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IGN: Xbox Series X Is Great, But It Needs Games ASAP

Why is it that every thread that criticizes Xbox’s horrible launch strategy and total lack of new games turn into a referendum on Sony, who actually launched with new and exclusive titles that take advantage of the hardware? Does a single Xbox Series X MS patch even use ray tracing?

If Xbox Series X launched with titles of the quality of Astro, MM, and Demons Souls, people would have been thrilled. Sony did it right, MS did not, period.

Because of the double standards. Demon Souls is a remaster and spiderman MM is available on PS4.

Why are those countable but Forza H4, GEARS 5, tactics, sea of thieves, and a dozen others that have been upgraded not counted.

Then people talk about back compatibility being pointless but I bet one of the best selling games on the ps5 is cyberpunk.

As I said at the start, the only people saying the xbox has no games are the fanboys that have no intention of getting one. Gamepass has a ton of games and many that are rated extremely high. I have so many good quality games I want to play im actually having to plan when I'm going to play them. If the xbox isn't for you, fair enough.

I do kinda feel bad for Sony fanboys who love to console war. They just seem kinda desperate not to take more L's this gen when they should really be just enjoying the games.
 
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somebody should really go and recover the master chief collection reveal thread, full of people saying they would buy xboxone because of a bunch of ports and a remake, to show how hypocritical some people can be.
 

The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
In 2021 there will be no more excuses. No more trying to downplay PS5 releases by calling Spider-Man Miles Morales DLC or Demon’s Souls Remake a PS3 ‘remaster’.

They will have to contend with Horizon, God of War, Returnal, Destruction Allstars, Kena, Deathloop, Ghostwire, Ratchet and Clank and more. What will the excuse for Series X having no games be then?

Why is everyone so fucking crazy thinking that everyone loves sonys games?

Why the fuck would anyone literally buy an Xbox if they'd prefer sonys exclusives?

You guys needs to wake the fuck up instead of being a hiveminded circlejerk. This is equivalent to Resetera, except instead of SJWing people are clapping each others backs because Sony is the best thing since sliced bread.

Why would I play on pc(where sonys games tend to come anyway) or any other platform if I wanted to play on a PlayStation?

Everyone and their soccer mom's know what a PlayStation is. People here know what a PlayStation is. This ain't Japan where the word xbox doesn't even exist.

Why are you guys acting like a Cerny cult, not respecting other people's opinions except your own?

I don't care about sonys games. I can play the Xbox games I want on my pc. And so what? Why am I an enemy to you because I don't enjoy sonys cinematic driven games?
This is not specific to you, but in general to have harassing all knowing people with as much as respect to other people's opinion as Era, who can't accept people not playing on playstation.

You are all laughing at Era, while we have a hardcore dedicated PlayStation group who acts like Era.
And I am aware that there are people like this on all platforms, but just look at this thread alone and see how massive amount of selfish PlayStation posters there are.
Aint saying everyone are like that. You know who you are.
Or, the worst part is I actually even doubt that.
 
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Mentat02

Banned
I mainly game on PC but I'm excited for a lot of Xbox games. Halo, STALKER 2, Scorn, Starfield, The Elder Scrolls 6, Hellblade 2, Fable and more Yakuza games. Microsoft needs to look into renting fromsoft to develop an exclusive game for them and they'll have a solid line up for the next 5 years
 

tusharngf

Member
I have been hearing the same thing from 2013... XBOX needs more game. You know what i made peace with xbox brand and switched to PC. They still got no games..
 

Desudzer10

Member
Exclusive next gen games that matter at the moment are Demon souls and astroboy. Other than that every next gen only game is mediocre. Spiderman is cross gen so that takes it out of the conversation. No, xbox has no Exclusive next gen title thats great, but that's fine. Both systems are heavily relying on BC, especially with cyberpunk now.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I heard good things about it, how would you rate it compared to other Yakuzas?
I've only played this one and 0.

Most people say that 0 is one of the best and I think those two are of the same quality, so overall I would say it's a damn good Yakuza game.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
Because of the double standards. Demon Souls is a remaster and spiderman MM is available on PS4.

