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Console exclusives on pc : when is best?

Console exclusives on pc business wise

  • Day 1

    Votes: 73 57.9%
  • 1 year later

    Votes: 10 7.9%
  • 2 years later

    Votes: 12 9.5%
  • 3 years later

    Votes: 3 2.4%
  • 4 years

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • 5 years later which is end of the generation.

    Votes: 11 8.7%
  • Never release console exclusives on pc

    Votes: 16 12.7%

  • Total voters
    126

skneogaf

Member
Nowadays xbox release their exclusive games on pc day one which has reduced the need for me to buy an xbox as I mainly play on pc.

Sony are now starting to release their exclusive games on pc a couple of years after they launched on playstation which means I still feel the need to buy a playstation sooner.

My question is what is the best business decision for exclusives to be released on pc release date wise in your opinions?
 
if it's day 1 i'll happily pay full price. if sony want to treat PC gamers like shit by waiting years to release it then they can fucking whistle. i'll grab the game dirt cheap even if it means waiting longer.

ms has the right idea by releasing them both at the same time. i'll be getting Halo on PC the same day it comes out on Xbox. i'm already playing Flight Simulator on my PC and it isn't even out on Xbox yet. I know Sony doesn't own a major PC OS but that ain't no excuse. if Sony wanted my money they'd let me buy it day 1 on PC.

it's either £60 day 1 or £10 after 2-3 years. what would you want?
 
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My question is what is the best business decision for exclusives to be released on pc release date wise in your opinions?
I don't think the answer to "best business decision" is independent of time and context, though. It might be different for different companies at different points in time under different circumstances and different corporate strategies.
 

MastaKiiLA

Member
For Sony, it's once sales of the game have plateaued on the console. That's if a system-seller is to still have value as such.

If they plan on downsizing their hardware business, then shortening the release cycle would make sense. From the sound of it, legacy titles means they'll only port after plateau.
 
I don't care for pc, but let beggars have a taste of what they've been missing on the console's way out.

you know day 1 is not possible, their hardware just won't run it.
who wants to play a game of Spot The Fanboy??

anyway, i already played Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, TLOU, etc. so i aint been missing out on anything. Sony already has my money but if they want more of it they will put it out on PC. Even if they release it on PC day 1 i'd have double dipped.
 
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mxbison

Member
Windows PC = Microsoft.

It's not a different eco system like it is for Sony. Can't really compare it like that.
 
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From a business perspective I think day 1 makes the most sense. The fact is that many PC gamers only play on PC, similar to many console gamers playing only console. The percentage of people who have the newest PC and the newest consoles is actually quite slim (hardcore gamers are a small percentage of total gaming population). By putting your games on PC day 1 you can advertise to a much larger audience from day 1. If your game is a hit that everyone is talking about then availability on more platforms equals greater sales
 
they are getting more WINDOWS pcs out there and keep their OS business in high demand. that = MONEY
implying most people actually pay full price for Windows licenses :messenger_tears_of_joy:

you do know you can use Windows 10 for free, right? you just have a watermark on your desktop wallpaper and can't change the apperance of the OS. everything else functions as normal.

you do know that you don't need to buy Windows 10 directly from MS, right? MS wants £119 for Windows 10 Home. i paid £45 for Windows 10 Pro (MS want £219 for it).
 

HoofHearted

Member
My vote is Day 1 - exclusivity is absurd.

Give me options to play the game on my personal choice of hardware and distribution channel.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
implying most people actually pay full price for Windows licenses :messenger_tears_of_joy:

you do know you can use Windows 10 for free, right? you just have a watermark on your desktop wallpaper and can't change the apperance of the OS. everything else functions as normal.

you do know that you don't need to buy Windows 10 directly from MS, right? MS wants £119 for Windows 10 Home. i paid £45 for Windows 10 Pro (MS want £219 for it).

seriously? I mean you understand how platforms work right? Why there are free platforms for anythying around the world. free tv. free games... ect.. think about it for a moment.
 

djkimothy

Member
If you’re a platform holder. it doesn’t make sense for Sony to do a simultaneous release. This is a complicated one but for Sony it would be a year or two later.

For MS, getting people to game on PC or xbox is still a win for them considering people has paid license for Windows or an xbox console.

The answer is more nuanced than people think and there’a no one size fits all solution. It all depends on market position, whether you’re a platform holder or just a publisher.
 
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seriously? I mean you understand how platforms work right? Why there are free platforms for anythying around the world. free tv. free games... ect.. think about it for a moment.
yeah i know smartass. Windows ain't a free platform. if Sony put games on PC yeah that's gonna strengthen the appeal of PC gaming but Sony don't own a PC OS so what's your fucking point?
 

HoofHearted

Member
If you’re a platform holder. it doesn’t make sense for Sony to do a simultaneous release. This is a complicated one but for Sony it would be a year or two later.

For MS, getting people to game on PC or xbox is still a win for them considering people has paid license for Windows or an xbox console.

The answer is more nuanced than people think and there’a no one size fits all solution. It all depends on market position, whether you’re a platform holder or just a publisher.
Depends entirely on one’s definition of what a “platform” is…

MS is currently and actively changing their “platform“ definition….

