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[Freelance Yakuza]

I kinda prefer VGT thus far for video comparisons, over NXG and DF. I think the spreadsheet supplement is absolutely brilliant, and helps to quantify what the eye can often miss. DF is slipping down the ladder as far as preferred tech analysis is concerned. I find VGT's voiceless side-by-sides to be the best, with NXG's more technical analysis second-best afterwards. Between encoding issues by YT, and excessive opinionating by their staff, DF is losing some of its luster for me. I only started following any of these channels in the past few months, so I don't know what the norm is.

In that case, here are the VG Tech results:

60 FPS mode:

1. XSX = Mean frame rate 60 FPS | 16.67 ms at 99.99%
2. PS5 = Mean frame rate 59.99 FPS | 16.67 ms at 99.96%

120 FPS mode:

1. XSX = Mean frame rate 114.93 FPS | 8.33 ms at 91.9%
2. PS5 = Mean frame rate 117.02 FPS | 8.33 ms at 94.15%

Source

This is great, more channels should do this

 

[Mr Moose]

The only RT in this game is RTed Shadows. That's Ray Tracing. Pretty impressive for 1440p 60fps.

Hmmm, so it worked for this guy but not DF/VGTech? Weird, thought there was a bug with it.

 

[Insane Metal]

Series S Ray Tracing:

How in the world is that proof that the console has RT? What the hell?

 

[Mobilemofo]

Is that the ps5 l/0 throughput?

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

In that case, here are the VG Tech results:

60 FPS mode:

1. XSX = Mean frame rate 60 FPS | 16.67 ms at 99.99%
2. PS5 = Mean frame rate 59.99 FPS | 16.67 ms at 99.96%

120 FPS mode:

1. XSX = Mean frame rate 114.93 FPS | 8.33 ms at 91.9%
2. PS5 = Mean frame rate 117.02 FPS | 8.33 ms at 94.15%

Source

Cerny is a beast

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

 

[priba76br]

That looks like a cutscene.

I don't think RT is working on the Series S, is it? Might just be higher res shadows(?)


Damn I was going to buy it today.

It seems RT is supported on series S, It was just an option that was not downloaded.

 

[vpance]

DF might as well delete the vid and make a new one. Many missed observations and false conclusions.

 

[BeardGawd]

How in the world is that proof that the console has RT? What the hell?

This game has Ray Traced shadows. Thats the only Ray tracing. DF has made a correction that Ray Tracing was downloaded for the Series S version but they thought it didn't have it because it wasn't listed in the options.

 

[VincentMatts]

Honestly, these next gen comparisons feel like a huge waste of time right now, especially with all the FW bugs the consoles have. I know they have a job to do but man, i cant even play one game of CW right now without it crashing. Not exactly ideal scenario.

 

[Mr Moose]

It seems RT is supported on series S, It was just an option that was not downloaded.

Yeah I don't know wtf is going on lol


It's CoD at launch though, they'll fix the issues soon hopefully.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

This is great, more channels should do this

My only issue with it is its 8 minutes of campaign, and unless helicopter fighting is half the game they used too many helicopter scenes to actually get an average fps for actual play.

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

The real issue DF needs to address is... What happened to #BirdGate?

First, they came for the grass, and I did not speak out
...because I wasn't a gardener

Then they came for the birds, and I did not speak out
...because I wasn't an ornithologist

 

[RoadHazard]

It's funny how when the XSX version of a game has issues and performs or looks worse the DF guys make excuses for it and try to explain it away as a bug, but when the XSX version wins they seem very content with that and not concerned about the PS5 version performing worse at all.

 

[reinking]

Ive said it before. There are a lot more stupid made up posts in this thread from sony fans. Just look at the amount of screenshots. The ones that show PS in a favorable light outnumber the favorable xbox ones by quite a bit. The xbox side is just as dumb but at least there are half as many dumb posts because half as many fans.

Put that down in your Xbox win column?

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

Put that down in your Xbox win column?