Why are those countable but Forza H4, GEARS 5, tactics, sea of thieves, and a dozen others that have been upgraded not counted.

Then people talk about back compatibility being pointless but I bet one of the best selling games on the ps5 is cyberpunk.

As I said at the start, the only people saying the xbox has no games are the fanboys that have no intention of getting one. Gamepass has a ton of games and many that are rated extremely high. I have so many good quality games I want to play im actually having to plan when I'm going to play them

It's not a double standard. If MS launched XSX with a remake of the quality of Demon Souls, people would have loved it. A full remake of, say, Fable or Lost Odyssey that took 100% advantage of the brand new hardware would have been awesome. Patches on last-gen games are not equivalent, especially when they are for games that people don't really care about (Gears 5) or actually remove graphical features from the One X games (Forza Horizon 4).

Spiderman MM is available on PS4 but it is also a brand new game, and it takes advantage of features on the hardware in a way that, to my knowledge, no first party MS patches are doing. If Sony just released a 4K version of the base game for PS5, you would have a point, but they also made a brand new title.

Oh and there is also Astro which takes advantage of the new hardware, is exclusive, and is a free pack-in game.

Look, if 343 actually delivered with Halo Infinite, MS wouldn't be in this mess, but MS also made the mistake of relying on 343 to deliver in the first place.
 
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FrankWza

Member
Remake. 60 FPS and it’s the best looking game on any platform right now. Someone who bought in on a power promise should understand the difference between that and a PS3 game. No?
spiderman MM is available on PS4
with ray tracing? It looks and plays exactly the same?
Why are those countable but Forza H4, GEARS 5, tactics, sea of thieves, and a dozen others that have been upgraded not counted.
BC only with a slight bump. Less than a remastered version.
As I said at the start, the only people saying the xbox has no games are the fanboys
what about the article posted in OP? That’s from IGN and written by their xbox reporter.
Gamepass has a ton of games and many that are rated extremely high.
AC Valhalla? Fenyx rising? Cold War? 2k? Any new releases?
 
It's not a double standard. If MS launched XSX with a remake of the quality of Demon Souls, people would have loved it. A full remake of, say, Fable or Lost Odyssey that took 100% advantage of the brand new hardware would have been awesome. Patches on last-gen games are not equivalent, especially when they are for games that people don't really care about (Gears 5) or actually remove graphical features from the One X games (Forza Horizon 4).

Spiderman MM is available on PS4 but it is also a brand new game, and it takes advantage of features on the hardware in a way that, to my knowledge, no first party MS patches are doing. If Sony just released a 4K version of the base game for PS5, you would have a point, but they also made a brand new title.

Look, if 343 actually delivered with Halo Infinite, MS wouldn't be in this mess, but MS also made the mistake of relying on 343 to deliver in the first place.

Yeah just adding some AF and increasing resolution is nice but the result will be nothing comparable to Demons Souls PS5.

People were hyped for the Master Chief Collection and rightfully so, but Microsoft shit the bed.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
Why is everyone so fucking crazy thinking that everyone loves sonys games?

Why the fuck would anyone literally buy an Xbox if they'd prefer sonys exclusives?

You guys needs to wake the fuck up instead of being a hiveminded circlejerk. This is equivalent to Resetera, except instead of SJWing people are clapping each others backs because Sony is the best thing since sliced bread.

Why would I play on pc(where sonys games tend to come anyway) or any other platform if I wanted to play on a PlayStation?

Everyone and their soccer mom's know what a PlayStation is. People here know what a PlayStation is. This ain't Japan where the word xbox doesn't even exist.

Why are you guys acting like a Cerny cult, not respecting other people's opinions except your own?

I don't care about sonys games. I can play the Xbox games I want on my pc. And so what? Why am I an enemy to you because I don't enjoy sonys cinematic driven games?
This is not specific to you, but in general to have harassing all knowing people with as much as respect to other people's opinion as Era, who can't accept people not playing on playstation.

