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Sony Predicts Over 22.6 Million PS5s Sold Per Year

PS5 already going to hit the $199 price point already?

Because I don't see how else they are hitting 22 million a year. $500, $70 games, stores still selling PS4 and competition which means having less room for PS5 stock, and slow game releases. Maybe with a $199 slim with PS4 discontinued a few years from now maybe.

It doesn't have to hit 199$ though. As long as demand exceeds supply and they produce enough to hit that target it can happen.

The reason why it can sell can be extremely simple. Compelling games from 1st and 3rd parties. They don't necessarily have to be exclusives either.
 

Zeroing

Banned
Nah, just someone who disagrees with future goal of 22m consoles per year.

I am just surprised how out of touch these companies are. First it was Microsoft going hard for 📺, on a gaming console. Now Its Sony turn to make gaming expensive, when were already in a pandemic, and have a hard time, not lose our jobs.
the issue here is there’s nothing wrong with Sony’s PS5 console! They are focused on gaming, they made a good product.

xbox one happen and people still brought the console
Samsung phones had defective batteries and people still brought them.
Apple new iMac has a skew screen, people know that issue and still are buying that expensive product !

you are complaining about gaming being expensive? Start blaming who introduced online behind a paywall MS, and the publisher who started the price increase in 3rd party games - EA

so what you say is Sony making gaming expensive it’s actually not!
it’s the consequences of things that made gaming expensive but people never complained about it.
 

Woodchipper

Member
I don’t give a shit about their stupid predictions! I just want to buy one, NOW! When the fuck can I buy your huge and ugly console, Sony?! During this lifetime I hope!?
 

Unknown?

Member
Like I said, the people who by both these new consoles are people who have extra money, and can afford these games.

Gaming price nowdays is expensive, because physical games is harder to get in some countries, due to these companies unable to operate with covid going on. Your best bet is online retailers, and not every country has those. So you are stuck with digital sales, and bad regional prices.

What I am really worried, is Sony becoming like Nintendo. And the first sign for that, was demon souls being 61$ on this may sale. If this keeps going, then when will they have game sales for their 1st party.

I want to play spiderman 2, since I love the first game. How long do I need to wait for the price to drop down, to affordable sale.
Don't look at numbers, look at buying power. When games jumped to $60 on the PS3/360 it had more buying power than $70 today, it actually had as much buying power as $80. You were paying more back then. In fact you had more buying power with $60 than $70 today all the way till 2012 where it equaled $70.35.
 
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Spidey Fan

Banned
the issue here is there’s nothing wrong with Sony’s PS5 console! They are focused on gaming, they made a good product.

xbox one happen and people still brought the console
Samsung phones had defective batteries and people still brought them.
Apple new iMac has a skew screen, people know that issue and still are buying that expensive product !

you are complaining about gaming being expensive? Start blaming who introduced online behind a paywall MS, and the publisher who started the price increase in 3rd party games - EA

so what you say is Sony making gaming expensive it’s actually not!
it’s the consequences of things that made gaming expensive but people never complained about it.
The difference is ea games hit ea play after 6 months. Ubisoft get very cheap.

On other hand,, Playstation has a console and their first party games. Quarter of the console owners, buy for these games, while others buy for other games. Before, 60$ was tolerable, since there was no pandemic going on and people had small jobs to buy these games (college students).

Now we are facing a pandemic. We are having a hard time maintaining our job. I got laid of from my job, because the company I was working for, didn't have enough work for us. It took me 5 months of job hunting, getting denied or not being called again. I got a job last week on IT company, where we fix electronics, and debug routers. I was happy to finally get a job. There are others like me. I was living with my parents, and being on unemployment.

Now tell me, how do we afford these games at price of 70$, when we are at risk of losing the job again?
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
Do you live in America?
Yes I live in the land of dreams. Worked my ass for a associate degree from a community College, and I couldn't get a job using that degree in my state. I was lucky, the company I applied as a warehouse worker had IT department. They are training me on IT stuff right now. If I wasn't lucky with that, I would still be working in a warehouse job. And only way I will get accepted for cyber security job is to have a bachelor degree. I am working on it now. Only issue is, I would be in $36k debt, due to loans.
 
