If I would have to explain the difference to you it’s not worth it. Because Joel is such an unique character who’s look and race plays a big part right? Only a white man can have a life like Joel’s right? He’s a regular Joe blow at the end of the day. A better actor is a plus whoever they’re able to cast regardless of his look.I agree. Being a good actor should be the only thing that matters.
That's why i would love Joe Pesci to play Abby.
I demand Marlene be played by a white woman then!
Just kidding. Definitely interested in this shos. I wonder if the concept of clickers will be in the show. Or is is just plain old zombies?
But this character isn't one that's like Joel.Only a white man can have a life like Joel’s right.
I agreeInteresting.
To be dead honest, I don't think he's a "great" actor. He's been solid in a couple roles though. Maybe I am just still trying to wash the WW84 shit taste out of my mouth (Chris Pine is legit the only good performance in that movie).
Looking forward to seeing how the development progresses.
Decent choice. How is he with accents though? Its not Joel without the Southern drawl
But this character isn't one that's like Joel.
This character is Joel, lol.
If you wanted a different character with a similar story... you could just use a different character with a similar story.
He did great in Game Of Thrones, I think he will do fine in this. If they feel he can pull it off, I trust what they see in his audition.
Meh choice. I don't think he would give a good performance as Joel tbh.
That isn't to say he's a bad actor, but seems like a potential miscast going off his past character performances.
I don't support race-swapping historic figures either.eh, very inter-changeable character
and you act like this is some new thing, i'm sure if we tallied how many historically ethnic characters were turned white....it would far out weigh the shit you guys are complaining about lol
so yeah, who gives a fuck, joel isn't some historic character and can easily be retold or interchanged with like...anything. in fact...it'd be more interesting
If you wanted a different character
But i do love the double standards of the people defending this.
If it was the other way around, the same people would sing a different song
I don't support race-swapping historic figures either.
Joel is an established character. Doesn't matter if his race/gender plays any significant role for you or not. It's already established how he looks/acts.
For me, changing established characters this way is bad because it's not canon. Simple as that.
Hugh Jackman could've been an amazing Joel.I preffered hugh jackman but this is a good choice
He would have nailed the singing parts tooHugh Jackman could've been an amazing Joel.
His performance in the film 'Prisoners' convinces me of that.
His performance
maybe in some alternate reality, but you and your cosigners are plain fools. In fact its the exact opposite, one is changing History with a false narrative, while the other is a false narrative (aka video game) changed because it was never based in reality to begin with. Nice attempt at trying to rationalize your lack of reticence with white washing. Not gonna fly here sir.guy is a great actor, but come on....this is the same as white washing...
it feels like half of era is there to troll. these people cant be real.Poor dude!
it feels like half of era is there to troll. these people cant be real.
Maybe Ronda Rousey?So this, along with the last 24 hours, pretty much cements that we aren't getting Gina Carano as Abby, right?
Love Bella Ramsey.
Good to hear they came to their senses with Joel.
Joel isn't white for some grand artistic reason, or a reason that is integral to anything... Joel is white, brown haired and bearded because that's what sells....Wasn't there a black father and son characters in the game? Should play the father and offer more story
Wasn't there a black father and son characters in the game? Should play the father and offer more story
meh, hell they can be asian...them being black had no impact on the story either. those characters can be middle eastern and it would be the same story lolWasn't there a black father and son characters in the game? Should play the father and offer more story
Probably a joke post but Abby wasn’t in the first game.So this, along with the last 24 hours, pretty much cements that we aren't getting Gina Carano as Abby, right?
Only thing "established" is his name is Joel and his actions. The game never talked about his race to argue it MUST remain the same for the story or any weird shit.
You ever see him in Game of Thrones? He did a very good job in this one scene with Peter Dinklidge (Tyrion) in a cell. Its in Season 4 ep.7.I agree
He has charisma off the charts
But Joel needs gravitas
Lets see if he can pull it off
artistically, they probably wanted to have a different race from the start lol they just didn't because in the video game world, having a black dude with a white little girl on the cover would lose fucking sales. movies not so much, but gaming? too many white gamers in america so...most main characters have to be white, hence we have the CJ complaints all over again.
I'm all for a race change if it actually makes the story more interesting, or if it was kind of an artistic choice or improvement, in this case...i see it as a potential artistic choice. So much more interesting of a dynamic.
for example if bioshock infinite was released with a black character instead of booker, that would be more interesting than the original source material considering the climate of Columbia so I'd take that in a heart beat. Imagine having to pretend to be Elizabeth's hired help or something as you walk through shops with her just to get by.
but then again some people get all insecure about the thought of their ancestors being racist and probably wouldn't like it lol what a loss.
I think your on the wrong site dude.Joel isn't white for some grand artistic reason, or a reason that is integral to anything... Joel is white, brown haired and bearded because that's what sells....
I think what many (likely white people here lets be honest) are failing to understand is that WHITE, is DEFAULT in america, want a blank slate character? he's gonna be white, want to not lose any sales? make him white. so when they change it, there's likely a good chance there actually is some artistic experimentation going on...so long as him being white isn't integral to the plot like american history X or something.
Joel isn't...anything, that character can be a Boston born Filipino lol
Wait, why is the name "Joel" so important? Couldn't he be the same character if he had a different name? By your own logic?
What do you mean "the game never talked about" his race? Someone has to "tell" you, with words? The game showed that he is white. Using video instead of sound. Why is one more important than the other?
You are just cherry-picking here. If you are Ok with changing his race, you should be OK with changing his name.
I think your on the wrong site dude.
Joel is white, brown haired and bearded because the creators made him that way. I think fans just want someone that is good and can look close to the source material.
Straying too far from the original can create a little cognitive dissonance for anyone close to the games.
You are right, he could be a Filipino if he looks and sounds just like Joel from the games.