You are all laughing at Era, while we have a hardcore dedicated PlayStation group who acts like Era.
And I am aware that there are people like this on all platforms, but just look at this thread alone and see how massive amount of selfish PlayStation posters there are.
Aint saying everyone are like that. You know who you are.
Or, the worst part is I actually even doubt that.
I totally agree with you everybody has different tastes, and in reality I do think it is the only valid argument about why you want to buy X or Y console...Simply because I like their games more...And that's the only inattackable argument.
However don't you think there's been a lot of downplay about sony games from certain members?
When some write it doesn't count because it is a remake, an expansion, comes packed i with the console etc...

I would also agree with you on Cerny's cult I never understood those kind of cults, like with Phil Spencer and Reggie Fils-Aimée I guess people need to identify with an human working for their favorite console?That would be a plausible explanation, maybe?

When talking about hardcore dedicated playstation fan, sure there is some, but look at some of those hardcore Xbox fanboys.
Have you seen the amount of FUD there's been for the ps5?It is in no way comparable to the Fud there's been on the Xbox.
And it is even worse considering that there is about 2 times the number of possessor of ps4 than Xboxs, it should've been 2x worse Fud against Xbox than Ps5.
Yet it is not even a close competition there Xbox definitely has the lead (just an innocent joke).
It is very easy to call this site sonygaf even moreso when you are quick to forgive and forget hardcore fanboys from Xbox.
Clearly Sony's games are highly regarded either by the press or by the gamers, but does their games need to be belittled because you don't like them ?
I for example don't care about most sports games, but I won't shit on Fifa at every chance I have because I don't like playing their games, I'm not the target and that's OK.I don't have to belittle the game.
As for this thread think the IGN title is pretty clever at fueling the console war, which is what is happening here.
The title would've been Xbox xsx/s need exclusive games ASAP, would we've been arguing?Probably, yeah but way less.
And I do think it would be great for Xbox players to have a game dedicated to their platform showing it in all its glory, which are what Miles Morales and Demon's Souls are doing.
But stop claiming that sony can't be attacked here when the thread derailed mostly to attack sony games.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
I've only played this one and 0.

Most people say that 0 is one of the best and I think those two are of the same quality, so overall I would say it's a damn good Yakuza game.
On video the comabt system seemed weird, how does it feel when you play it ?
 
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jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
I've been playing 'Valhalla', 'Watch Dogs', 'Call of the Sea' and 'Tetris' on the Series X and I haven't really got enough time for that.

Is the ridiculous theory that people only play first party games?
The theory is that with a library that will be identical with 3rd party games, the first party/exclusives are what will set them apart, draw ppl in more. The first party games will, should tap into the specs, power of the console more.

Game pass is a draw, right? Its an exclusive service. If it can apply to services, why cant it apply to individual games?
 
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Hezekiah

Banned
Look at the first row and then work you way down row by row. This is just a sample. :messenger_savoring:



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It's good they're funding some other franchises because Halo and Gears are declining in terms of influence and sales.

Where Microsoft have really screwed up is that most of these will be coming out in 2023 or beyond.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
On video the comabt system seemed weird, how does it feel when you play it ?
Have you played South Park: The Stick of Truth or any Mario & Luigi RPG game? It's pretty similsr to those.

I liked it. It's not the most depth you are going to find in a battle system but it's fun for sure, and it even gets difficult later on.
 

kuncol02

Banned
Because of the double standards. Demon Souls is a remaster and spiderman MM is available on PS4.

Why are those countable but Forza H4, GEARS 5, tactics, sea of thieves, and a dozen others that have been upgraded not counted.

Then people talk about back compatibility being pointless but I bet one of the best selling games on the ps5 is cyberpunk.

As I said at the start, the only people saying the xbox has no games are the fanboys that have no intention of getting one. Gamepass has a ton of games and many that are rated extremely high. I have so many good quality games I want to play im actually having to plan when I'm going to play them. If the xbox isn't for you, fair enough.

