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[DF] Elden Ring performance: what to expect on PS5, Series X/S and PC

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
Version 1.02 (still WIP)

- Nothing was changed from Beta
- Performance mode: 45-60fps
- Quality Mode: 30-60fps
- Unlocked framerate for both machines
- 60fps in Quality Mode is rarely hit
- PS5 is typically operating at a higher frame-rate than Series X
- Running the PS4 App on PS5 gets you locked 60fps (at lower resolution 1800p reconstructed and lower settings in grass density)
- On Series X you can use VRR but it is not perfect and it doesn't work well on Series S due the lower framerate range
- Even with the trade-offs PS4 app on PS5 is the best way to play the game on consoles right now

Even the last line is a shame... I don't have a PS5 to play PS4 app games lol
Fuck.

Thanks for the summary, XSS is out of range kind of…
 

MarkMe2525

Member
As the first souls game I planned on giving a real college try, this is disappointing. This is with me having a SX and a VRR capable television.
 

REDRZA MWS

Member
There are some serious drama queens here. Even in the DF beta comparison, the game looks great. A few frame drops don’t make this a “stuttery mess”. Hyperbole. Enjoy this masterpiece fellow gamers, I’m done with this thread. Nothing to see here.
 

Mr Moose

Member
There are some serious drama queens here. Even in the DF beta comparison, the game looks great. A few frame drops don’t make this a “stuttery mess”. Hyperbole. Enjoy this masterpiece fellow gamers, I’m done with this thread. Nothing to see here.
It's the PC version that has stutters, the console versions are just... Not that great (45-60fps).
People can be disappointed with the performance, this is rated 97 game on MetaCritic, it should be held to a higher standard. We're still going to play it and love it but fuckkkk, From, could you try a little harder please?
 
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Represent.

Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Just goes to show how From is nothing but an industry darling. How the fuck is all of this ignored and the game still scores perfect 10's across EVERY. SINGLE. SITE? You mean to tell me not ONE reviewer said, you know what.. this game is an 8. Not one? They all thought it was perfect?

If Horizon had all these issues at launch, heads would roll. And it did have its issues, and we heard about it in reviews, and scores reflected that...

From game? Looks like a PS3 game, runs like shit .. 10!

gross.
 

Mr Moose

Member
as long as its not as god awful as trying to stomach Bloodbornes choppy ass 15 fps flip book like gameplay. Yall should be fine
15fps Bloodborne?
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REDRZA MWS

Member
It's the PC version that has stutters, the console versions are just... Not that great (45-60fps).
People can be disappointed with the performance, this is rated 97 game on MetaCritic, it should be held to a higher standard. We're still going to play it and love it but fuckkkk, From, could you try a little harder please?
I’m not saying I don’t agree that FROM needs to do better, technically and with optimizations across the board. But we are acting like The game is unplayable or broken with these reactions…… sheesh.
 

Bojji

Member
So I bought digital PS4/PS5 version. In this case Sony splitting both versions and allowing both to be played on PS5 works great. I will start PS4 BC version and wait for PS5 fix.

But really From... I expected better after so many games with poor performance.
 

Represent.

Represent(ative) of bad opinions
I’m not saying I don’t agree that FROM needs to do better, technically and with optimizations across the board. But we are acting like The game is unplayable or broken with these reactions…… sheesh.
98 on Metacritic. Game needs to be held to a higher standard.

Again... 98 on Metacritic.

Video games are technical pieces of art.

This game should be a technical masterpiece like RDR 2, TLOU 2, GOW, GTA V, etc all were if its going to get such high scores.

It runs like crap and looks like a PS3 game.

People need to hold FROM accountable. They have the talent and the hardware to make better looking games. Its not like they're releasing shit on the Switch. Do better. Demand better.
 
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Mr Moose

Member
Oh I thought they would fix online by the time Elden Ring came out. So PC suffers from horrible stuttering and complete gameplay pauses, crashing and has zero online functionality out the gate?
I've been ignoring reviews so I'm not 100% sure, I think they took down online for all of the Souls games.
 

VFXVeteran

Banned
They already announced it is coming to consoles.
Then I have NO idea how they are going to do it unless they run performance mode and use 1 RT feature which will be BS quality and lowering the FPS down to that of Quality mode. Why lower the resolution so much and then add RT on top of it so it all looks like crap? I think they are just doing it on consoles just to save face. The PC will require DLSS in order for this game to run consistently at 60FPS + RT because it'll have the bandwidth to keep everything sharp and add RT on top of it. Oh well..
 
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REDRZA MWS

Member
98 on Metacritic. Game needs to be held to a higher standard.

