Romulus
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The other ones weren't even close though.
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The other ones weren't even close though.
Aggelos
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Alex Filippenko's take on extra-terrestrial life.
56:11 - Intelligent life in the universe
59:46 - Fermi Paradox
1:09:24 - Finding alien life would be bad news
1:14:20 - UFO sightings
en.wikipedia.org
56:11 - Intelligent life in the universe
59:46 - Fermi Paradox
1:09:24 - Finding alien life would be bad news
1:14:20 - UFO sightings
Alex Filippenko - Wikipedia
INC
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Always Mexico
Been a hot spot every since the solar eclipse in the 90's
No idea wtf that could be, never seen any other videos remotely like that
Foil blowing in the wind......fuck knows.
Romulus
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The only thing I will believe is CGI and planned hoax w actors. The way those people were staring at that thing was like people witnessing something their eyes could not understand and for it to have symmetry, almost like a giant brain with flickering electrons.
To me, if it's real, I would guess it's some primitive form of drone or time travel. Far beyond us though. Thousands of years. A first generation unit that works but is somewhat crude in that it can't conceal itself.
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Aggelos
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buizel
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U.S. Navy Has Patents on Tech It Says Will ‘Engineer the Fabric of Reality’
The U.S. Navy's “UFO patents” sound like they've been ripped from a science fiction novel.
www.vice.com
I just made this thread but .. well....
US Navy casually saying they now literally have gravity wave modifiers, which is the theorized tech from all these conspiracy theorists about how UFO's travel. Bob Lazar and countless other declassified docs...
Look forward to crazy tech happening this year! Maybe we won't get to know about it's full usage...
buizel
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"Some" of the technology , that could mean one of the connectors or a pcb board is operational, still doesn't mean anything
Corporations patent shit all the time , just incase the tech becomes viable.
Its cool none the less but it doesn't hold much water still
MilkyJoe
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INC
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its either some dude on one of those seaways, wrapped in a foil blanket
Or
It looks like those smoke ufos i posted a few pages ago, or at least similar behaviour in terms of how it seems to morph
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
lol 30 years of the old lady recording videos and taking photos... and all there is is some lens flare and glitches on some frames... usual for a film.
So yeah - that's why we don't see ghosts and aliens anymore. WE DONT RECORD ON FILM !!!! lol
INC
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lol 30 years of the old lady recording videos and taking photos... and all there is is some lens flare and glitches on some frames... usual for a film.
So yeah - that's why we don't see ghosts and aliens anymore. WE DONT RECORD ON FILM !!!! lol
Yeh paranormal shit like ghosts, im not really into, not against it, if there's compelling evidence, there has been a few odd videos tho
For example
The Disney ghost (3:29mins), can ignore the rest on the video
Now not saying its a ghost, but its an odd video that ticks the boxes for a paranormal event, or its just lens flares, does look like someone walking tho
The hotel screamer
Again, an odd video
Could be a hoax, or a promo for something tho
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Aggelos
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Featuring interviews with Martin Rees, Frank Drake, Lawrence Krauss, Gregory Benford, and Jaron Lanier.
Martin Rees - Wikipedia
Frank Drake - Wikipedia
Lawrence Krauss - Wikipedia
Gregory Benford - Wikipedia
Jaron Lanier - Wikipedia
INC
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heres a fun documentary on the subject
of course, take with a pinch of salt
crop circle for me, are just a wonder no matter what, if its some dudes, doing it for a prank, then thats equally as impressive
the argument that theyer too large for someone to do in the dark, i use to think was a valid point, until i saw this, now i see how more likely it is, that its just a hoax (thats decades old and still going)
its just factrals, a plan, and some string
problem solved
Aggelos
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Insane Metal
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Romulus
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That's a dude skating wearing some LED jacket. FFS.
CGI with actors most likely.
infinitys_7th
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Almost every dot they can see has basically the same resources, though. They could estimate what elements are there by analyzing the stars as well if they want more of the heavier ones or lighter ones, but the basic stuff is everywhere in the galaxy as long as you have the tech to get there.
An alien civilization needing resources specifically from Earth is ridiculous tbh.
infinitys_7th
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Yep, there is some obvious chroma key effect there, along with a fake shadow that is too rounded and smooth to match the object. The gliding movement is from a dolly.
MilkyJoe
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Did I tell you guys I saw one of these
Liquid water? Breathable atmosphere? Interesting locals? Cheese?
Liquid water? Breathable atmosphere? Interesting locals? Cheese?
Shadowplay1979
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I see lots of videos posted here of grainy potato footage which never have any source or links to or explanation where they are from. Just add corny ominous music to your youtube channel and fonts expressing how its a giant coverup by the feds!