EDIT: Hell - they’ve been actively adjusting and changing their core business model for the past decade now…. its amazing how so many here still think so narrowly with respect to Microsofts revenue streams.
 
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Gaelyon

Gold Member
Never. Console exclusive games must be designed for the console, exploiting it's full power and functionalities. If you allow day one PC, your games have to be design from scratch as PC games. And then your console is just a low cost PC. That's MS strategy and i don't like it. Sony and Nintendo must continue designing consoles with unique features and games designed exclusively for it.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
yeah i know smartass. Windows ain't a free platform. if Sony put games on PC yeah that's gonna strengthen the appeal of PC gaming but Sony don't own a PC OS so what's your fucking point?

Sony makes money, MS makes money, Gamers have more options. Its all around a much better situation is the point.
 
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MastaKiiLA

Member
From a business perspective I think day 1 makes the most sense. The fact is that many PC gamers only play on PC, similar to many console gamers playing only console. The percentage of people who have the newest PC and the newest consoles is actually quite slim (hardcore gamers are a small percentage of total gaming population). By putting your games on PC day 1 you can advertise to a much larger audience from day 1. If your game is a hit that everyone is talking about then availability on more platforms equals greater sales.
There are more factors than that. How much will same day PC releases impact console sales? The piracy factor plays into this. It's much harder to pirate a console game then a PC game. So they will lose out to console+PC gamers who opt to pirate a copy of the game instead of buying it on either platform.

Also, development cost, as a like for like port makes no sense as the generation progresses. PC hardware outpaces the console side, so you run the risk of damaging the brand with subpar same day ports that aren't optimized to compete with other contemporary games on the PC side.

So, you can increase development cost to optimize for PC, but it incurs overhead on a project that isn't guaranteed success yet, which increases risk. Considering they make a lot of big budget games, that's a lot of risk of the game meets commercial failure.

By waiting for the sales to plateau, they can pick from the titles that have bonafide demand. Since the games are old by now, they can get away with ports that lack polish against contemporary PC titles, because it's understood to be a legacy title, so the comparison is made to the console version from the past, rather than the best and brightest on the PC at that time. They can devote a smaller team to handle the port as well, which lowers risk, should reception be lukewarm on PC.

There are other factors, but it all depends from protecting the HW business. There's a lot of revenue that is tired directly to the HW. PS+ is an earner, and that service isn't going to fly on PC. Cannibalizing that to jump full force into PC swimming pool doesn't make a ton of sense. If they intend on maintaining the HW side of things, then same day releases just don't make sense. MS has never had the same success that Sony has had on the hardware side, so their interests are different. They see more value in services, so same day releases make more sense for them. That and Windows is their platform. They have a vested interest in furthering engagement with that platform. Sony going same day would move them into third party territory, which is the tricky business that sees even large firms like Bethesda being sold. Valve and Epic have avoided that by creating their own platforms in the form of storefronts, so I don't see Sony abandoning the rather lucrative platform they've spent decades building.
 
Never. Console exclusive games must be designed for the console, exploiting it's full power and functionalities. If you allow day one PC, your games have to be design from scratch as PC games. And then your console is just a low cost PC. That's MS strategy and i don't like it. Sony and Nintendo must continue designing consoles with unique features and games designed exclusively for it.
Nintendo you have an argument, but Sony and Microsoft just made low cost PCs and always will from now.

The fight is over who made the better low cost PC, the rest is just buzzwords and bullshit.
 

GreatnessRD

Member
Sony will not release Day 1 because they need to sell hardware units.
They're gonna sell the hardware regardless. I always found this theory as an excuse. PC Gaming is becoming more and more accessible, so now Sony wants to dip their feet in the water. But back to my point of their console will sell regardless of it being on PC day 1 or not. I personally don't mind them waiting and giving the PC users the 'definitive' version of their exclusive games that are better optimized for PC anyway.
 

mxbison

Member
Did you read the second sentence I wrote?

Yes, and it had nothing to do with what I said. I said you can't compare those two since Windows PC is Microsoft eco system.

It doesnt matter if Microsoft directly makes money from Sony Steam sales, they have plenty of other reasons to want you there.

Sony's sole reason to put a game on pc is the sales revenue, nothing else. That's why it doesn't make sense to compare them.
 
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MastaKiiLA

Member
Console gamers buy Sony consoles to play games Day 1.

Why would Sony release their games on PC Day 1 and affect their hardware sales?

PCMR living in Cuckoo land. You only getting last gen ports.
I agree with most of this, but not the last gen ports. I think we will see PS5 games ported, but like Days Gone, it will be after the game no longer pushes new HW sales. As long as a game is moving PS5s off the shelves, it makes no sense to port it, as PS5s will soon be making money for each unit sold. The sales on the PC side aren't guaranteed to outweigh the additional revenue streams a sold console has, which can spawn multiple game sales, MTX, and subscriptions.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
Yes, and it had nothing to do with what I said. I said you can't compare those two since Windows PC is Microsoft eco system.

It doesnt matter if Microsoft directly makes money from Sony Steam sales, they have plenty of other reasons to want you there.

Sony's sole reason to put a game on pc is the sales revenue, nothing else. That's why it doesn't make sense to compare them.
Plenty of other reasons? Such as? The os is the only thing from a gamers perspective you need from ms.
 
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