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Microsoft supposedly forced parity on Division 1

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SonGoku

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Yeah it's called modern marketing rights in the gaming world. Sony does it freaking all the time e.g. Destiny.

The difference is what company does it.

All jokes aside, I guess people on both sides gets upset when anyone gets a worse experience, regardless of platform. Just easier to notice for PS4 players, since there’s like three times as many compared to Xbox One.
Comon now, we haven't heard of anything like this between PRO and X. Not even ps360 where 360 was kicking ps3 butt in multi-plats
Unless new evidence proves otherwise MS alone is guilty of this shady ass practice, no need to group everyone together to dillutte MS's guilt
 

Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
Comon now, we haven't heard of anything like this between PRO and X. Not even ps360 where 360 was kicking ps3 butt in multi-plats
Unless new evidence proves otherwise MS alone is guilty of this shady ass practice, no need to group everyone together to dillutte MS's guilt
How is MS guilty of this when the Digital Foundry technical analysis of the very game this article brings up to present proof that MS paid Ubisoft to gimp was proven to be better on PS4?

Is there something I'm missing here?
 
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Allandor

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Sry, but I don't think this source is legit. Sounds more like speculation and trying to get some attention.
Ubisoft forced parity in their games at day one (at least in many of them). This makes game-creation much cheaper. If you already optimize for the slower console, it should also run good on the stronger. Just a simple business descision. This is a multiplayer-shooter, parity may be intended. Only with the mid-gen consoles they changed that.

but well, the article has something to do with MS so this thread will be trolled by fanboys anyway.
 
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FacelessSamurai

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The existence of 'parity' clauses has been discussed at length. In this case, it appears those thoughts were valid.
I could have told you that OP and I did do so too, over the last few years, if you've been following tech threads.....that is...

The parity on destiny was clearly obvious, remember when I said MS sent a team of engineers to boost the game on XBOX-ONE, they also sent a team of monee-ngineers too. Destiny could have looked and run so much better on PS4, but they spent lots of time and resources getting the Xbox version up to par.

Ubisoft though takes the cake; egalite, fraternite, liberte ... Division 1, they went for parity and gimping the PS4 version, those downgrades we saw had a lot to do with Xbox one. AC Unity was the biggest sin though. 900p on both consoles and better performance on Xbox, when other games had a 1080p to 720p divide vs Xbox and still better performance and effects. This was the most blatant from Ubi, but everyone knows that Ubisoft is on record saying they gimped the PS4 version, because debates and stuff? Ms and it's fans don't like the debates......

Witcher 3 was blatant, better performance and some reflections on Xbox, marketing deal, Ms dollars, it's clear. Hell, Pro could have had a patch for said game eons ago, but they were too busy. Xbonex got a solid patch with more features, they sure took their time on that version. Pretty much the whole Witcher 3 situation on PS4 including all the promises to fix the bog was a farce, the bog is still not a locked 30fps on Pro for crying out loud, it falls to 27, 26fps still. That hdr implementation was a joke, but clearly, if Xbox One runs the Witcher about on par as a pro in the bog on average, that's all you need to know.

Then we move to Capcom. They need the money, just like Xbox fans say Obsidian needs the money. Strider, where's the AF.... Revelations 2? The most blatant for me from them. 1080p on both consoles, 20+fps uplift on a weak box like Xbox One over PS4 in certain scenes, but get this, alpha heavy scenes, you simply can't make this stuff up.

Now this same MS is saying Sony is anti-consumer, not sharing its base with them, whilst they nickel and dime their base with an Xblive paywall for FREE TO PLAY Games..... Clearly denied PS players much better versions of games, but now it's kumbaya times and the MS horde is bent out of shape pushing a destructive MS agenda in the name of consumer rights, when they know its anything but genuine, whilst Ms goes into full throttle motion sans vaseline with pay to access free to play games and betas on that very horde, deny them good games for five years, but here they are. At least if you had great games to show.... but nothing......

Yet some want an MS paved future, who has the most anti-consumer practices coined-up and known about in the corporate world with Nvidia being the ever studious apprentice in the here and now......

Is it coincidence that all these games were gimped? Sigh! .....Yet baffling that some people would choose to deny that MS has still not rescinded on it's 2013 plan and callous policies...

Must be fun living in your world, where you just make shit up and believe you are always right.
 
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NickFire

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I'm not a fan of parity for parity's sake. But if a dev/pub ensures parity exists because it signed a deal with MS or Sony, the blame lies squarely with the dev/pub.
 

GribbleGrunger

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We knew this at the time, no?

I sure remember reading it somewhere.

I've just noticed this thread and yes, we knew about this. I remember trying to discuss this but was met with 'tinfoil hat' comments, the go to get out of jail card for people who can't face reality or read.
 

sainraja

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As I mentioned in my original post, I was referring to marketing rights. It's really not hard to understand what I was saying lol.


