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[kingpotato]

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[Gavon West]

Nah, Sony has the stronger lineup next year, imo.

Nah. They really don't. And we don't know what else we don't know coming from XGS, which, is alot. Competition is good

 

[Skifi28]

Because this thread doesn’t encourage console warring lol…

It doesn't encourage it, it demands it.

 

[Warnen]

Of the year

of the next decade

 

[GymWolf]

Yeah definitely.

I don't care for most of their games and deathloop was easily arkane worse game in the past 15 years but they had a better output than sony who only has a ps3 remake, a pixar looking game that plays exactly like the first ps2 title of the same brand and returnal that is the best tps of the year but a terrible roguelite, i think overall M has this year in the bag.

Next year is not gonna be as easy tho, between big third parties, nintendo with botw2 and sony crossgen (fuck jimbo) big titles.

 

[ANDS]

I think you need to look at the definition of publisher and then revise your list.

SONY is LITERALLY the publisher of each of those games. I don't doubt DSMC will come to PC and wouldn't be surprised if it was published by SONY instead of 505 this go around. However at the moment, the only version of DSMC this is available is the one published by SONY.

 

[reksveks]

Nah, Sony has the stronger lineup next year, imo.

Based off the announced games, I would say the same. I think it's 3 announced and published games vs two, Sony has more exclusives which might skew some people.

 

[R6Rider]

It doesn't encourage it, it demands it.

Of course.

 

[Banjo64]

DS and GOT literally added content to their games (and for the better in both cases) and - again - had these version rereviewed based on this. However sure, MSFS deserves to be in the OP's list.

. . .and disingenuous? Really? It's not disingenuous to try and paint Deathloop (and yes, even Psychonauts) as some game with MS DNA in it and not just a direct impact of them scooping up Bethesda within the last year? Meh.

But you’re happy to include Ratchet for Sony, when Sony acquired Insomniac after MS acquired Double Fine. That’s a mighty big brain you’ve got there.

 

[Mr Moose]

And Bethesda is part of Xbox

Bethesda is owned by who again?

Who publishes Death Stranding on PC? It isn't Sony.
What about MineCraft on Nintendo/Sony consoles? It's not MicroSoft.
It's about publishing, not owning.

 

[Topher]

maybe, both are bringing big titles. Gonna be a great year, barring delays of course.

Hopefully nothing gets pushed back because right now 2022 looks like it is going to be an incredible year.

Based off the announced games, I would say the same. I think it's 3 announced and published games vs two, Sony has more exclusives which might skew some people.

Of course, all these games have to live up to their hype too. I'm just happy to see both of them firing on all cylinders. I didn't invest $1000 in console hardware for either of them to sit idle.

Nah. They really don't. And we don't know what else we don't know coming from XGS, which, is alot. Competition is good

Yeah, I think they do at this point. We don't know what else is coming from PlayStation Studios either. But yeah, a lot remains to be seen.

 

[ANDS]

But you’re happy to include Ratchet for Sony, when Sony acquired Insomniac after MS acquired Double Fine. That’s a mighty big brain you’ve got there.

Yeah. That random, out of nowhere purchase of INSOMNIAC that isn't based on a long history of collaboration on SONY published games.

. . .big brain energy all around.

 

[kingpotato]

Nah. They really don't. And we don't know what else we don't know coming from XGS, which, is alot. Competition is good

I'm convinced God of War is going to be fucking amazing and will blow just about everything else out of the water, but we'll see.

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

MS had no hand in the development of Psychonauts or Deathloop (and hell didn't even publish DL) but sure. . .get in a tizzy over them publishing releases of previously released games (both of which had their new versions extensively reviewed by the gaming press).

Pillock indeed.

Well psychonauts they did since DF said boss battles were a big part of ms funding. Deathloop is arguable but if you paying developers salary you got a part in it lol.

 

[R6Rider]

But you’re happy to include Ratchet for Sony, when Sony acquired Insomniac after MS acquired Double Fine. That’s a mighty big brain you’ve got there.

He's including R&C because every single title has been published by Sony.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

My official view as a member of the PlayStation Nation is fuck no

But unofficially I would say yeah

 

[Mr Moose]

Yeah. That random, out of nowhere purchase of INSOMNIAC that isn't based on a long history of collaboration on SONY published games.

. . .big brain energy all around.

MicroSoft published Psychonauts 2.

Psychonauts 2

Get Psyched

store.playstation.com

 

[IDKFA]

Microsoft deserve it this year. Shows that hard work pays off. They've bent over backwards for their customers this generation and it really shows. Truly, they're currently the Gods of gaming.

Possibly swing back to Sony next year. Especially if they can get Ragnarok, GT7 and Forbidden West out for 2022.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

SONY? R&C, Returnal, Death Stranding DC, GoT: DC. All of these games are "mighty" according to MC (can even get away with throwing Demon Soul's in there with OP's inclusion of MSFS).

If you have to include remasters/director's cut versions of games released years ago, then your lineup is sparse. Not to mention it holds no candle to the variety that MS produced this year.