I do kinda feel bad for Sony fanboys who love to console war. They just seem kinda desperate not to take more L's this gen when they should really be just enjoying the games.
Gears Tactics is new game for consoles.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
Have you played South Park: The Stick of Truth or any Mario & Luigi RPG game? It's pretty similsr to those.

I liked it. It's not the most depth you are going to find in a battle system but it's fun for sure, and it even gets difficult later on.
Alright your comparison makes me want to play it more now.

Oh I think I hear my wallet insulting you in advance.
 

xrnzaaas

Member
Look at the first row and then work you way down row by row. This is just a sample. :messenger_savoring:



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At least half of these games are still in early (or very early) development and the chances of seeing them in 2021 are slim to none. I mean it's great that Microsoft is making moves to ensure that they will get more exclusives down the road, but the situation won't change drastically in the next ~12 months.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Alright your comparison makes me want to play it more now.

Oh I think I hear my wallet insulting you in advance.
Sorry for you wallet dude... but glad for you! Game is long, has an interesting story and fun gameplay. Enjoy!
 

Blue Spring

Read my tears about xbox here --->
You will not change the mind of people that still stick to Xbox after a whole gen of no games. But I do wonder how many of them are truly left.
I could see the X/S series being the absolute worst selling console for microsoft and with that the end of their console endeavour.
 

Nikana

Go Go Neo Rangers!
Why is everyone so fucking crazy thinking that everyone loves sonys games?

Why the fuck would anyone literally buy an Xbox if they'd prefer sonys exclusives?

You guys needs to wake the fuck up instead of being a hiveminded circlejerk. This is equivalent to Resetera, except instead of SJWing people are clapping each others backs because Sony is the best thing since sliced bread.

Why would I play on pc(where sonys games tend to come anyway) or any other platform if I wanted to play on a PlayStation?

Everyone and their soccer mom's know what a PlayStation is. People here know what a PlayStation is. This ain't Japan where the word xbox doesn't even exist.

Why are you guys acting like a Cerny cult, not respecting other people's opinions except your own?

I don't care about sonys games. I can play the Xbox games I want on my pc. And so what? Why am I an enemy to you because I don't enjoy sonys cinematic driven games?
This is not specific to you, but in general to have harassing all knowing people with as much as respect to other people's opinion as Era, who can't accept people not playing on playstation.

You are all laughing at Era, while we have a hardcore dedicated PlayStation group who acts like Era.
And I am aware that there are people like this on all platforms, but just look at this thread alone and see how massive amount of selfish PlayStation posters there are.
Aint saying everyone are like that. You know who you are.
Or, the worst part is I actually even doubt that.

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Because of the double standards. Demon Souls is a remaster and spiderman MM is available on PS4.

Why are those countable but Forza H4, GEARS 5, tactics, sea of thieves, and a dozen others that have been upgraded not counted.

Then people talk about back compatibility being pointless but I bet one of the best selling games on the ps5 is cyberpunk.

As I said at the start, the only people saying the xbox has no games are the fanboys that have no intention of getting one. Gamepass has a ton of games and many that are rated extremely high. I have so many good quality games I want to play im actually having to plan when I'm going to play them. If the xbox isn't for you, fair enough.

I do kinda feel bad for Sony fanboys who love to console war. They just seem kinda desperate not to take more L's this gen when they should really be just enjoying the games.


How can you be comparing H4, Gears, SoT and others to Demon Souls and Spiderman?

People would be reacting well if Xbox actually had a next gen game, which they dont.

In the meantime Demon Souls is the best looking game ever made, even if you consider cyberpunk to be better looking, its still an incredible looking game.

What are you on about BC and cyberpunk?! Thats a terrible comparison to whatever you were trying to say.

Gamepass is great, but you're essencially playing old games, that most have already played. Xbox SX in its current state is a dud, its a console that plays old games, thats it. They should have planned for a decent lineup, because this will hurt Xbox hard in the long term.

You have a huge pair of xbox fanboyism glasses on, pleaste take them off.
 

Hugare

Member
Games take a while to come out of the oven, even in the case of PlayStation where we started to see the hits come in the latter half of the gen.
That's why you put a lot of them in the oven at the same time, and not one at a time

"even in the case of PlayStation where we started to see the hits come in the latter half of the gen."