I guess someone could if they were really reaching

 

[EverydayBeast]

Treyarch does great with COD, plenty of efficient choices but also plenty of issues.

 

[ethomaz]

Yeah I don't know wtf is going on lol


It's CoD at launch though, they'll fix the issues soon hopefully.

 

[ethomaz]

This game has Ray Traced shadows. Thats the only Ray tracing. DF has made a correction that Ray Tracing was downloaded for the Series S version but they thought it didn't have it because it wasn't listed in the options.

There is no RT in Series S even with the RT pack installed.
If they corrected then they corrected wrong.

 

[phil_t98]

Don't care what John thinks about Microsoft, I care about the way DF handles like for like situations. The proof is in the pudding. Dirt 5? Major problem, gotta get to the bottom of it, be really careful of what is said. COD? Everything seems normal.

I don't do these analysis/comparisons for a living so I don't see why I would have to meet the standard. Your comment rings hollow.

To be fair, the problem with dirt 5 is a major thing we’re this is just dropping a few frames here and there. Not dropping graphics quality or that. Both are pretty much identical with COD

 

[iHaunter]

So just going to ignore how the PS5 drops to near 30 fps in raytracing, 60fps mode but the XsX has zero issues?

Definitely something fucky in this game. Both versions of the game are unstable.

 

[ethomaz]

Series S Ray Tracing:

Dark is trying to reach who made theses videos.
Because nobody could enable RT on Series S.

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

Ive said it before. There are a lot more stupid made up posts in this thread from sony fans. Just look at the amount of screenshots. The ones that show PS in a favorable light outnumber the favorable xbox ones by quite a bit. The xbox side is just as dumb but at least there are half as many dumb posts because half as many fans.

We need to go deeper

the% of dumb xbox owners/fans vs the % of dumb playstation owners/fans

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

We need to go deeper

the% of dumb xbox owners/fans vs the % of dumb playstation owners/fans

Im not going to put in that much work but if i had to venture a guess id put it around 50% for both.

 

[BeardGawd]

 

[ethomaz]

Maybe a old patch?
I mean the actual patch just doesn’t allow RT on Series S due bug?

 

[Emedan]

This thread is ridiculous. There's parity, differences fall within randomness.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

Yeah the helicopter foliage for sure looks way better in this video.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I have a feeling that bugs are going to make future comparisons really annoying.

 

[BeardGawd]

It would be hilarious if someone just relabeled SX footage as SS... it looks like Ray tracing to me but we shall see... would be crazy at 1440p... perhaps its more limited to certain scenes or less accurate in other ways.

 

[ethomaz]

It would be hilarious if someone just relabeled SX footage as SS... it looks like Ray tracing to me but we shall see... would be crazy at 1440p... perhaps its more limited to certain scenes or less accurate in other ways.

That should not surprise me.

 

[J_Gamer.exe]

Damn, someone check on Riky see if he's OK

After all that bragging about xbox power and this is more compure units showing etc. He was so sure.

Over a bug..... where ps5 runs it lower and at 60 in the same circumstances.

That was your victory? LOL.

Amazing.

 

[Md Ray]

Damn, someone check on Riky see if he's OK

After all that bragging about xbox power and this is more compure units showing etc. He was so sure.

Over a bug..... where ps5 runs it lower and at 60 in the same circumstances.

That was your victory? LOL.

Amazing.

Damn you both have similar looking avatars. Any time you post I end up mistaking you for him and vice-versa.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

Ah we've moved onto the anger phase, I see.

Stop projecting

 

[MasterCornholio]

Damn you both have similar looking avatars. Any time you post I end up mistaking you for him and vice-versa.

Here's a secret.

They are actually married to each other.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Hmmm ...

It's amazing how they glossed over so many missing graphical effects. From particles in fire and smoke, to lights.

I wonder why that is?

 

[Cherrypepsi]

frankly, everyone who has a next gen console can be happy.

you need a 2080ti to achieve 60fps with those settings at 4k on PC, without DLSS

I'm not sure you (the people arguing about 1% differences) realize how good this is, and it only gets better from here.