Now tell me, how do we afford these games at price of 70$, when we are at risk of losing the job again?
If you work for someone you will always be at risk of losing your job.

Its simple, if your not at a solid place financially to buy a game at $70 just wait for a sale or buy it used. But based on the sales numbers for the PS5 and its first party games so far, I doubt Sony will be cutting prices or creating a game pass type rental service anytime soon.
 
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MacReady13

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They need something like gamepass to achieve it.
They don't NEED gamepass to achieve anything! Even without gamepass the PS5 is outselling the series s/x and will continue to do so even when Microsoft get their 1st party games on there. Playstation is a massive brand and unless they completely botch the PS5 (which so far they haven't) they cannot possibly lose this generation. Besides, Microsoft don't really care so long as they have gamepass subscribers on everything they can put it on...
 

kungfuian

Member
Covid demand aside, I believe Sony's projections reflect the fact that their most direct competitor has made it's own hardware more or less 'obsolete'. Microsoft has gone to a fully platform agnostic model. If I can stream games on my TV, X1, android, etc. then I don't need their new hardware, and X Series hardware sales will begin to reflect that at some point. It's reasonable to assume these estimates from Sony are in part based on a plan to absorb some of that Hardware market share.

I'd imagine a similar effect occurs with software too; where microsoft's customers, increasingly made up of gamepass subscribers, become more and more reluctant to participate in tradition software sales. Because Microsoft has established the precedent, the expectation from their customers will be that games should be on game pass or will come to gamepass. It's reasonable to expect software sales for games not on gamepass to see significant drops during this transition, and Sony, by default, stands to gain a greater proportion of those traditional sales.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Yes I live in the land of dreams. Worked my ass for a associate degree from a community College, and I couldn't get a job using that degree in my state. I was lucky, the company I applied as a warehouse worker had IT department. They are training me on IT stuff right now. If I wasn't lucky with that, I would still be working in a warehouse job. And only way I will get accepted for cyber security job is to have a bachelor degree. I am working on it now. Only issue is, I would be in $36k debt, due to loans.

I get that. The loans will be worth it though. I'm in IT too and it took me about 7 years to pay them all off, but I'm set in my career now.
 

Vlodril

Member
The difference is ea games hit ea play after 6 months. Ubisoft get very cheap.

On other hand,, Playstation has a console and their first party games. Quarter of the console owners, buy for these games, while others buy for other games. Before, 60$ was tolerable, since there was no pandemic going on and people had small jobs to buy these games (college students).

Now we are facing a pandemic. We are having a hard time maintaining our job. I got laid of from my job, because the company I was working for, didn't have enough work for us. It took me 5 months of job hunting, getting denied or not being called again. I got a job last week on IT company, where we fix electronics, and debug routers. I was happy to finally get a job. There are others like me. I was living with my parents, and being on unemployment.

Now tell me, how do we afford these games at price of 70$, when we are at risk of losing the job again?

Unfortunate as your situation is , it doesn't represent the rest of the market since the ps5 is selling more than the ps4 and the games seem to be selling well so far (we still need more data to see if the price is an issue of course).
 

Unknown?

Member
The difference is ea games hit ea play after 6 months. Ubisoft get very cheap.

On other hand,, Playstation has a console and their first party games. Quarter of the console owners, buy for these games, while others buy for other games. Before, 60$ was tolerable, since there was no pandemic going on and people had small jobs to buy these games (college students).

Now we are facing a pandemic. We are having a hard time maintaining our job. I got laid of from my job, because the company I was working for, didn't have enough work for us. It took me 5 months of job hunting, getting denied or not being called again. I got a job last week on IT company, where we fix electronics, and debug routers. I was happy to finally get a job. There are others like me. I was living with my parents, and being on unemployment.

