R6Rider
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Not only do they give small quip lines, they also don't even move their mouths. On top of that the lines they give you are seemingly random and don't fit the character or situation.
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Opinion: Cyberpunk 2077 is one of the most DISAPPOINTING games ever!
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Not only do they give small quip lines, they also don't even move their mouths. On top of that the lines they give you are seemingly random and don't fit the character or situation.
ToadMan
Member
Which shows how bad PC gaming has become... putting aside the bugs, this just isn’t a particularly great game.
It’s not innovative or particularly interesting. The game mechanics are all stuff we’ve seen before and the world building is incomplete.
wordslaughter
Banned
Are you being serious right now? That's a CGI trailer. It's OBVIOUSLY a CGI trailer.
NathanDiego
Member
For me as well, I am playing the potato version, but graphics and performance is my least concern, because they can fix or I can play the eventual next gen version, but the game just sucks, I am forcing myself to finish because gameplay is mediocre, the main story is fucking boring with a writing teenage level, swear all the time to the point of being cringe and laughing, and the promised deep RPG systems and choices consequences its just not there, also side quest is just mediocre, open world is just window dressing and uninteresting, lets not even talk about NPCs, police and overall lack of attention to details.
Probably the most disappoint game this gen.
Probably the most disappoint game this gen.
wordslaughter
Banned
Why would you say it's not an RPG if you "can't articulate" why it's not an RPG.
And I've really enjoyed the side quests. They are less involved than main quests, but you can say the same about literally any other RPG.
ReBurn
Gold Member
PC doesn't have generations
MiguelItUp
Member
Haven't come across any serious bugs on PC at about 40 hours in, just a few silly B and C bugs. Really enjoying it quite a bit to be honest. Shame that the console launch was such a mess, but I'm sure they'll improve it. Here's to hoping those upcoming patches do wonders for console players.
It's an ambitious game for them, and launching it across all systems the same day was an ambitious goal. One that was clearly too much for them, unfortunately.
I think it's great a game for CDPR, aside from the messy launch, and bugs across all platforms. I just think way too many people had absurd expectations. So many people wanted and expected the game to do X and Y, and it didn't because it was never really meant to. That being said, Night City has a lot to do, and by CDPR standards, it's pretty damn impressive.
It's an ambitious game for them, and launching it across all systems the same day was an ambitious goal. One that was clearly too much for them, unfortunately.
I think it's great a game for CDPR, aside from the messy launch, and bugs across all platforms. I just think way too many people had absurd expectations. So many people wanted and expected the game to do X and Y, and it didn't because it was never really meant to. That being said, Night City has a lot to do, and by CDPR standards, it's pretty damn impressive.
KingXtreme81
Member
And in my near 30 hours on Xbox Series X, Cyberpunk 2077 is absolutely phenomenal. It is not without its problems/bugs and the like, but it is a testament to how good the game is that, despite the many issues it does have, that I am having so much fun with it; that my intrigue in seeing what lies behind every door, around every corner, meet every character and to find out what will happen next with the seemingly endless amount of things to do in this incredible city.
CDPR deserves all of the flak they have received for Cyberpunk's issues, particularly on PS4/XBO. That said I do think we're talking about an incredible game now if played on a capable PC, Series X or PS5, and what could be a masterpiece when they can clean this dirty bitch up.
It is definitely on my short list for GOTY. I'm not ready to give it that title yet, but it is definitely going to contend for it.
CDPR deserves all of the flak they have received for Cyberpunk's issues, particularly on PS4/XBO. That said I do think we're talking about an incredible game now if played on a capable PC, Series X or PS5, and what could be a masterpiece when they can clean this dirty bitch up.
It is definitely on my short list for GOTY. I'm not ready to give it that title yet, but it is definitely going to contend for it.
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cebri.one
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Yeap, good example is side quest. In W3 you had this feeling of influencing this world around you, you could make decisions and those impacted the outcomes. Quest in Cyberpunk, although well written, feel pretty linear and after playing several, start to feel boring as they start to feel like a remake of each other. I don't like the ascension perk/level up system, upgrades through modifications seem way more impactful. The main story line is meh.
However the problem is what is outside of both the main story and quest... there is nothing. In the city you can barely access a handful of buildings, NPCs barely interact... there is nothing much to do.
In my opinion:
- City looks incredible
- Main story is average (nomad)
- Side quests are written fairly well, but start to feel repetitive
- Zero impact on the world around you
- Nothing to do in the city apart from 2-3 very repetitive activities
- Level up system not too good
- Looting, things like clothes, guns and cyberware are nice
- Gunplay I'd say better than average
Issue is not that the game is bad, but it's just that is not close to meet RPG fans expectations.
THEAP99
Banned
It's hard to disagree. Nobody a year ago on this forum would've tell you this would be the underwhelming results of cd PROJEKT RED's hyped project.
