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[Maiden Voyage]

Not going to happen. Obviously there’s grudges going on right now

Shame. Anyone who wants to chill with me in 2021 is welcome.

 

[Mista]

Shame. Anyone who wants to chill with me in 2021 is welcome.

Not talking about myself. On my way good sir

 

[greyshark]

These past couple weeks have been crazy - but if you're a long time member who has gotten permed, there's no reason you can't reach out after things settle down to make your case to come back. Many other users have done the same in the past.

 

[DESTROYA]

Let's be more like the reggae thread in 2021

But reggae music is a acquired taste that I personally can’t stand it all sounds the same to me

 

[ManofOne]

But reggae music is a acquired taste that I personally can’t stand it all sounds the same to me

What kind of music they got in Greece other than Spartan war drums.

 

[RNK]

It was just banter mate.

Typical blue pill response.

 

[EviLore]

No, I honestly tried to give you some good faith feedback on a community I cared a lot about. I posted here a ton during the exodus and in the days after to try to deter as many people as I could from leaving and to keep this place alive. I thought we had a great opportunity to turn around a legendary gaming site and I bought in on the vision you laid out for us. I've made a greater effort into creating OTs to that end and put a lot of effort into them.

But I guess I'll just take that permaban now instead.

I didn’t ask you for any favors, and I haven’t betrayed you. We don’t know each other.

The guidelines update is reasonable and necessary. How you react to it is your choice. Take care.

 

[DogofWar]

Now that Schrödinger's cat was permed but got it revoked to one month can we say he is both banned and not banned at the same time? (Sorry, just had to...)

Great to see Evilore listened to Boss Mog here, I appreciated his posts and also did not interprete his last post here as harsh as it was recieved.

Wild week(s), I put the entire Politics forum on ignore for now. Better that way, I am here because I love video games after all.

 

[Halo is Back]

Alright fellas. I have come to the decision that I no longer wish to participate in politics. Half of it is because I am afraid I may get emotional and say something stupid but other half is that I honestly enjoy posting on NeoGaf too much. I have a lot of fun here and I don't want some posters who liked me to feel uncomfortable with me anymore for a take I have. There are a lot of posters here I like and I don't want to drive them away.

I have been posting less there anyway and doing some low effort ones too. This past year in my country has been emotionally exhausting for me and I don't see it as particularly healthy for me either. Thanks to those who respected my opinions along the way I appreciate that. Peace and love.

 

[Grand Theft Scratchy]

Now that Schrödinger's cat was permed but got it revoked to one month can we say he is both banned and not banned at the same time? (Sorry, just had to...)

Great to see Evilore listened to Boss Mog here, I appreciated his posts and also did not interprete his last post here as harsh as it was recieved.

Wild week(s), I put the entire Politics forum on ignore for now. Better that way, I am here because I love video games after all.

And that's one thing I like about GAF is that EviLore and co. will listen and maybe reconsider the infractions they hand out to users. I wasn't part of GAF during the split but I think it's safe to say we aren't heading in a similar direction, as long as we continue to have dialogue between the community and people in charge.

 

[Moogle11]

Alright fellas. I have come to the decision that I no longer wish to participate in politics. Half of it is because I am afraid I may get emotional and say something stupid but other half is that I honestly enjoy posting on NeoGaf too much. I have a lot of fun here and I don't want some posters who liked me to feel uncomfortable with me anymore for a take I have. There are a lot of posters here I like and I don't want to drive them away.

I have been posting less there anyway and doing some low effort ones too. This past year in my country has been emotionally exhausting for me and I don't see it as particularly healthy for me either. Thanks to those who respected my opinions along the way I appreciate that. Peace and love.

Wise decision IMO. I wasted so much fucking time and energy arguing politics online in my 20s and early 30s. Realized it was unhealthy and unproductive (too easy to get sucked into arguments and waste hours when I should be working, could be playing games etc.). Just pointless as pretty much no one changes their mind or gives an inch arguing with random people online, even more true these days with how divided people are. I have largely stayed away from talking politics online for nearly a decade now and it’s been a huge positive change. Zero regrets.

I don’t spend much time discussing politics with friends or family in real life either. I just read news, try to stay informed, vote and donate. Beyond that most of it has zero impact on my daily life so no reason for me to be super emotionally invested in it. I’ve had democrats and republicans swap power multiple times in my adult life when I was old enough to pay attention and none of it has had any real effect on my life.