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

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NeoGAF: metacritic should never be used because it's rigged bullshit

I'm one of the few people who think for the most part an amalgamation of reviews usually gets it right.

 

[Sosokrates]

FH5,Halo, Psychonauts 2 and flight sim.

Yeah seems like it.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Yeah I will give it to Microsoft. They got the core right by first releasing good halo and forza games. Now I want them to go to the next level over the coming generation. I want it to be best competition since ps3/360 days.

Shout out to sony for releasing a new ip. I always like that. Especially with how risk averse the industry is today.

 

[Lokaum D+]

booted Deathloop on my PS5 and didn't see MS logo anywhere, they published or not ??? didnt see MS logo on the box art.

 

[BusierDonkey]

Between Psychonauts 2 and Horizon 5 they got my vote this year. Psychonauts 2 was a blast and I currently reside in Mexico driving cars I paint myself. I haven't played the Halo campaign yet but the multiplayer has been a lot of fun so far.

Next year will be Starfield which will be my GOTY even if it's only as good as Fallout 4. If Forza Motorsports makes it next year (doubtful) and T10 has used that 5 year development time to make something truly evolutionary in the sim space it'll just cement things for me.

The fact they release on PC day one helps their case too.

 

[wvnative]

Meh...

I only play FH, but it's a broken mess

 

[ANDS]

Yeah I will give it to Microsoft. They got the core right by first releasing good halo and forza games. Now I want them to go to the next level over the coming generation. I want it to be best competition since ps3/360 days.

Shout out to sony for releasing a new ip. I always like that. Especially with how risk averse the industry is today.

I think you'll see a lot of this from the developer no one is talking about: Obsidian. I am willing to set my watch to GROUNDED being out next year, and us seeing a lot more of AVOWED and THE OUTER WORLDS. It is disappointing that it's PC or bust on playing those games, but - assuming the next FABLE isn't around the corner - it will be good to actually have some genre variety coming from MS.

 

[kingpotato]

booted Deathloop on my PS5 and didn't see MS logo anywhere, they published or not ??? didnt see MS logo on the box art.

I think Bethesda published it.

 

[BusierDonkey]

booted Deathloop on my PS5 and didn't see MS logo anywhere, they published or not ??? didnt see MS logo on the box art.

Xbox Game Studios - Wikipedia

It's all in there. Arkane's games are published by Bethesda Softworks which is part of Microsoft.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

No. Sony had a better year even though it was one of their weaker years

but it’s certainly a much better year than most for MS even with the disappointing release of Halo, they can’t continue to let that IP flounder

 

[CatLady]

If you have to include remasters/director's cut versions of games released years ago, then your lineup is sparse. Not to mention it holds no candle to the variety that MS produced this year.

And also leave out Destruction All-stars, released Feb 2, 2021 with a 62 Metacritic and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment

 

[geary]

And also all those games are in a total different genres.

 

[Mister Wolf]

maybe, both are bringing big titles. Gonna be a great year, barring delays of course.

Hopefully Indiana Jones is ready for 2022.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Hopefully Indiana Jones is ready for 2022.

That's 2 years out at the very minimum

 

[Papacheeks]

No. Sony had a better year even though it was one of their weaker years

but it’s certainly a much better year than most for MS even with the disappointing release of Halo, they can’t continue to let that IP flounder

To me in my opinion everyone keeps saying "their hard work" Outside of Halo, and Forza all they did was buy a fucking publisher, and studio that had these titles already in the works. On paper legally yes they are the publisher of those titles like Psychonaughts 2. But all they did was pay those titles.

Forza horizon 5 and Halo on the other hand those to me are true accomplishments. Even with the issues Halo had it's MP is fantastic, and looks like campaign is great. Horizon to me is the real star this year.

I think they really did though turn a corner. Matt Booty is showing he's putting in work.

I just hope this translates over to Fable, Perfect dark.

 

[Hitchyhero]

SONY? R&C, Returnal, Death Stranding DC, GoT: DC. All of these games are "mighty" according to MC (can even get away with throwing Demon Soul's in there with OP's inclusion of MSFS).

This is the funniest post I've seen all year on GAF. I love Sony games but are you really counting 2 re-releases.

I suppose in that case we should add Skyrim to MS's list

 

[NickFire]

Even though I don't have Xbox or a gaming PC, I would agree MS was the best publisher this calendar year. Flight Sim, Forza, and Halo were a strong second half.

 

[purpletentacle]

I suppose in that case we should add Skyrim to MS's list

let's not forget Quake

 

[Sosokrates]

booted Deathloop on my PS5 and didn't see MS logo anywhere, they published or not ??? didnt see MS logo on the box art.

Well Bethesda Softworks published it, who are owned by Zenimax which is owned by Microsoft. So yes it is published by Microsoft.

 

[Termite]

Yes, they are.

I'm a Playstation fan but decided I'd buy whichever of the two next-gen consoles I could buy first, since it was such a hassle. Turned out to be the XSX in April. My first Xbox since I switched from 360 to PS3 in 2008. Since then MS has delivered fantastic game after fantastic game - I've been really surprised.