Again... 98 on Metacritic.

Video games are technical pieces of art.

This game should be a technical masterpiece like RDR 2, TLOU 2, GOW, GTA V, etc all were if its going to get such high scores.

It runs like crap and looks like a PS3 game.

People need to hold FROM accountable. They have the talent and the hardware to make better looking games. Its not like they're releasing shit on the Switch. Do better. Demand better.
I’m sorry man, you are delusional. RDR2 is a 30fps slogfest. But that’s neither here nor there. The size, scope, content of this game, the TOTAL EXPERIENCE, has been reviewed by every major critic and they have spoken.

In the DF tech test comparison video, the PS5 and SX ran mostly close to 60 with drops to low to mid 50’s mostly. The game is not even close to what people like you reaction to it. I’m not saying I wouldn’t welcome improvements and wish for a locked 60, but a game this size and scale dips to low 50”s and this is some stuttery mess? Puhlease. Hyperbole. I can’t wait to fire this shit up on my PS5 on my 77” LG GX in a few hours.

Edit: And if you think this game looks like a PS3 game you need your eyes examined.
 
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01011001

Banned
98 on Metacritic. Game needs to be held to a higher standard.

Again... 98 on Metacritic.

Video games are technical pieces of art.

This game should be a technical masterpiece like RDR 2, TLOU 2, GOW, GTA V, etc all were if its going to get such high scores.

It runs like crap and looks like a PS3 game.

People need to hold FROM accountable. They have the talent and the hardware to make better looking games. Its not like they're releasing shit on the Switch. Do better. Demand better.

the games you listed also didn't get held to a high standard. they might be great in the tech department but are mediocre games at best in terms of game design.

so I would agree with you if it wasn't the case that reviewers in genral ignore flaws left and right. and I am more ok with a game getting higher scores for having great game design than with games getting it solely for their technical prowess
 

GHG

Member
nah knuckle head its automatic. Why do u think it happens so often

Maybe you shouldn't talk about things you clearly have zero experience and knowledge with.

This is the post purchase screen where you can clearly select which version you want to download:

IMG-20220225-015525.jpg


And while I'm here let's revisit your original statement shall we? :

dw. with how dumb the PS5 is, its more than likely that most ppl will be playing the PS4 version by accident anyway

its happened to me at least 3 times

And let's see what happens when you go through the purchase process then hit download without selecting anything:



Oh would you look at that, it automatically downloads the PS5 version.

Who is the "knuckle head" again?
 

Zathalus

Member
Then I have NO idea how they are going to do it unless they run performance mode and use 1 RT feature which will be BS quality and lowering the FPS down to that of Quality mode. Why lower the resolution so much and then add RT on top of it so it all looks like crap? I think they are just doing it on consoles just to save face. The PC will require DLSS in order for this game to run consistently at 60FPS + RT because it'll have the bandwidth to keep everything sharp and add RT on top of it. Oh well..
Getting RT shadows on consoles should be doable, just drop the DRS range to 1080p-1440p. Currently the PS5 version for example often averages around 1800p with FPS in the 50-60 fps range.

Also, RDNA 2 apparently works rather well with RT shadows for some reason.
 
Maybe you shouldn't talk about things you clearly have zero experience and knowledge with.

This is the post purchase screen where you can clearly select which version you want to download:

IMG-20220225-015525.jpg


And while I'm here let's revisit your original statement shall we? :



And let's see what happens when you go through the purchase process then hit download without selecting anything:



Oh would you look at that, it automatically downloads the PS5 version.

Who is the "knuckle head" again?

if u want to ignore all the chatter since PS5 launch. U can just google "PS5 downloading ps4 version" and see how that works out for u. Like i said its happened to me on at least 3 occasions. And seemingly a ton of other ppl.
 

GHG

Member
if u want to ignore all the chatter since PS5 launch. U can just google "PS5 downloading ps4 version" and see how that works out for u. Like i said its happened to me on at least 3 occasions. And seemingly a ton of other ppl.

Yes, let's ignore the facts that have been presented right in front of your face and resort to "the chatter".

I've had my PS5 digital since launch and it's not happened to me once where I purchase a game that has a native PS5 version and it ends up downloading the PS4 one by default.

But maybe it's my fault because I haven't been indoctrinated with "smart delivery".

Better luck next time.
 

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
Maybe you shouldn't talk about things you clearly have zero experience and knowledge with.

This is the post purchase screen where you can clearly select which version you want to download:

IMG-20220225-015525.jpg


And while I'm here let's revisit your original statement shall we? :



And let's see what happens when you go through the purchase process then hit download without selecting anything:



Oh would you look at that, it automatically downloads the PS5 version.