Forums should be a positive, fun thing. If one isn’t getting that out of them (or a specific one) it’s time to reassess how one engages with them. It’s taken me a lot of thinking over the years to break the cycle of forum addiction and just engage with sites and topics that I enjoy. I encourage others to do some soul searching and figure out how to make productive and fun use of them as well. For me it’s mostly sticking to gaming threads (and not fanboy, console warring nonsense) and random fun threads here and there.

Political discussion is fine if one enjoys it and isn’t going off the deep end with the looneys on the extremes on either side. When it stops being fun, informative etc. it’s good to step away for a while, or for good if needed. I’m glad the politics subforum exists here to at least keep that stuff isolated. Throwing it on ignore is among the first things I did when joining and I’m glad to be able to browse off topic, even if I don’t post there that much as I’m here for gaming talk and news, without having to skim past all that crap like back in the day or in my brief stint over on ResetEra.

Neogaf a gaming site and we should all be here to have fun discussing our hobby and random shit in off topic regardless of how different our values and political beliefs are.

 

[Fake]

Smart choise of some staying away from politics.

Really guys, will make wonders to your mental health.

A friendly reminder that sometimes walltexts are necessary, but don't think doing walltexts after walltexts make you smart. Just go to the point.

 

[DeafTourette]

If there was some overtly racist shit that I missed, then sure, I'll stand corrected. I assumed it was for arguing about 1/6, but maybe that was not the case.

He was arguing about racial intelligence... Comparing basically non-white people to chihuahuas ("dumb dogs") and white people to German Shepherds (smart dogs).

 

[DESTROYA]

What kind of music they got in Greece other than Spartan war drums.

That’s all we need

 

[12Goblins]

Agree, and I would probably add @cryptoadam, @Riven326, and @Cybrwzrd to the list.

Sad to see them go. Give them another chance. You are free to be critical and skeptical, but stop peddling conspiracy theories and lying to yourself.

 

[12Goblins]

also someone tell crypto to explore the conspiracy that all conspiracy theories stem from antisemitism

RIP brother you seem like cool dude

 

[TheContact]

It’s pretty crazy the lack of restraint shown in a majority of the people who were banned. I don’t think asking not to post harmful conspiracy theories and dismissing the captiol riot is a big ask

didn’t like SC but I can see how his post implied it was in how the rioters viewed it; he’s smart enough to know he should have clarified though

liberty is pretty far gone from reality but he said he was going to take a break. Could have just booted him from politics. (Unless he asked for perm)

 

[ExpandKong]

didn’t like SC but I can see how his post implied it was in how the rioters viewed it; he’s smart enough to know he should have clarified though

If you can see it, then it seems like it was plenty clear.

 

[nush]

If you can see it, then it seems like it was plenty clear.

He's not American, so from the outside there's a different weight to the events and how they are represented on the outside. I'm not American either.

 

[German Hops]

All of these bans recently:

 

[Halo is Back]

All of these bans recently:

 

[The Pleasure]

Sorry, but the stores ran out pf Mayonnaise. They still have salt and pepper though.

 

[Halo is Back]

Sorry, but the stores ran out pf Mayonnaise. They still have salt and pepper though.

 

[nush]

They still have salt and pepper though.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

No, I honestly tried to give you some good faith feedback on a community I cared a lot about. I posted here a ton during the exodus and in the days after to try to deter as many people as I could from leaving and to keep this place alive. I thought we had a great opportunity to turn around a legendary gaming site and I bought in on the vision you laid out for us. I've made a greater effort into creating OTs to that end and put a lot of effort into them.

But I guess I'll just take that permaban now instead.

You really want to restore gaf and worried about some perma bans?

I still remember when you could catch a ban at turn of a dime and there was no way to return as reg. needed office email address.

It was best, most well behaved gaf. Posts used to be pure entertainment making me laugh out loud in my office.

These days people bicker a bit too much and post cringy fetish stuff cause of loose moderation.

 

[German Hops]

These days people bicker a bit too much and post cringy fetish stuff cause of loose moderation.

 

[nush]

Posts used to be pure entertainment making me laugh out loud in my office.

Have you enjoyed this?

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Start at page one

Stick with it

Enjoy your day.

 

[Halo is Back]

You really want to restore gaf and worried about some perma bans?

I still remember when you could catch a ban at turn of a dime and there was no way to return as reg. needed office email address.

It was best, most well behaved gaf. Posts used to be pure entertainment making me laugh out loud in my office.

These days people bicker a bit too much and post cringy fetish stuff cause of loose moderation.