But what has really shocked me is how I haven't felt at all that I'm missing out by not having a PS5. Okay, Returnal, that was the only moment. Other than that it's been games I've already played or am not interested in or can play on my PS4 Pro.

And the value of Game Pass means that I'm gonna struggle to go back to paying 70-80 euro on PS. However, PSVR was incredible and when Sony announced PSVR2 they locked me in as a PS5 owner. So I will be back. But right now, Xbox is killing it.

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

I think Bethesda published it.

They present themselves as Xbox/Bethesda...both are under MS.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

To me in my opinion everyone keeps saying "their hard work" Outside of Halo, and Forza all they did was buy a fucking publisher, and studio that had these titles already in the works. On paper legally yes they are the publisher of those titles like Psychonaughts 2. But all they did was pay those titles.

Forza horizon 5 and Halo on the other hand those to me are true accomplishments. Even with the issues Halo had it's MP is fantastic, and looks like campaign is great. Horizon to me is the real star this year.

I think they really did though turn a corner. Matt Booty is showing he's putting in work.

I just hope this translates over to Fable, Perfect dark.

halo isn’t for me, the series is stuck in 2001 still in many ways. I guess the superfans like it well enough but most others aren’t looking convinced, it should really be a much better production

im sure forza is great for what it is but a lot of people simply don’t care about racing games

the true test will be Starfield and all their other games in development, this year was too predictable and just followed their same old formula mostly

 

[Stuart360]

No. Sony had a better year even though it was one of their weaker years

but it’s certainly a much better year than most for MS even with the disappointing release of Halo, they can’t continue to let that IP flounder

How your low level bait continues to evade the mods, i simply dont know lol.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

How your low level bait continues to evade the mods, i simply dont know lol.

low level bait? It’s called having an opinion, grow a spine instead of being overly defensive

 

[OmegaSupreme]

If you have to include remasters/director's cut versions of games released years ago, then your lineup is sparse. Not to mention it holds no candle to the variety that MS produced this year.

Sequels to established franchises? Yeah. Great variety.

 

[Papacheeks]

halo isn’t for me, the series is stuck in 2001 still in many ways. I guess the superfans like it well enough but most others aren’t looking convinced, it should really be a much better production

im sure forza is great for what it is but a lot of people simply don’t care about racing games

the true test will be Starfield and all their other games in development, this year was too predictable and just followed their same old formula mostly

I'm a playstation guy and even I recognize that Forza has a huge audience. They had like 10 million players in Horizon. Halo is still the top played game on steam.

So regardless of what you think Halo and Forza are bigger now than they were in XBox one. ANd thats because of change in direction in how people can have access to your games.

Those numbers are showing people are interested.

 

[Banjo64]

Yeah. That random, out of nowhere purchase of INSOMNIAC that isn't based on a long history of collaboration on SONY published games.

. . .big brain energy all around.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I'm a playstation guy and even I recognize that Forza has a huge audience. They had like 10 million players in Horizon. Halo is still the top played game on steam.

So regardless of what you think Halo and Forza are bigger now than they were in XBox one. ANd thats because of change in direction in how people can have access to your games.

Those numbers are showing people are interested.

not really an apples to apples comparison though. Initial interest isn’t evidence of a larger long term audience. No way is Halo as big as it was at its peak on 360 in terms of actual engagement and not just a passing interest since it’s “free” on GP

 

[ANDS]

This is the funniest post I've seen all year on GAF. I love Sony games but are you really counting 2 re-releases.

I suppose in that case we should add Skyrim to MS's list

If the Skyrim: Anniversary edition was re-reviewed based on what it added. . .why not? GOT (with the included DLC) and DS are separate SKU's from their original releases with their own separate Opencritic entries.

 

[Lognor]

No. Sony had a better year even though it was one of their weaker years

but it’s certainly a much better year than most for MS even with the disappointing release of Halo, they can’t continue to let that IP flounder

NAh. Sony had a terrible year. They released a forgettable kids game and a rougelike that was broken at launch with inability to suspend the game. Am I missing something? Probably one of, if not the, worst year for Sony since the PS3 days.

 

[Papacheeks]

not really an apples to apples comparison though. Initial interest isn’t evidence of a larger long term audience. No way is Halo as big as it was at its peak on 360 in terms of actual engagement and not just a passing interest since it’s “free” on GP

We can't gauge longterm at the moment? All we can gauge is the number of platforms the games are available. Horizon is literally available across all devices, and so is Halo. Sea of thieves still has a healthy userbase. They may not be "selling" millions of copies, but they have millions of players through gamepass, and now F2P MP on halo through xbox store, steam ect.

This isn't Xbox one era. You are correct if you compared 360 era to Xbox one, As it stands now Xbox series is doing better than xbox one is doing by a large margin. It's closer to 360 in terms of popularity. After this Holiday you will see a huge surge in numbers being posted by Microsoft and that will give us a better gauge.