Who is the "knuckle head" again?

Thank you for this.
 
been playing on the XSX off and on today in between working, will really dive in this evening

so far the game looks incredible and runs great, playing on XSX and LG C1
 
if u want to ignore all the chatter since PS5 launch. U can just google "PS5 downloading ps4 version" and see how that works out for u. Like i said its happened to me on at least 3 occasions. And seemingly a ton of other ppl.

That was only ever an issue with physical copies for me. Digital had always shown you both versions. Pre-loads were also always set to automatically download the PS5 version
 
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Represent.

Represent(ative) of bad opinions
I’m sorry man, you are delusional. RDR2 is a 30fps slogfest. But that’s neither here nor there. The size, scope, content of this game, the TOTAL EXPERIENCE, has been reviewed by every major critic and they have spoken.

In the DF tech test comparison video, the PS5 and SX ran mostly close to 60 with drops to low to mid 50’s mostly. The game is not even close to what people like you reaction to it. I’m not saying I wouldn’t welcome improvements and wish for a locked 60, but a game this size and scale dips to low 50”s and this is some stuttery mess? Puhlease. Hyperbole. I can’t wait to fire this shit up on my PS5 on my 77” LG GX in a few hours.

Edit: And if you think this game looks like a PS3 game you need your eyes examined.
30 fps is not a "slogfest". RDR 2 at time of release was the best looking game ever. Levels above anything else in the Open World genre. It wasn't surpassed until last week when Horizon Forbidden West came out.

Elden Ring has beautiful art design, but it is an ugly ass game. I feel like all that great art gets wasted when the technical artists do work that looks like they don't give a damn.

All i'm saying is I expect that when a game gets a 98 on MC, it is flawless in all aspects of video game design. You cant just fail/ignore such an important pillar in video game creation (the technical aspect) and still garner 10/10s literally everywhere. At least not to me. For such high scores it must be firing on ALL cylinders.

How much better would this game be if it looked anywhere close to HFW? Answer that question honestly. Thats all im saying. And From can do it - they simply choose not to spend nearly enough time on such a huge aspect of gaming.

Christ, Sony should have bought these guys when they had the chance and dedicated a whole team to polishing up their graphics.
the games you listed also didn't get held to a high standard. they might be great in the tech department but are mediocre games at best in terms of game design.

so I would agree with you if it wasn't the case that reviewers in genral ignore flaws left and right. and I am more ok with a game getting higher scores for having great game design than with games getting it solely for their technical prowess

of course they did. they were all technical marvels, and they all had great level design. what are you on about? TLOU 2 and GOW specifically have excellent level design in their genres.
 

REDRZA MWS

Member
Yes, let's ignore the facts that have been presented right in front of your face and resort to "the chatter".

I've had my PS5 digital since launch and it's not happened to me once where I purchase a game that has a native PS5 version and it ends up downloading the PS4 one by default.

But maybe it's my fault because I haven't been indoctrinated with "smart delivery".

Better luck next time.
Yeah, he’s full of shit. After purchase it clearly gives the choice or to download both. Seems he needs to just pay more attention.
 

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
if u want to ignore all the chatter since PS5 launch. U can just google "PS5 downloading ps4 version" and see how that works out for u. Like i said its happened to me on at least 3 occasions. And seemingly a ton of other ppl.
OS updates. Thats all.

Granted in the beginning there were launch growing pains.

But this is 2022. Alot of those early days issues are either gone or minimal.

Hell, there is current a beta OS update our right now.

Know what I didnt and dont do? A platform I dont play on alot just assume what was, still is.

I always try to make a disclaimer when talking about Switch, XBO or Series consoles.

Like, things change, ya know? lol.
 

ANDS

King of Gaslighting
Yeah, he’s full of shit. After purchase it clearly gives the choice or to download both. Seems he needs to just pay more attention.

Holy shit the irony. You're literally telling people they're making a mountain out of a molehill with video of the game on current patch having worse and more frequent immersion breaking stuttering. And thats just THAT issue.

. . . eyes opened indeed.
 

VFXVeteran

Banned
Getting RT shadows on consoles should be doable, just drop the DRS range to 1080p-1440p. Currently the PS5 version for example often averages around 1800p with FPS in the 50-60 fps range.
1080p would be more likely. However, there simply isn't enough discrete samples to capture the analytical rendering equations. It will look ugly. This is similar to the problem that HFW has in performance mode. Foliage will make it obvious as the pixel sizes are extremely tiny. These game companies seem to be chasing their tails. They want to introduce a new feature and the console doesn't have enough bandwidth for it, they make silly concessions instead of just doing without the feature. Bring in RT, then lower resolution even more, now you gotta put a post-filter in to get rid of the aliasing which degrades the image quality even further. The only reason the PCs have hope is because of DLSS. Otherwise THOSE GPUs wouldn't have the bandwidth either.