Now tell me, how do we afford these games at price of 70$, when we are at risk of losing the job again?
Hey, I get it, things suck due to covid. I had family that lost their business. Buying power aside(as mentioned above), why do you think anyone in your situation could afford $60 or even $40 video games? If I was worried about my job(and I was in my previous one) I would not be thinking about anything but necessities.
 

Zeroing

Banned
The difference is ea games hit ea play after 6 months. Ubisoft get very cheap.

On other hand,, Playstation has a console and their first party games. Quarter of the console owners, buy for these games, while others buy for other games. Before, 60$ was tolerable, since there was no pandemic going on and people had small jobs to buy these games (college students).

Now we are facing a pandemic. We are having a hard time maintaining our job. I got laid of from my job, because the company I was working for, didn't have enough work for us. It took me 5 months of job hunting, getting denied or not being called again. I got a job last week on IT company, where we fix electronics, and debug routers. I was happy to finally get a job. There are others like me. I was living with my parents, and being on unemployment.

Now tell me, how do we afford these games at price of 70$, when we are at risk of losing the job again?
I’m not defending the prize, here it went from 50 euros to 70 euros!

it’s a widespread issue on technology right now! 1000 euros phones… 1200 euros tablets… 1600 euros Macs with defects.

at least with games they can go cheaper in a short time, that’s why I buy games after they get a discount.

I have no idea why companies keep making everything expensive over time while most people’s income haven’t changed to keep up with the prices
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
I’m not defending the prize, here it went from 50 euros to 70 euros!

it’s a widespread issue on technology right now! 1000 euros phones… 1200 euros tablets… 1600 euros Macs with defects.

at least with games they can go cheaper in a short time, that’s why I buy games after they get a discount.

I have no idea why companies keep making everything expensive over time while most people’s income haven’t changed to keep up with the prices
All they care is their profit. We are nothing more than expandable income to them. Sadly people here don't realize it, and praise them for raising the price.
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
Hey, I get it, things suck due to covid. I had family that lost their business. Buying power aside(as mentioned above), why do you think anyone in your situation could afford $60 or even $40 video games? If I was worried about my job(and I was in my previous one) I would not be thinking about anything but necessities.
i need a medium to distract me from this shit. Before it was my gatcha game. Now its game pass xbox, And few money saved from game pass, which allowed me to buy PlayStation games. Life is tough. without some distraction, you will turn to a crazy person, or just off yourself.

Sorry for your family. my condolence.
 
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Why should I 'stfu'? I'm not saying people will buy games over 'basic stuff' (if by that you mean essential stuff), however there are likely to be sufficient people willing to buy a PS5, despite the price of games, that will allow them to hit these targets.
No there won't be. I don't know what that guy was smoking but there's no way Sony can come even close to that number
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
Unfortunate as your situation is , it doesn't represent the rest of the market since the ps5 is selling more than the ps4 and the games seem to be selling well so far (we still need more data to see if the price is an issue of course).
The market now is on early adopters. People with income disposable. My little brother saved 700$ from his warehouse job for his ps5. He only pays water rent, since me and my father pay for other utilities. That is how he got his ps5. Other people dont have that luxury. Companies will keep representing these big spenders as a success for their business.

Most ps4 owners were small families who wanted to keep their kids happy with a 300$ console. and that was enough for them to play Minecraft, and fortnite. College kids who saved for this cheap console. People like me who worked hard enough off for overtime, to buy the console for their little brothers. Ps5 as of now is beyond our spending, and the current game prices makes it even harder to get ps5. This is worst for 3rd world countries, who had ps4. their economy got impacted by covid. The console price and the games price is above what they can pay now, than the ps4 generation.
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
I get that. The loans will be worth it though. I'm in IT too and it took me about 7 years to pay them all off, but I'm set in my career now.
Gz on the IT job, and gz on paying those loans.

I have been trying to get in to IT jobs for a while. and i am lucky to get one now. Its honestly better experience than having to work on a warehouse. The guy who hired me is impressed at my skills, that he is trying to train me different roles. Its hard, since its my first time on hand IT job. hope i don't disappoint him. I never had someone to teach me IT jobs, so i dont want to lose this chance.