Safe to say, too many people on this website focused too much on the social NON-SJW aspects of the game rather than the actual nuts and bolts of what makes a good open world game.
I even created a song dedicated to the launch of Cyberpunk
Safe to say, too many people on this website focused too much on the social NON-SJW aspects of the game rather than the actual nuts and bolts of what makes a good open world game.
I even created a song dedicated to the launch of Cyberpunk
Madflavor
Member
I agree with you to an extent, but I would also say this is not as bad as the bait and switch bullshit Naughty Dog pulled with Joel in the trailers for TLoU2.
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Guilty_AI
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Honestly its not Deux Ex is much of an RPG either, feels more like an immersive sim too.
NathanDiego
Member
"go play on PC" "I am playing the PC version"
Imagine thinking the only problem in this game is the graphics lol
looks incredible 10/10 GOTG
Imagine thinking the only problem in this game is the graphics lol
looks incredible 10/10 GOTG
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wordslaughter
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The game mechanics are all stuff we've seen before? What game has mechanics that you've never seen before in any other game? And is that really a prerequisite for you to enjoy a game? You can't enjoy a game unless it has mechanics you've NEVER seen before? You must not play many games.
And what about the world building is incomplete?
Why not say something instead of saying nothing?
Then what's the problem with this game?
Explain in detail.
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Madflavor
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Ok let's be honest, an 89 is a great score to get on MC. I know you're gonna say an 89 doesn't match the level of hype the game had. True. But who's to say what state this game will be in a couple years from now after all the patches and DLC added. I can't imagine an complete overhaul to the AI, but it's a safe bet there will still be plenty of positive changes made to improve the experience, not to mention whatever we get from the modding community.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
ARE YOU SERIOUES RIGHT NOW?! What the hell is wrong on this forum? Does everyone have fucking super autism where they have to look at something, think "but thats CG" and then stop thinking past any steps further, as there brain shuts down.
If you watch this tottaly made up CGI trailer, most sane people would assume there is some rise up plot line, that you get to buy your own property and can get involved in police chases.
None of those things are in game, in most CGI trailers they at least link to something you can do ingame, it literally attempts to parrot a generic GTA 5 trailer, only diffrence is those trailers you got to do that stuff.
everyone knows CGI does not = ingame shit, but you don't get a free pass on marketing your game with it when you cant do any of the shit shown in those trailers at all.
I don't remember a CGI trailer of the Witcher 3 showing you slicing a king head off and then sitting on his throne followed by some dude saying "this time its your turn to rule".
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THEAP99
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The game at launch needs to be of amazing quality if cd Projekt red want to be considered among the big boys of the industry. Is it a horrible score? No. Is it a downgrade in quality from the witcher 3 and what anyone expected, no? Chances are in won't win goty either next year.
At the end of the day, they launched a product with a lot of slop. And the reviews it got were low enough for the execs to change the bonus system since they knew they wouldn't even meet the original 90+ guideline.
Guilty_AI
Member
I've seem people criticizing some systems or mechanics, but they're usually critics i could honestly make for a lot of other AAA games, including The Witcher 3.
Overall, bugs and poor console performance aside, it seems to give exactly the experience one would expect from a AAA game of the kind, for better or worse.
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Madflavor
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On the other hand given CDPR's track history with supporting their games post release, and the fact that they're well aware their reputation as the Good Guys, just went in the absolute shitter, it's probably a safe bet they're gonna do what they can to improve the game. I'm disappointed it wasn't amazeballs on release, but for a game I waited 8 years for, I'd rather focus my energy on being hopeful that they'll do right by us, instead of getting angry every day and focusing on the negative. There is plenty of good to be found in the game. Really good things in fact. The foundation is there. I'm gonna wait and see what they do with it.
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wordslaughter
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Please give me some examples of games that had you influencing the world. And how does W3 allow you to influence the world more than Cyberpunk? You said that you had "this feeling" of influencing the world around you but then you didn't really explain. Please do.
You're right that you can't go into every building in Night City.... but you can go into A LOT of them. More in Cyberpunk than in GTA V for example.
To be honest I'm not sure we'll ever see a game where you can go into EVERY building - Not at this scale. And if suddenly you could go into every single room you probably wouldn't like it. You'd then complain that most of the rooms feel like copy pastes and that there isn't much to do in each room.... which would be true.
Bombolone
Gold Member
came for this
Grabbed it for PC. No Ragrets. So looking forward to the updates, patches, mods.
Hawking Radiation
Member
People don't give GTA the credit it deserves. It's these small things that make Rockstar games such incredible experiences.
They are by far a better developer than CDPR. GTA vs Cyberpunk is an insult to GTA.
DrumNBassDanTTV
Member
This, stop being a sheep.
Kacho
Member
BusierDonkey
Member
Hey guys I got my hopes up for a game releasing at the end of the worst year ever!