In 2013 Resogun launched (84 MC)

Infamous Second Son released in 2014 (80 MC, so good enough)

Bloodborne and Until Dawn released in 2015. Uncharted 4 and the Last Guardian in 2016.
 

Hezekiah

Banned
Well, I've been busy playing Call of the Sea (wonderful puzzle game), Gears Tactics (amazing). I even went through Bright Memory (not great, but the full version next year has potential), Falconeer (pretty damn good when you learn controls) in the three weeks since I got XSX. I also have been busy playing Sea of Thieves, Destiny 2, We Happy Few, Sekiro which all have improved by either adding 60 fps or making framerate more consistent. I had a blast checking out old titles with new auto-HDR support. I also finished Assassin's Creed Valhalla which is my top3 game after Ori and Wasteland 3. Don't really have time to complain about the lack of games online. Sorry.
I know a lot of Xbox owners say they're not fans of 'cinematic Playsation games'. But I think it's fair to say many gamers aren't buying next gen machines for games like Call of Sea and Gears Tactics, they simply don't appeal to a lot of people. Especially when Microsoft when so hard on the power angle in their marketing.
 

silentstorm

Member
The Xbox Series apparently had the best launch ever for Xbox and with Game Pass and all the studios they bought, i really doubt it will sell less than the Xbox One, it's also assuming everyone cares for exclusives, a lot of people really just play multiparty games.

Anyways, i own a Xbox and hope that Microsoft's studios deliver something good, but i am also interested in a PS5 and some of it's games like Astro and Spider-Man, not Demon's Souls...but honestly, i...don't really like Soulsborne games, i have bought and played some of those, went back and tried Dark Souls Remastered recently, a few times just trying to figure out why people love those games so much but it's really not my cup of tea, honestly, every other exclusive on Sony like Miles Morales looks a lot better than Demon's Souls and i am always shocked people talking lovingly about Soulsborne games...before i remember i am apparently the only person on Earth that can't get into them.
 
Because of the double standards. Demon Souls is a remaster and spiderman MM is available on PS4.

Why are those countable but Forza H4, GEARS 5, tactics, sea of thieves, and a dozen others that have been upgraded not counted.

Then people talk about back compatibility being pointless but I bet one of the best selling games on the ps5 is cyberpunk.

As I said at the start, the only people saying the xbox has no games are the fanboys that have no intention of getting one. Gamepass has a ton of games and many that are rated extremely high. I have so many good quality games I want to play im actually having to plan when I'm going to play them. If the xbox isn't for you, fair enough.

I do kinda feel bad for Sony fanboys who love to console war. They just seem kinda desperate not to take more L's this gen when they should really be just enjoying the games.

I have enjoyed my Series X more than my PS5 just because I have so much to play with Games Pass alone.

Once I beat Spiderman MM I barely turn on my PS5 because that and demon souls are the only games I am interested in and I refuse to play $70 for Demon souls so I am waiting on a deal for that game.

The fanboy nonsense is sad because people are really missing out on actually playing video games because they "keep trying to pick a side" which does not help them in the long run.
 

Hezekiah

Banned
This is how I felt when I was deciding between XSX and PS5. I love Xbox and I’ve never owned a PlayStation, but I wanted to play all those PS4 exclusives I missed.

Xbox has a ton of potential though with their recent studio acquisitions, and I think XSX will be a must-own console by 2023.
Let's hope so, but it will never be must own if you have a gaming PC, especially if you have a controller.
 

The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
When talking about hardcore dedicated playstation fan, sure there is some, but look at some of those hardcore Xbox fanboys.
Have you seen the amount of FUD there's been for the ps5?It is in no way comparable to the Fud there's been on the Xbox.

You had some decent points Id agree with, but I stopped reading there.

Seen how xbox players got harassed at one release and how they got mocked for 4 months straight with the secret cerny sauce, I can't just take the rest of your post seriously.

Maybe you just weren't around then, but there's a reason Gaf has the nickname Sonygaf.
 