How was achieving the bachelor degree? I am starting this autumn, and i am a bitt nervous.
 
That's a weird prediction, so I assume he means they will sell 22.6m consoles during the next fiscal year (April 22 - March 23).
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Gz on the IT job, and gz on paying those loans.

I have been trying to get in to IT jobs for a while. and i am lucky to get one now. Its honestly better experience than having to work on a warehouse. The guy who hired me is impressed at my skills, that he is trying to train me different roles. Its hard, since its my first time on hand IT job. hope i don't disappoint him. I never had someone to teach me IT jobs, so i dont want to lose this chance.

How was achieving the bachelor degree? I am starting this autumn, and i am a bitt nervous.

Didn't get one. I have an Associates Degree with some certifications. It's all you need, unless you want to be a manager in IT or maybe a high level engineer.
That's a weird prediction, so I assume he means they will sell 22.6m consoles during the next fiscal year (April 22 - March 23).

This is EXACTLY what I think he means.
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
Didn't get one. I have an Associates Degree with some certifications. It's all you need, unless you want to be a manager in IT or maybe a high level engineer.


This is EXACTLY what I think he means.
I lack the certification part. I have been trying to take the ccna exam, but it kept getting delayed. I paid 300$ for it in 2020 November.
 
Bold claim, considering major problems with Playstation right now is their gaming price. Unless people consider it like Apple products, I doubt they can sell that number.

This isn't the same gen as last time, where your competition where tv tv tv tv. They are offering a solid software subscription, during a pandemic age, where everyone is having issues with money. While Sony does the 70$ price tag for their games.

I am not bashing Sony here. The reality is gaming is expensive right now. And not everyone is working like last gen. We are in economic crisis. People can't afford to spend 70$ easily. Especially, when their sale in 6 month is 61$ (that was demons souls sale). Unless they offer sales, or some kinda offer, they won't reach their goal. They need something like gamepass to achieve it.
People have no problem paying $70 for a game. A huge amount of people out there have been paying $90-$100+ for the Gold Edition for games for years and years now. It's not as big a deal as you people in your internet bubbles think it is.
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
Don't look at numbers, look at buying power. When games jumped to $60 on the PS3/360 it had more buying power than $70 today, it actually had as much buying power as $80. You were paying more back then. In fact you had more buying power with $60 than $70 today all the way till 2012 where it equaled $70.35.
Its not buying power. People got financial better. people who were kids on ps1 were adults on ps3. same thing for ps4, and xbox. This generation is different. Those people who were comfortable buying those consoles, are now struggling about keeping their jobs. They cant recklessly spend their reserve money to buy these consoles.

And the people who can afford it, dont really have to worry about losing their jobs, or have enough money on their bank.

The series S is cheapest next gen entry. I cant buy it. I cant spend 300$+ taxes on it. that is 3 month of internet pay, which i pay it for the family. All i have to do now is just watch people showing of their new console, while i try to save my money for emergency situation. I learned it hard way, that not everyone was made equally. I had a family come to our house in egypt (before i come to usa), and their kids brought ps3. I had to watch them, jealously them playing on that console. our family couldn't afford one. and right now i am in the same situation as that time. Due to this pandemic, i have to watch people enjoy these new consoles, while i cant buy them, because of something that is outside of my control.
 

BaneIsPain

Member
I hope Sony can achieve it. I know a lot of people still trying to get it.
Anyway, gaming is a hobby if you don't have the financially adequate to buy a $70 game, better wait for sales or focus on improving your wealth.
Shift your priorities, please.
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
I hope Sony can achieve it. I know a lot of people still trying to get it.
Anyway, gaming is a hobby if you don't have the financially adequate to buy a $70 game, better wait for sales or focus on improving your wealth.
Shift your priorities, please.
i do wait for sales. I cant stomach paying 60$ for a game, so i just wait for whatever sales they have. that way, i can get 3 to 5 games at that price. Just got GT 2015 and watchdog 2 ultimate edition for 23$. its first payment for a game i did for this month. Last month, I went out of my 60$ budget monthly for gaming, to 150$. Sony was doing their sales for their 1st party games, so i snagged some of them. That month was no outside food payment for me. budget was just too much.
 