What are you referring to? There are no fetish threads allowed or are you just referring to the butt and tits thread?

 

[Mista]

You really want to restore gaf and worried about some perma bans?

I still remember when you could catch a ban at turn of a dime and there was no way to return as reg. needed office email address.

It was best, most well behaved gaf. Posts used to be pure entertainment making me laugh out loud in my office.

These days people bicker a bit too much and post cringy fetish stuff cause of loose moderation.

Oh so back to no fun allowed GAF days? Yeah, no. I’d rather fuck off than have those days back

We’re here to have fun with each other and make friends along the way. Not turn into the most thing we criticised all those years, become an echo chamber. Thats called hypocrisy.

 

[Goro Majima]

All of these bans recently:

And people actually think GAF is being too strict! Madness!

 

[Stiflers Mom]

You really want to restore gaf and worried about some perma bans?

I still remember when you could catch a ban at turn of a dime and there was no way to return as reg. needed office email address.

It was best, most well behaved gaf. Posts used to be pure entertainment making me laugh out loud in my office.

These days people bicker a bit too much and post cringy fetish stuff cause of loose moderation.

Are you, by any chance, from North Korea?

 

[Brute]

EviLore Can we please have a Giant Bomb thread if we promise to behave like adults and not get personal in there?

maybe delete the old one which has some unsavoury stuff in there and start a fresh one?

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Oh so back to no fun allowed GAF days? Yeah, no. I’d rather fuck off than have those days back

We’re here to have fun with each other and make friends along the way. Not turn into the most thing we criticised all those years, become an echo chamber. Thats called hypocrisy.

I had much better experience back then.

It wasnt echo chamber by any strech. More like high quality, to the point posts.

 

[EviLore]

EviLore Can we please have a Giant Bomb thread if we promise to behave like adults and not get personal in there?

maybe delete the old one which has some unsavoury stuff in there and start a fresh one?

Hey Brute. Are you speaking on behalf of the group?

 

[Brute]

Hey Brute. Are you speaking on behalf of the group?

Yes! (I think?)

 

[EviLore]

Yes! (I think?)

Alright. Follow up with me in a week or two when things have cooled off and there's been time to evaluate the state of that Dan Ryckert thread.

 

[Brute]

Alright. Follow up with me in a week or two when things have cooled off and there's been time to evaluate the state of that Dan Ryckert thread.

Thank you!

 

[Stiflers Mom]

I had much better experience back then.

It wasnt echo chamber by any strech. More like high quality, to the point posts.

Nice try, Kim!

 

[Peggies]

I have a question concerning a weird comment. Maybe you can help me.
I was told to raise my future child as a "drone of the state". Does anyone know what that means? I'm not even sure if I should feel insulted or if I find the idea of a little baby drone kind of cute.

 

[nush]

I have a question concerning a weird comment. Maybe you can help me.
I was told to raise my future child as a "drone of the state". Does anyone know what that means? I'm not even sure if I should feel insultet or if I find the idea of a little baby drone kind of cute.

He meant the opposite, "You should raise your child to think for himself and use reasoning and evidence to decide if what they are being told is factual". In context is wasn't a particularly positive bit of advice.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Nice try, Kim!

This is ridiculous.

To be clear, i am not happy with how politics section is being moderated. But its exceptional situation so to me is acceptable.

It is expected that it will pass.

 

[Peggies]

He meant the opposite, "You should raise your child to think for himself and use reasoning and evidence to decide if what they are being told is factual". In context is wasn't a particularly positive bit of advice.

Thank you !

(Not sure if you and I are on the same page here, but I won't start another argument about how newspapers and science are all lying bastards.)

 

[cormack12]

I've been watching the changes percolate through the last week or so and kind of just let them unfold. I can't help thinking a lot of people should have just done the same to be honest. I don't really go into politics, I learned ages ago when I was into the sportsworld forums, politics are not really a good addition to most hobbyist/enthusiast boards. They rarely go below surface level issues that are currently in the news cycle, and nowadays it's even worse given twitter and social media. Most of these boards (across all forums) are now just an extension of reaction threads, articles have been replaced with tweets and counter tweets which spawn endless threads. Don't get me wrong, I think some threads are a good fit for this type of update (live and developing events), but when a random tweet is used as evidence for a societal issue and for everyone to just use as a placard for the cause it becomes messy.