Crop circles are the absolute worst tho. The guys who started them came and showed exactly how they started hoaxing in the 70s...and they never happened before the 70s except 1-2 old sketches people try and claim are crop circles from the 1600s..they are not.
Yet here we are still claiming aliens are coming down and making them because dumb monkey humans have no way to make....marks in a wheat field. Thats the problem with all these nonsense claims...like ancient aliens crap...the idea that humans are too dumb to do things by themselves, they need alien watchers, guardian angels to teach them how to move large stones or identify distant stars. Believe it or not, people from thousands of years ago were trying to figure out the world around them and how to do things..the only difference is they didnt have tv getting in the way. people worked for survival but they did have time and there were people, just like today who had the position in life to work things out.
You said its not CGI its n1996 ..no way anyone could ever make cg like that in 1996. People were using computers in film before Jurassic park....honestly that level of computer tech isnt really much beyond what they did on westworld in the 1970s.
except...it was a hoax...and it was made by someone working in special fx. John Wabe who worked at Bristol Studio...thats the real name of John Whaley, they guy who said he took the video. Some of the transitions used in the video are pretty apparent. And "experts" whatever that means dont agree, most see right through it.
Not trying to be harsh, i just see lots of videos culled from these corny youtube channels with zero context or sourcing...like that mexican one. If you want aliens to be real so bad, prove it to yourself by finding the video with context and not filmed on a potato. Rule of thumb, if anyone sees an actual ufo these days with their instant phone cameras better then digital SLRs from the 2000s they will try and film it as accurate as they can, for as long as they can and as clear as they can, not at weird angles, behind windows with obvious glares on them or through a filtered lens.
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This is what happens when a person with pretty much 0 understanding of physics meets highly complex scientific terminology salad.U.S. Navy Has Patents on Tech It Says Will ‘Engineer the Fabric of Reality’
The U.S. Navy's “UFO patents” sound like they've been ripped from a science fiction novel.
I just made this thread but .. well....
US Navy casually saying they now literally have gravity wave modifiers, which is the theorized tech from all these conspiracy theorists about how UFO's travel. Bob Lazar and countless other declassified docs...
Look forward to crazy tech happening this year! Maybe we won't get to know about it's full usage...
Gravity wave modifiers idiots like Lazar talked about? First of all, there's no mention of modifier, but generator. Secondly, you should learn what gravitational waves are in the context of general relativity and these patents before you try to connect some kind of dots. Lazar and his ramblings about his made up gravitational waves is something completely different from GWs Einstein theorised.
In reality all you need is 2 accelerating masses to generate gravitational waves according to Einstein. And no, those are not some waves that transfer gravitational force itself and makes you fall towards things like that clown Lazar was telling. He was explaining gravity like it's an EM field which is utter horeshit.
You are in way over your head.
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V4skunk
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Well I've been posting these US Navy patents here for a while.
You have not even read the patent for the gravity generator.
Salvatore Cezar Pais Inventions, Patents and Patent Applications - Justia Patents Search
USPTO patent applications submitted by and patents granted to Salvatore Cezar Pais
patents.justia.com
infinitys_7th
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Liquid water is just a thermodynamic state. Ice is just fine if they need water.
Breathable atmosphere is subjective - we have no idea if a theoretical civilization would use oxygen->carbon dioxide respiration. They may just be machines by the time they could find us.
They could want to interact with other life, but our detectable signal footprint in the galaxy is around 120 LY or so, from our first radio usage. The speed of light hinders information transfer. That's going to translate to a tiny fraction of the total volume of the galaxy which can detect us.
I will say, I'd travel the galaxy for some good 20 year cheddar.
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Romulus
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Theres zero actual evidence of any of that. The guy supposedly made the vid on one day and making a equivalence to Jurassic park(which took years and a huge staff) doesn't work for me.
I mean the cia has outright admitted to disinformation. 'You john, since this vid got out, you're a cgi expert now." Or hell, just allude to that. Bam, suddenly that's enough to make people feel safe again or discredit. Nothing to see here.
Again, not saying that's what happen, but we have no idea. You don't agree with "experts" that reviewed the tape but why would you believe the other source? Theres no trace of hard evidence, I've looked.
And yeah, I would agree that either the vast majority or all of crop circles are fake. Also, I never said CGI was impossible. I know because I don't use that language with the unknown.
