gen patches coming until next year, Cyberpunk 2077 will only run on XsX/PS5 in BC mode. I'm not sure anyone would want to call victory on that prematurely.

 

[itsnotme]

Just posting what the guy from Digital Foundry said.

But MrFunSocks told me that Xbox APIs weren't behind

 

[Rea]

Seems like ps5 is king in 120hz mode, in 60hz mode both performed neck to neck. How ironic! Microsoft is the one blabbering about how 120hz is a game changer and turns out ps5 is beating them in 120hz mode. LoL, Xbox team eating delicious crows again.

 

[OnThePathToWisdom]

Forget about the framerate...what is this!? Look at the minigun on the Series S version...

If that isn't a bug....whoo boy...