A lot of us post here because we are principled people, in that we accept principles have a cost and cause us to self reflect on certain views we hold. But I do think there is a danger whereby people fall into the trap of making that 'principled persona' their own form of identity politics. Whereby to bend in the face of change means to sacrifice eveything you believe you are, and thus it is better to become a martyr for the cause. I think that's why we've seen a few surprising faces choose to leave or go over the top very quickly - and that's not a criticism, it's more a view on where we are holistically.

However, I don't think the new policies or shift in change was ever directed at these individuals (maybe a handful would have had to reign in their partisan threads or phrase their controversial views better), which is where I think it would have been better to maybe see it through first. The 'adapt' phase wasn't applicable to those people in the first instance and they jumped straight to 'react' sadly. The new policy seems to centre around conspiracy theories and context more than anything, avoiding those topics from blowhards who try to create a frenzy. For instance, I would never take any Alex Jones thread seriously or David Icke. I think this is just about replacing volume and weight of support for an argument and placing it against facts and logic.

Personally, I think maybe a 'News and current affairs' title would be better. It's rare there is anything outside the current news cycle and 'Politics' did serve a purpose initially as OT was over run by every stupid update on Brexit, elections but there is very rarely any thread about cultural, societal or policy topics from a higher level than what is currently on the news stations. It would also dilute a lot of the red/blue topics in direct contrast if there are other news items in there that are more general day to day topics. At the moment politics is a battleground of topics that fall into FOR or AGAINST the administration. If there were other news worthy items in there like the recent Indonesian plane crash, COVID 19, broader megathreads about China, space exploration etc. it might round out the animosity in there.

Lastly, I'd say various sites can only moderate and affect policy within the current climates. Sometimes it will be necessary to adjust course based on that. I think GAF is still the 'freest' site I visit in terms of opinions, I intepret what is being asked as a simple request to avoid reposting shite to get loads of replies because everyone gets angry and have a bit of self responsibility when choosing what to post. Not everything needs a topic, and certainly not the latest 'white man sucker punched in Baltimore' tweet, or 'MAGA is full of white supremacists' crowd shots. I think that's all that is being asked for and it seems reasonable.

It's like steering a boat, you oversteer, then you turn back and end up constantly snaking from one side to the other, forever locked in a battle trying to rediscover the centre. You can distance yourself so far from where you want to be, you run past the centre and just arrive at the other end. I think all that's happening is a strong hand is making a little shift that can have a substantial impact on the general health of discussions. GAF is different, and I think that should extend to politics as well, we don't want to look like a twitter war in forum format, or other forums that lose their minds instead of being able to talk it through.

They are my thoughts anyway.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

This is ridiculous.

To be clear, i am not happy with how politics section is being moderated. But its exceptional situation so to me is acceptable.

It is expected that it will pass.

LOL. You got a heart of gold, don't let them take it from you, mate.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

LOL. You got a heart of gold, don't let them take it from you, mate.

Dont you worry about that ...

 

[German Hops]

Will there be bans handed out for "misogynistic" posts going forward, because uh..

 

[nush]

Personally, I think maybe a 'News and current affairs' title would be better.

I've had that exact thought and exact wording. What held me off sharing it was that news stories like Gwneth paltrows exploding vagina candle would be better suited to Off Topic and I've disliked the fact that some news stories have been posted in Politics despite not being political being automatically assigned a political slant. It's something (rebranding) I think to be revisited after the dust has settled.

 

[cormack12]

I've had that exact thought and exact wording. What held me off sharing it was that news stories like Gwneth paltrows exploding vagina candle would be better suited to Off Topic and I've disliked the fact that some news stories have been posted in Politics despite not being political being automatically assigned a political slant. It's something (rebranding) I think to be revisited after the dust has settled.

Yeah obviously we don't want tabloid shite like 'Love Island Star in romp with Sunderland FC youth team'

 

[Brute]

The issue with discussing politics and I’m going to state the obvious here - our views on things are never gonna change someone else’s feelings and how they vote or how they lean politically.

When the attack on the Capitol happened two weeks back it was the first and last time I got involved with a political debate on here. I came away disappointed by some people’s thoughts on stuff but, hey, it’s their thoughts and they’ll probably feel the same about mine.

Basically, talking politics on a website dedicated to gaming, in my opinion, is a futile exercise and our time could be spent talking about games and having fun instead.

I spent five minutes at Era and left because I don’t want to talk about politics within every fucking thread. I can get my dose of politics at a million other places, I don’t need it in my ‘hobby space’ kind of thing.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

and there's been time to evaluate the state of that Dan Ryckert thread