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[DF] The Last Guardian PS5 Runs At 60FPS... But How? And What's The Catch?

TLZ

Banned
And that’s another reason why physical copy is still king. It’s the same with God of War, it runs 4K @ 60fps on the PS5, when you use the disc and don’t update the game.
What's it like after the update?

Edit: Nevermind, just read your other post.

But wait, I remember there being a performance mode right? What resolution is that one on?
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
So why do you think Sony is just simply overlooking this super easy good will gesture here? It'll be the equivalent to having a $100 million ad campaign if they updated all their biggest\best games to be 60fps or 4K\60fps.
goodwill means nothing to Sony. these games are old and have already been sold and it comes down to how many extra sales they can project base on this new feature. the answer is not many.

i legtimally think this is maybe $10k worth of dev and QA time at most. but they have to show that they can sell $10k worth of new copies of this game just because a 60 fps version was patched. gow already has a 60 fps version. these games simply wont sell thousands of new copies just because they added a 60 fps version. you either already have gow and tlou or you dont, and a 60 fps patch wont convince you to buy it.

if anything, they will sell more physical versions to digital owners since thats the only way to play it.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
goodwill means nothing to Sony. these games are old and have already been sold and it comes down to how many extra sales they can project base on this new feature. the answer is not many.

i legtimally think this is maybe $10k worth of dev and QA time at most. but they have to show that they can sell $10k worth of new copies of this game just because a 60 fps version was patched. gow already has a 60 fps version. these games simply wont sell thousands of new copies just because they added a 60 fps version. you either already have gow and tlou or you dont, and a 60 fps patch wont convince you to buy it.

if anything, they will sell more physical versions to digital owners since thats the only way to play it.

Think of the extra sales they'll get from future PS5 games "IF" gamers felt they'd get updates in the future to make them even better (and for free). And if it's as cheap as you think it will be, it's a no-brainer. And the bolded is WHY they should update these games and put those versions on the PS Store.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
So why do you think Sony is just simply overlooking this super easy good will gesture here? It'll be the equivalent to having a $100 million ad campaign if they updated all their biggest\best games to be 60fps or 4K\60fps.
Because it isn't super-easy.

It takes time, manpower and money. 3 commodities that are not infinite in supply and as such need to be triaged for maximum benefit.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Because it isn't super-easy.

It takes time, manpower and money. 3 commodities that are not infinite in supply and as such need to be triaged for maximum benefit.

A poster above said it'll cost like $10,000 to do and maybe 1 or so people. That doesn't sound expensive to me.
 

NXGamer

Member
So no other source is allowed to make this discovery ?
DF goes even deeper with the analysis even if it's thanks to NXGamer NXGamer discovery !
And holy shit I love this game. Can't wait for my ps5 to replay it.
What is the deeper insight into this one?

*I cannot watch at moment as flying a Plane.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
What is the deeper insight into this one?

*I cannot watch at moment as flying a Plane.
He shows framerate overlays over ps4 pro 4k, 1080p versions and over patched and unpatched ps5 versions. Also speaks a bit about 1.03 patch changelog like Added HDR and changed stick sensitivity.
Even shows the ini file with the cap
Your video was enough for me anyway and I like watching your channel. Hope You will explore more bc once there are more interesting titles.
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
Such ideas are obviously free market....cough #rejectCommunism #freedom CON-STITUTION

It's not about them not allowed to talk about it, it's just giving credit to the one got the game exposed first. Not so hard if they're not bloated by their ego.
 
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What’s the difference between the OG and the latest patch version of the game?! I’m willing to bet: fuck all... apart from some minor bug fixes etc.

Patched version has NG+. I've beaten GOW multiple times and if I were to replay the game again, it would be a GMGOW NG+ playthrough. The game is a lot more fun when Kratos has all his abilities from the start.
 
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Self

Member
Yes, it’s best to turn off automatic updates altogether! Just update the games you want manually

That didn't work for me. The game still updated to newest version on next restart... Had to deactivate the internet connection altogether.

Plus the game freezes in 60fps mode around to 4-5 times within specific cut scenes. So you will have to reinstall the patch play through that scene and reinstall the disc version. Not cool, but manageable.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
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That didn't work for me. The game still updated to newest version on next restart... Had to deactivate the internet connection altogether.