Chiggs

Member
Not with more chip shortages on the horizon and with China and the United States squaring off over Taiwan.

My guess is somewhere between 15 and 18 for the next 2-3 years, which is still quite good.
 
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Not 26 million a year, threads like this confirm that most people in this thread know nothing about gaming.
 
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Hobbygaming

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Its not buying power. People got financial better. people who were kids on ps1 were adults on ps3. same thing for ps4, and xbox. This generation is different. Those people who were comfortable buying those consoles, are now struggling about keeping their jobs. They cant recklessly spend their reserve money to buy these consoles.

And the people who can afford it, dont really have to worry about losing their jobs, or have enough money on their bank.

The series S is cheapest next gen entry. I cant buy it. I cant spend 300$+ taxes on it. that is 3 month of internet pay, which i pay it for the family. All i have to do now is just watch people showing of their new console, while i try to save my money for emergency situation. I learned it hard way, that not everyone was made equally. I had a family come to our house in egypt (before i come to usa), and their kids brought ps3. I had to watch them, jealously them playing on that console. our family couldn't afford one. and right now i am in the same situation as that time. Due to this pandemic, i have to watch people enjoy these new consoles, while i cant buy them, because of something that is outside of my control.
PS5 is the fastest selling console.

I feel for people going through struggles but PS5 will end this generation as one of the highest selling consoles of all time
 

Spidey Fan

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PS5 is the fastest selling console.

I feel for people going through struggles but PS5 will end this generation as one of the highest selling consoles of all time
We have alot of gamers now, compared to ps4. that is to be expected for both consoles. The real challenge is after these 2 years. What will happen when the hardcore fans get their console. How will general people act? I am on of these people, who arent ready to spend that much money for the new consoles in the first year.
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
I get so confused as why people get so excited about sales. I mean it's definitely a positive thing for the company and that's great, but why are you celebrating?

Don't get me wrong. It doesn't matter what the medium is or what company within it, I just can't understand why customers celebrate a corporation doing well?

Is there like a threat that the sales figures quell? Does victory for Sony or Microsoft mean victory for you in some way? Maybe you're a shareholder? I doubt that's the case for every one of you.

It's a really strange behavior to live vicariously through an entity who sees you as just a number.

I rarely, if ever participate in these threads, because most of my comments would boil down to questioning the motives of the others here. Not meaning this to be offensive, just really curious.

One might compare this to sports. I get sports fandom. I mean you root for your team, who's based in your city, state or country. The teams performed feats of athleticism and win or lose games, ultimately vying for the championship. Winning brings pride to the city, state or country.
 
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I get so confused as why people get so excited about sales. I mean it's definitely a positive thing for the company and that's great, but why are you celebrating?

Don't get me wrong. It doesn't matter what the medium is or what company within it, I just can't understand why customers celebrate a corporation doing well?

Is there like a threat that the sales figures quell? Does victory for Sony or Microsoft mean victory for you in some way? Maybe you're a shareholder? I doubt that's the case for every one of you.

It's a really strange behavior to live vicariously through an entity who sees you as just a number.

I rarely, if ever participate in these threads, because most of my comments would boil down to questioning the motives of the others here. Not meaning this to be offensive, just really curious.
This forum is full of Sony fanboys. It’s just what they do. Fanboys are stupid because like you say why would anyone care about a corporation? I mean unless these people are shareholders or employees it doesn’t make sense. Imagine going on the internet and defending major corporations, it’s quite pathetic.
 

Topher

Gold Member
I get so confused as why people get so excited about sales. I mean it's definitely a positive thing for the company and that's great, but why are you celebrating?

Don't get me wrong. It doesn't matter what the medium is or what company within it, I just can't understand why customers celebrate a corporation doing well?