#Phonepunk#
Banned
opinion: it's awesome and you are wrong
cebri.one
Member
Most dialogue options lead to the same conclusion. The variety of outcomes in the Witcher 3 is way higher than in Cyberpunk. Why do you have several dialogue options if it makes no difference at all. Things like that is what made Witcher 3 felt alive.
THEAP99
Banned
Hawking Radiation
Member
You need a quantum computer to play the game the way it's meant to be played. You need big money.
There's a solution though: Sell crack, but that's not safe nor easy solution and definitely not advisable.
RedVIper
Banned
The gameplay in witcher 3 was meh, the gameplay in cyberpunk seems fine.
I just don't get why people expected cp to be a great rpg or a great shooter, those areas weren't their strong suit.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
I'm glad we finally have a thread to discuss why CP2077 is a pos.
Guilty_AI
Member
Not really, no. It seems to run fine on PC, bugs aside. Game only gets extremely demanding if you start to go after stuff like 1440p/4K, +60fps and Ray tracing.
But for a 1080p/30fps experience, seems even a GTX 1070 can run it on ultra stably. Thats better than RDR2's performance already to give an idea.
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Hawking Radiation
Member
It has some promise. It's not all bad.
But it looks to me like it is a project that is too ambitious even for this studio.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Oh right. Sorry I was thinking of the ray tracing and crowd density that needs more powerful hardware but yeah you are right.
I actually (for a brief moment) was researching PC parts for this game these last 2 days so I can plan to build a nice gaming PC and give up PS5 this gen.
Issue is RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 is sold out everywhere.
If i end up building a rig for this game and other future titles, then I want to be able to crank everything up to max.
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wordslaughter
Banned
Are you being serious right now?
Did you watch the trailer?
It starts by sitting down and talking with a fixer - CHECK
You talk about getting supercars and a big house - CHECK
You can definitely get supercars and you can find V's mansion in the game. Maybe there will be more with future DLC
You talk with the fixer about needing cyberware upgrades - CHECK
Then there's a scene of fighting in a hallway with a sword - CHECK
And the last scene is you in a car shooting at flying drones - CHECK
You can do ALL the things from that trailer in the game. But you are here complaining that you can't.
ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW? LOL
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Gusy
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It has the most intricate, detailed and incredible virtual world ever made for a video game. It has a serviceable story. It has pretty good combat. The soundtracks slaps.. More than enough for me to get lost in this world for the next couple of months.
They basically took The Witcher 3 formula and expanded it to the next level. If you liked The Witcher 3 gameplay loop then give this game a chance, you're gonna like it. Just avoid base consoles and be open to some jank throughout the entire experience.
They basically took The Witcher 3 formula and expanded it to the next level. If you liked The Witcher 3 gameplay loop then give this game a chance, you're gonna like it. Just avoid base consoles and be open to some jank throughout the entire experience.
Isendurl
Member
I think this game is diamond in the rough type of situation, similar to games like Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines and Alpha Protocol and I LOVE these games.
Not everybody will like it, but it will have strong community that will improve it in the future with amazing mods.
I can honestly say that I would rather play Cyberpunk on base PS4 then play just one hour of GTA 5 on PC.
Rocktart games are so fucking mind numbingly boring to me, that I would rather even watch paint dry then play GTA 5. (I love GTA 2 though! Still the best GTA game.)
Not everybody will like it, but it will have strong community that will improve it in the future with amazing mods.
I can honestly say that I would rather play Cyberpunk on base PS4 then play just one hour of GTA 5 on PC.
Rocktart games are so fucking mind numbingly boring to me, that I would rather even watch paint dry then play GTA 5. (I love GTA 2 though! Still the best GTA game.)
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Madflavor
Member
I think once the dust settles, time goes by, and enough patches and DLC are added, CP77 will be looked at as a messy flawed game at release, that turned to a great game when all was said and done. I remember something similar happening with New Vegas. I'm hoping the same will happen here.
No I don't think the AI will be fixed. Improved? Probably. But a total overhaul ain't gonna happen. But they most certain can add things like:
No I don't think the AI will be fixed. Improved? Probably. But a total overhaul ain't gonna happen. But they most certain can add things like:
- Revamped UI
- Transmog
- Gun and Car color customization
- New apartments
- New joytoys
- Minigames like gambling, pool, cards, casino (as part of a DLC), etc
- Barber and Rippedoc option to change appearance
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
Dark Brotherhood in Skyrim ? You can wipe them out the second you see them or join them.
Villagers are building villages again after completing a contract and securing the area in Witcher 3?
Helping the Krogans (or not), and tons of other choice in Mass Effect saga ?
Helping the Mayor in Fable 1, mary her and get access to cool side quest ?
That's just some quick examples that comes to my mind, and there is a lot of others.
I was not expecting Cyberpunk to be the perfect game, but the released version has some flaw that are unacceptable, especially after all their broken promises (don't made me do a list, you know what I'm talking about)
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