Plus the game freezes in 60fps mode around to 4-5 times within specific cut scenes. So you will have to reinstall the patch play through that scene and reinstall the disc version. Not cool, but manageable.
Wait... so the game is unfinishable without a patch ?
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Yes. I know of 2 people who had the exact same problem in the exact same scenes. So it's reasonable to assume it's a game logic thing.
which scene? how far into the game ?
Well, 1890p 30fps is still an upgrade for me... I played the game on slim. that is 1080p 24 fps :D
 
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Self

Member
which scene? how far into the game ?
Well, 1890p 30fps is still an upgrade for me... I played the game on slim. that is 1080p 24 fps :D
Somewhere in the middle, when Trico tries to catch you from a crumbling bridge. It only happens in scripted sequeces, never 'in-game'.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
A poster above said it'll cost like $10,000 to do and maybe 1 or so people. That doesn't sound expensive to me.
10k isn't going to cover the QA cycle necessary to test any change that affects the entirety of a game across multiple system configs.

Publicly traded companies can't fly by the seat of their pants like solo or independent developers/enthusiasts can. There are a lot of things that can go wrong, which isn't to say that they will, but avoidance of creating new issues is of major concern to a platform holder.

The reality is that this behaviour most likely never came to light during the PS5 compatibility process because Sony could not expend resources testing TLG in any form other than the fully patched one. So the assumption that they are/were aware of this is dubious to begin with, let alone set plans in place to further patch the title.

Its why they have a catch-all caveat about unexpected behaviour that the user should always ensure the version of the software is the latest version. They can't cover every base for every title because they don't have infinite time and resources to spend.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
That's PS5 Auto HDR, not original game hdr
I didn't realize the PS5 has that feature as well. How does it compare to the HDR patched later in the game?

I have both physical and digital versions, when I finally get a PS5 I will probably just run the disc for the 4K/60 anyhow.
 

Trogdor1123

Member
So why do you think Sony is just simply overlooking this super easy good will gesture here? It'll be the equivalent to having a $100 million ad campaign if they updated all their biggest\best games to be 60fps or 4K\60fps.
To encourage people to buy the new games?
 

Reallink

Member
I didn't realize the PS5 has that feature as well. How does it compare to the HDR patched later in the game?

I have both physical and digital versions, when I finally get a PS5 I will probably just run the disc for the 4K/60 anyhow.
It does not. PS5 simply packages SDR in an HDR container by default, there's no dynamic range remapping going on. It looks the same as SDR (excepting minor conversion errors)if your TV is properly calibrated, otherwise you're only seeing differences in TV settings/picture modes. Xbox actually attempts to remap the dynamic range and make artistic choices, PS5 does not do that.
 
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Altares13th

Member
Unfortunately, there are a few spots in the game where 1.0 freezes. The first of them being the demo they showed at e3. So you either need to patch the game in order to advance then uninstall while keeping the save progress and install again while the PS5 is offline. I was too lazy to do that so I went back to 30hz.
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Unfortunately, there are a few spots in the game where 1.0 freezes. So you either need to patch the game in order to advance then uninstall while keeping the save progress and install again while the PS5 is offline. I was too lazy to do that so I went back to 30hz.
and 1.0 does not have hdr. It's not worth it. Just play patched at 30
 

kinjx11

Banned
This game is so broken it runs faster than engine's default speed, and it took mr.10 years 1 game actually 10 years to make it before quitting work, Sony never even mentioned how many copies it sold ever meaning it was a flop, a big one like it started at no.4 in japan and 7 in UK and never got back up
 

Portugeezer

Member
Unfortunately, there are a few spots in the game where 1.0 freezes. The first of them being the demo they showed at e3. So you either need to patch the game in order to advance then uninstall while keeping the save progress and install again while the PS5 is offline. I was too lazy to do that so I went back to 30hz.
I'm already a good chunk through, just thought about jumping back on PS5 and finishing. Hopefully the rest of the game isn't too buggy.

A locked 30 is still a huge step up, as this game has many dips on OG PS4.
 
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