 

[Heisenberg007]

It's amazing how they glossed over so many missing graphical effects. From particles in fire and smoke, to lights.

I wonder why that is?

I later checked it frame by frame. It was just a bug in the game -- not a particular shortcoming on XSX.

 

[QuantumZebra]

In that case, here are the VG Tech results:

60 FPS mode:

1. XSX = Mean frame rate 60 FPS | 16.67 ms at 99.99%
2. PS5 = Mean frame rate 59.99 FPS | 16.67 ms at 99.96%

120 FPS mode:

1. XSX = Mean frame rate 114.93 FPS | 8.33 ms at 91.9%
2. PS5 = Mean frame rate 117.02 FPS | 8.33 ms at 94.15%

Source

This needs to be posted more.

Xbox fans here: "LOL WHERE PSBOIS AT NOW?!"

PS fans here: "STILL GOT 120FPSSS"

Reality: both are close as fuck. If you want higher FPS, go PS5, if you want better RT, go XSeX.

frankly, everyone who has a next gen console can be happy.

you need a 2080ti to achieve 60fps with those settings at 4k on PC, without DLSS

I'm not sure you (the people arguing about 1% differences) realize how good this is, and it only gets better from here.

#fortheplayers

#weallwinnin

 

[phil_t98]

It's amazing how they glossed over so many missing graphical effects. From particles in fire and smoke, to lights.

I wonder why that is?

there is another screen shot a few pages back of the same image where the xbox has lights and PS5 dont lol it just picking and choosing now

 

[DeepEnigma]

these frame drops happen randomly, vg tech had noticed it before them.

And some people get on him and try to dismiss him. This is why it is good to have multiple sources for technical breakdowns when bugs and anomalies can and do occur.

I later checked it frame by frame. It was just a bug in the game -- not a particular shortcoming on XSX.

there is another screen shot a few pages back of the same image where the xbox has lights and PS5 dont lol it just picking and choosing now

Seems this is buggy all around on all systems.

 

[phil_t98]

TRY HARDER

DeepEnigma here you go, just seems to have a few things in different places for some odd reason

 

[LivingD3AD]

Here we go

 

[DeepEnigma]

Here we go

A testament to not rush something out with so many "absolutes" in chosen language used. Gonna be a long gen for comparisons if some can't shake their preconceived lens of subjectivity based on paper tigers.

 

[Md Ray]

frankly, everyone who has a next gen console can be happy.

you need a 2080ti to achieve 60fps with those settings at 4k on PC, without DLSS

I'm not sure you (the people arguing about 1% differences) realize how good this is, and it only gets better from here.

No dynamic resolution on PC?

 

[Mr Moose]

The numbers, Mason, what do they mean?

When's the MP test coming?

 

[Md Ray]

If you want higher FPS, go PS5, if you want better RT, go XSeX.

If you want both, go PC.

 

[QuantumZebra]

If you want both, go PC.

Working in IT (and having side by side TVs with my wife) I just cannot sit in front of a desk/PC monitor when I get home.

It's beer, couch, PS4 controller for me.

 

[Riky]

Damn, someone check on Riky see if he's OK

After all that bragging about xbox power and this is more compure units showing etc. He was so sure.

Over a bug..... where ps5 runs it lower and at 60 in the same circumstances.

That was your victory? LOL.

Amazing.

I'm fine because my version doesn't tank to 40fps, they don't know what it is and it's more than one scene as per my screenshots. He probably doesn't want to upset anymore fanboys by telling them the small GPU can't handle RT at 60fps.

 

[Md Ray]

Working in IT (and having side by side TVs with my wife) I just cannot sit in front of a desk/PC monitor when I get home.

It's beer, couch, PS4 controller for me.

Me too, except I have both PS4 and PC hooked up to the TV and use DS4 on both. I never use kb+mouse for gaming. *runs and hides*