Also, RDNA 2 apparently works rather well with RT shadows for some reason.
We'll see.
 
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TrebleShot

Member
Maybe you shouldn't talk about things you clearly have zero experience and knowledge with.

This is the post purchase screen where you can clearly select which version you want to download:

IMG-20220225-015525.jpg


And while I'm here let's revisit your original statement shall we? :



And let's see what happens when you go through the purchase process then hit download without selecting anything:



Oh would you look at that, it automatically downloads the PS5 version.

Who is the "knuckle head" again?

Incredible
 

Zathalus

Member
1080p would be more likely. However, there simply isn't enough discrete samples to capture the analytical rendering equations. It will look ugly. This is similar to the problem that HFW has in performance mode. Foliage will make it obvious as the pixel sizes are extremely tiny.


We'll see.
No really, RDNA 2 keeps pace with Ampere (or just a bit behind or taking the lead) in Dirt 5, Godfall, Far Cry 6, RE: Village and Deathloop. It seems, when properly optimized for, RDNA 2 does really well with RT shadows.
 

Bogeyman

Banned
Oof. I'm really looking forward to playing this game.

But - how's it possible this game looks significantly worse than most other current (cross) gen games, while also combining those underwhelming visuals with terrible performance?!

From really, really needs to step up their technical game. No need to be at the forefront of fidelity and performance, but it would be nice if they met just absolute minimum standards
 

Mr Moose

Member
Holy shit the irony. You're literally telling people they're making a mountain out of a molehill with video of the game on current patch having worse and more frequent immersion breaking stuttering. And thats just THAT issue.

. . . eyes opened indeed.
I thought they were talking about how easy it is to download the PS5 version, what did I miss? :messenger_anxious:
1080p would be more likely. However, there simply isn't enough discrete samples to capture the analytical rendering equations. It will look ugly. This is similar to the problem that HFW has in performance mode. Foliage will make it obvious as the pixel sizes are extremely tiny. These game companies seem to be chasing their tails. They want to introduce a new feature and the console doesn't have enough bandwidth for it, they make silly concessions instead of just doing without the feature. Bring in RT, then lower resolution even more, now you gotta put a post-filter in to get rid of the aliasing which degrades the image quality even further. The only reason the PCs have hope is because of DLSS. Otherwise THOSE GPUs wouldn't have the bandwidth either.


We'll see.
RT shadows look nice in Call of Duty Cold War and OK-ish in Cyberpunk but I'd personally choose the other modes in those games, I would take a higher res over shadows.
What would you think would have the biggest impact on the overall image (not necessarily RT) in this game to make it look better?

Did DF mention the AF? Ground soup looks crappy, hopefully its high enough. I noticed in Cyberpunk the RT mode seemed to have less shimmering, was that down to the better shadows? Unless I am remembering wrong, my memory is pretty shit.
 

Lokaum D+

Member
2060 super is in there. 60fps lock with about 70% utilization. Not sure what settings preset.

Looks like the GTX 1650, RX 570 and RX 6500 XT are all good for 1080p 50fps+.
yeah, i saw it too, RTX 2060 super was running the game at 1080p low settings.

 
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REDRZA MWS

Member


Watching this dudes PS5 stream ( not too long want to avoid spoilers) just to see some gameplay to evaluate performance. Looks fucking great to me.
 

VFXVeteran

Banned
RT shadows look nice in Call of Duty Cold War and OK-ish in Cyberpunk but I'd personally choose the other modes in those games, I would take a higher res over shadows.
What would you think would have the biggest impact on the overall image (not necessarily RT) in this game to make it look better?
I actually don't have COD. I gave up on that franchise long ago.

Did DF mention the AF? Ground soup looks crappy, hopefully its high enough.
Should be maxed out on PC at 16X. Not sure about the consoles.

I noticed in Cyberpunk the RT mode seemed to have less shimmering, was that down to the better shadows? Unless I am remembering wrong, my memory is pretty shit.
Nah. Less shimmering is due to anti-aliasing techniques whether through texture filtering or post-filtering techniques. If you are talking about the shadows shimmering then I would guess it's because they do a one sample shadow and then blur the edges of the shadows from a framebuffer. Some games like Metro will actually importance sample to the light source.. that means taking many samples to the light source and averaging the result.
 
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