Is there like a threat that the sales figures quell? Does victory for Sony or Microsoft mean victory for you in some way? Maybe you're a shareholder? I doubt that's the case for every one of you.

It's a really strange behavior to live vicariously through an entity who sees you as just a number.

I rarely, if ever participate in these threads, because most of my comments would boil down to questioning the motives of the others here. Not meaning this to be offensive, just really curious.

One might compare this to sports. I get sports fandom. I mean you root for your team, who's based in your city, state or country. The teams performed feats of athleticism and win or lose games, ultimately vying for the championship. Winning brings pride to the city, state or country.

Following the games industry itself is interesting for some of us. There is nothing wrong with that. Some take it too far....sure, but that is the case no matter what the subject.
 

Unknown?

Member
I get so confused as why people get so excited about sales. I mean it's definitely a positive thing for the company and that's great, but why are you celebrating?

Don't get me wrong. It doesn't matter what the medium is or what company within it, I just can't understand why customers celebrate a corporation doing well?

Is there like a threat that the sales figures quell? Does victory for Sony or Microsoft mean victory for you in some way? Maybe you're a shareholder? I doubt that's the case for every one of you.

It's a really strange behavior to live vicariously through an entity who sees you as just a number.

I rarely, if ever participate in these threads, because most of my comments would boil down to questioning the motives of the others here. Not meaning this to be offensive, just really curious.

One might compare this to sports. I get sports fandom. I mean you root for your team, who's based in your city, state or country. The teams performed feats of athleticism and win or lose games, ultimately vying for the championship. Winning brings pride to the city, state or country.
Unlike the post from nightmare-slain nightmare-slain , a real reason is when a product(in the gaming world) you enjoy is successful, it means more games to enjoy. Unsuccessful products don't get as many games.
 

kyliethicc

Member
Just for context, they want to sell 23+ million PS5s during their Fiscal Year 2022.

Meaning from April 1 2022 to March 31 2023.

For Fiscal Year 2021 (the current one), going from April 1 2021 to March 31 2022, they want to sell 15+ million PS5s.

To compare to PS4, from April 1 2014 to March 31 2015, they sold 14.8 million PS4s.

Then from April 1 2015 to March 31 2016, they sold 17.7 million PS4s.
 
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Jigsaah

Gold Member
This forum is full of Sony fanboys. It’s just what they do. Fanboys are stupid because like you say why would anyone care about a corporation? I mean unless these people are shareholders or employees it doesn’t make sense. Imagine going on the internet and defending major corporations, it’s quite pathetic.
I mean Xbox fans do this too, it's not limited to Sony fans. Xbox fans I understand a little bit more because they are celebrating things that actually affect the customer. But when folks say, for example, "GAMEPASS has 23million subscribers", that fact alone only signifies that the company is doing well. I suppose it could signify that Gamepass is here to stay to some extent.

Sony folks celebrate simply the raw sales figures, which I suppose will indicate a healthy market, meaning Sony should continue to support their endeavor. That would be something to celebrate if it weren't already expected.
 
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Following the games industry itself is interesting for some of us. There is nothing wrong with that. Some take it too far....sure, but that is the case no matter what the subject.
Of course there is nothing wrong with following the news but getting into arguments online to defend the honour of Sony (or any other multi billion $ corporation) is sad and pathetic.
 

Topher

Gold Member
Yep let's pretend people weren't bringing up Xbox earlier in the thread.

Then reply to them or point them out so everyone will know exactly what you are talking about. Your comment just looks out of place.

Of course there is nothing wrong with following the news but getting into arguments online to defend the honour of Sony (or any other multi billion $ corporation) is sad and pathetic.

That isn't limited to sales. There are all kinds of threads where people (Xbox, PS, Nintendo, PC, etc.) go to great lengths to "defend the honor" of some corporation or just outright providing promotion for them. Jigsaah Jigsaah is correct. It is very much like a sporting event. People can be fanatical. Just human nature.
 
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