Yes, and what's wrong with it? I never understood that ridiculous meme. "Yeah this practice sucks but it's an industry wide issue that needs addressed." OMG HE JUST SONY TOO™ BAN HIM HUR DUR! Give me a break. Because Sony is the top dog this gen, they can't be held accountable.

Um, the thread isn't about Sony/Microsoft locking in exclusive content. It has to do with, in this thread, Microsoft requiring Ubisoft to make the PS4 match the Xbox One version.
(true or not).

As I mentioned in my original post, I was referring to marketing rights. It's really not hard to understand what I was saying lol.


Yes, and what's wrong with it? I never understood that ridiculous meme. "Yeah this practice sucks but it's an industry wide issue that needs addressed." OMG HE JUST SONY TOO™ BAN HIM HUR DUR! Give me a break. Because Sony is the top dog this gen, they can't be held accountable.

Are you going to be okay?
 
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Night.Ninja

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oldergamer

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Are you kidding? this is nothing new. Sony has done this in the past where they literally forced developers to add in extras, more levels, more enemies, and publish on playstation first, before they would grant development approval on a title. Note this was the PS2 days.

I saw them blacklist a developer only because they had released a title on the original Xbox. They literally said, these people are on the blacklist, we hope you aren't going to show us any games from them.

Just be glad there are less anticompetitive practices going on now.
 

ClosBSAS

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lol fucking parity man...so dumb. watch dogs had parity too, and then in the files they found a fuck pc gamers note from ubisoft. fuck a ubisoft.
 
I remember reading about this topic, and related topics surrounding parity a longggggg time ago so I forgot the fine details.

A few questions for anyone that still has that knowledge fresh:

Does Microsoft have a parity clause still?

Does Sony have one too or did they drop it and I forgot?
 
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THE DUCK

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Waitbso if console parity is a real, does that mean all of the head to head comparisons of series x vs ps5 are meaningless? Lol
 

Compsiox

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Phil wasn't truly in charge until 2017. Just saying.

Edit: Okay ancient bumped for the sake of conspiracy.
 
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Freeman76

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Who fucking cares. In the grand scheme of life how is this even worth discussing at this point. Bored motherfuckers will do anything to get attention these days.
 
I mean...... Division kinda sucked in the end, and Division 2 also seems to have bombed. I'm surprised Ubisoft hasn't retooled this game to something to more like DayZ or a survival horror game where every group encounter would be deadly. This whole RPGiffication of everything is a bit lame.
 
What is even forced parity? lol and who is to know if Sony is not doing forced parity why is it that only MS does forced parity lol
 
There was no forced pairity xbox was dynamic res upto 1080p playstation was 1080p, just off the top of my head, think playstation had some better effects too. Just check the DF video
 

REDRZA MWS

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VG247 has an article on spiderman puddlegate and it has this choice quote:

Forcing parity so you can claim your console is the best place to play games.
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Like it doesn’t go the other way too. Smh..... this shit is real old. Console war bullshit. Gotta be a 12 year old or mentally challenged.
 

REDRZA MWS

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Yeah, when a game patch is bugging, blame Microsoft,not Ubisoft.

Microsoft is the cause of world hunger, cancer, and COVID 19.
Exactly. All this hate toward something you don’t own and never will. All this energy spent hating something you’ll never own. Play your PlayStation or switch and just be fucking happy.
 
Who fucking cares. In the grand scheme of life how is this even worth discussing at this point. Bored motherfuckers will do anything to get attention these days.

And? shit, you could say that for just about any and every thread on this site. “In the grand scheme of things” video games are a fucking joke for bored motherfuckers to waste money and time on, lol
 

Grinchy

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I wonder who paid them to get 70% of the way through creating the lighting for Division 2 and then just give up, leaving many areas just completely pitch black.
 

JLB

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Microsoft has a deal with Ubisoft on Watchdogs and Valhalla....during the console launch of The Worlds Most Powerful Console.

A recent patch takes one down a peg.....Coincidence? You be the judge

If in the future, as it will inevitably happen since its more powerful than ps5, most games will run better on series x, “the deal” will move from Ubi to AMD.
Wait and see.
 

huraga

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Too much fud, they are talking about rumors from many years ago. I doesn´t make sense! It´s only another argument to continue with this stupid war.
 

huraga

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Microsoft has a deal with Ubisoft on Watchdogs and Valhalla....during the console launch of The Worlds Most Powerful CONSOLE....

A recent patch takes one down a peg.....Coincidence? Were emergency phone calls made? you be the judge

I love how conspiranoic people can be ... But you forget that the platform that sells the most by far is Sony and that knocks down all the arguments.

What does a company prefer? have 60 million angry users or 120 million?
 
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