Because of the double standards. Demon Souls is a remaster and spiderman MM is available on PS4.

Why are those countable but Forza H4, GEARS 5, tactics, sea of thieves, and a dozen others that have been upgraded not counted.

Then people talk about back compatibility being pointless but I bet one of the best selling games on the ps5 is cyberpunk.

As I said at the start, the only people saying the xbox has no games are the fanboys that have no intention of getting one. Gamepass has a ton of games and many that are rated extremely high. I have so many good quality games I want to play im actually having to plan when I'm going to play them. If the xbox isn't for you, fair enough.

I do kinda feel bad for Sony fanboys who love to console war. They just seem kinda desperate not to take more L's this gen when they should really be just enjoying the games.
You should see Sony fans in the PC Cyberpunk threads. They spend so mutch time in NXgamer and DF comparison threads talking about how a few frames, muzzle flashes here and there make the PS5 superior. And then they try to say that the only thing that makes the PS5 and PC gaming different is the price.
 
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It is a remake. That is different.
Just curious outside of the graphics and load times, how is the game any different from the PS3 release? Does anyone believe it wouldn't be possible for the game to run on the PS4?

You had some decent points Id agree with, but I stopped reading there.

Seen how xbox players got harassed at one release and how they got mocked for 4 months straight with the secret cerny sauce, I can't just take the rest of your post seriously.

Maybe you just weren't around then, but there's a reason Gaf has the nickname Sonygaf.

Many Sony fans ate up the overheating and smoking XSX rumors as well. Plenty of lame behavior all over the places its just that the Sony fans are far more numerous.
 
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Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Just curious outside of the graphics and load times, how is the game any different from the PS3 release? Does anyone believe it wouldn't be possible for the game to run on the PS4?
I think a PS4 version could be made, but it does not exist. It is not just a remaster of the PS3 version though.
 
Why is everyone so fucking crazy thinking that everyone loves sonys games?

Why the fuck would anyone literally buy an Xbox if they'd prefer sonys exclusives?

You guys needs to wake the fuck up instead of being a hiveminded circlejerk. This is equivalent to Resetera, except instead of SJWing people are clapping each others backs because Sony is the best thing since sliced bread.

Why would I play on pc(where sonys games tend to come anyway) or any other platform if I wanted to play on a PlayStation?

Everyone and their soccer mom's know what a PlayStation is. People here know what a PlayStation is. This ain't Japan where the word xbox doesn't even exist.

Why are you guys acting like a Cerny cult, not respecting other people's opinions except your own?

I don't care about sonys games. I can play the Xbox games I want on my pc. And so what? Why am I an enemy to you because I don't enjoy sonys cinematic driven games?
This is not specific to you, but in general to have harassing all knowing people with as much as respect to other people's opinion as Era, who can't accept people not playing on playstation.

You are all laughing at Era, while we have a hardcore dedicated PlayStation group who acts like Era.
And I am aware that there are people like this on all platforms, but just look at this thread alone and see how massive amount of selfish PlayStation posters there are.
Aint saying everyone are like that. You know who you are.
Or, the worst part is I actually even doubt that.

This has nothing to do with what I said. Xbox posters are using arguments like Spider-Man Miles Morales is DLC and Demon’s Souls is a PS3 remaster as a crutch to make it look better for Series X having no games.

In 2021 when 5 new PS5 exclusives come out what will the next crutch be? I don’t care if you don’t like PS games, I care that disingenuous arguments are used to make the PS5 and Xbox situations appear as worse as each other when they aren’t.
 

WakeTheWolf

Member
Got mine today even paid scalpers price like an idiot luckily only 100 extra. But I'm really loving how smooth it is compared to my pc and the future lineup for xbox just appeals to me more. It's a shame not as many japanese titles but I'm glad I bought it
 

The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Many Sony fans ate up the overheating and smoking XSX rumors as well. Plenty of lame behavior all over the places its just that the Sony fans are far more numerous.

I agree 100 percent with that. But with a ratio 4 to 1 will see more extreme fanboys since there's more users.
 
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