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showernota
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I’m not knowledgeable, but there has been a group doing research on crop circles that finds evidence they’re not all pranks with planks
m.huffpost.com
www.johnsoncitypress.com
TonyRogers.com | Biophysicist W. C. Levengood's Crop Circle Reports
Tony Rogers, personal info about weapons, space, adventure and twisted tales.
tonyrogers.com
BLT Research -- Plant Abnormalities
The BLT Research Team -- scientific documentation and reports of physical changes in plants and soils at crop circle sites.
www.bltresearch.com
Crop Circle Microwave Anomalies Acknowledged By Scientists
Recent headlines claim science can explain crop circles, which has frustrated many who believe that crop circles cannot be created by humans, but by forces much more mysterious. However, I think it is great that scientists have acknowledged the available evidence.
Crop circle found in Gray hay field
It’s barely visible from the road, but a crop circle that appeared in a field off Old Gray Station Road is unmistakable from above.
buizel
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There's videos of crop circles from the 60s where you can see them being formed in real time by orbs of light.
I'm sure someone will call it fake tho lol
buizel
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Wow you're so smart. Must feel amazing being so smart and condescending!! How many masters degrees do you have ?? Let's play the condescending game!!
heres my phd
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Westcliff
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The guys who claimed to be the originators of the first crop cycles are most likely fakers. They were not able to reproduce any of the complex circles they've claimed to be the creators and their circles had very obvious errors. Also their story is contradictory and in many way really silly, like the idea that they used a pole to vault into the fields, when there were no footprints. Most likely they were after the prize money that was offered for solving the mystery of the crop circles.
Also simple crop circles have appeared before the 70s and not only on the UK, where those two guys are from. There's for example a news paper article from the 60s about one in the US.
Surely many crop circles are man-made, but to completely dismiss the phenomenon based on that is like to attribute every one of them to Aliens without checking the facts.
Like so many things in our world there's no simple answer. Many are man-made, but some are not so easily explained.
If your are interested in the facts then please watch these videos. It's a very good and a low-key approach to this phenomenon.
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zeomax
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The same happens when people don't understand the meaning of some military or government terminology.
For example in this video they are talking about "off-world devices". But what this means is simply a device which is made to operate outside the planet. So basically every satellite.
showernota
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The quote in that video is "off-world vehicles not made on this earth." That is very different from "off-world devices."
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zeomax
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Because the part "not made on this earth" was so wrong and misquoted that the The New York Times had to put a correction to their article.
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You know what's common in all crop circles? They are on the fields with tractor tracks for easy way to and from the site. Great way to hide your own tracks to the site.
Another thing is how simple they started off and eventually evolved into more complex structures over the years. Suggesting the process of learning and evolving. Sounds like any other human practice, art.
They started in the UK and are mostly only there.
Another thing is how simple they started off and eventually evolved into more complex structures over the years. Suggesting the process of learning and evolving. Sounds like any other human practice, art.
They started in the UK and are mostly only there.
showernota
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The quote in the video is from an Eric Davis, not Harry Reid.
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zeomax
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They use the tracks for orientation.
Here is a little tutorial how to use tracks to create complex figures.
Romulus
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I don't see anything that remotely suggests he's talking about satellites here.
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zeomax
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I did't say he was talking about satellites. It was only an example what in military speech off-world means. NASA refer to their Mars Rovers also as an off-world vehicle.
Romulus
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None of that makes sense though. If we recover anything from another country, secret satellite, rover, military vehicle, of course, we would study it. There seems to be an obvious distinction here.
Aggelos
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Jill Tarter and Douglas Vakoch
Go SETI!
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
Go SETI!
Douglas Vakoch - Wikipedia
Jill Tarter - Wikipedia
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'Best UFO Video In Years' Shows Flying Saucer Speed Away And Return | iHeart
The video was taken from a plane that had left Chicago. | iHeart
StormCell
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'Best UFO Video In Years' Shows Flying Saucer Speed Away And Return | iHeart
The video was taken from a plane that had left Chicago. | iHeartwww.iheart.com
I don't think this video is getting enough love here. Gotta admire the skeptics who are quick to declare it a fake because of things easily observed in the video that they seemingly missed. "Yeah right, like a UFO is just going to appear because a girl happens to have her phone out and recording out the window of her plane. FAKE!"
Romulus
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'Best UFO Video In Years' Shows Flying Saucer Speed Away And Return | iHeart
The video was taken from a plane that had left Chicago. | iHeart
I would guess cgi by the looks of it. Not only that it seems to really be inspired by the us navy account, shape, almost teleportation speed.
Another problem I have with it is hoe casual she is about it. That thing is obviously out of the norm.
INC
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Well screaming and sounding there's a ufo outside, on a plane, probably isn't a great idea either
I'll go with cgi for now, until someone does an analysis on it
Romulus
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Yeah I just mean her general casual reaction. "This thing is literally teleporting." Yet shes talking completely normal like she saw a landmark.
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