Werewolfgrandma
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Scaled down is way better then overly ambitious. Scaled down can still be fun. Overly ambitious is always broken.
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Fable might have been scaled down due to engine issues and lack of wrpg expertise. Could release later than expected.
XXL
Member
I will personally not buy an Xbox until they show they can consistently produce great software.
With that said, worrying about this is dumb. Wait until we see it to judge what is going on. These pre reports/rumors to generate clicks and create arguments between sycophants are pointless.
If Fable sucks, trust me you'll know when it comes time.
With that said, worrying about this is dumb. Wait until we see it to judge what is going on. These pre reports/rumors to generate clicks and create arguments between sycophants are pointless.
If Fable sucks, trust me you'll know when it comes time.
3liteDragon
Member
He’s saying what was reported a few months ago but this is the first time I’ve heard of it being “scaled down”, if that’s even true.
Pelta88
Member
Colt is an XB ambassador. Both of these guys have been spreading misinformation for years and on a consistent basis.
XB having a management problem is a conversation I'm willing to have, but taking these guys seriously is farcial. Just take a peek and some of their insider/clickbait headlines.
XB having a management problem is a conversation I'm willing to have, but taking these guys seriously is farcial. Just take a peek and some of their insider/clickbait headlines.
MarkMe2525
Member
News has been slow
jhjfss
Member
2042. But now its been delayed to 2077.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
so... no gameplay, no nothing at the next Xbox presentation?
Nickolaidas
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Bernd Lauert
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
And needs therapy
StealthGoblin
Banned
I genuinely think the management and producers at Xbox aren’t all that great. One or two missteps is par for the course but as an organisation they just haven’t got their shit together with internal studios.
Turn 10 seem to be the only one who has consistently hit their mark as all the others have had issues over the years. If these rumours are true then Playground can be added to the list of struggles.
On the other hand, when developers come out and praise Sony’s pipeline and producers I think more people need to pay attention to what a great job they do on the whole. Look at the games they got out for launch and during a pandemic.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
If they aren't in contact with Bethesda for help and support, their management deserve every failure that comes their way. Imagine not hitting up your own family of developers to share knowledge on WRPG. Borderline criminal.“lack of wrpg expertise”?
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Next year?
I haven't read any news lately. Just rumors and old news.
Kssio_Aug
Member
I said that before in another thread, but I don't think we will see Fable gameplay at this Xbox and Bethesda presentation (or any other this year).
And again, I hope Playground nails it. I never automatically assumed that, just because they do the best racing game on the market currently, they should be handled an RPG. But that also doesn't mean they're incapable either. Guerrilla worked for a long time with Killzone, and then they nailed with Horizon; so they're somewhat a good example (although is debatable if they were ever good at making FPS games to begin with).
Rykan
Member
This again? They won Publisher of the year based on like 3 games. One which was Flight Simulator and the other was Psychonauts 2 which they happened to be the publisher of because they bought double fine after they kickstarted the game.
If any thing, the Xbox showcase this year is interesting....because I have no idea wtf will be there.
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Topher
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Going from Publisher of the Year in 2021 to not having a single game the following year isn't what I would call consistency.
TheGodfather07
Member
it doesnt matter how long it takes as long as the qaulity is there. thats what microsoft need to focus on the most. if the game is really good, nobody will care that it took 6 years to develop.
Bojji
Member
Bethesda soft is too small and obsidian is making other game?
Some actual consistency would be a good thing to hope for.
That usually means year after year. Look at 2011 - 2021 and you will get the idea.
Exactly.
mejin
Member
We've been in this situation for years. The longer MS takes to deliver its games, the greater the expectation.
And the chances of those expectations not being met grow in the same way.
People will be disappointed with certain games because it has become a vicious cycle. At the very least, with each disappointment, more and more people are growing more skeptical of Microsoft's promises.
Papacheeks
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ASA from GameDaily which Gaz is a main on knows a good amount of people. Asa KNOWS his shit, so if GAZ was talking to one of ASA's sources then at least there is some hear behind it could be BS. But with that interview someone posted about them having difficulty and it taking longer than expected. Sorry, but where there is smoke there's fire.
Gaz's source could just be total BS, but things we've heard is that Studio is having trouble with Fable, mainly adapting systems from Forza to a WRPG.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
So following the steps of Peter Molyneux 
In Cold Blood
Banned
Ok. Cool.
In Cold Blood
Banned
Overated studio? Lol
They are the best racing game developer in the world bar none. Polyphony, Turn 10, Codemasters, all can't hold a flame to them.
And as for cut and paste, their games continue to get rave reviews from everyone other than Sony fanboys.
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Mr. Banana
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"scaled down" and "issue" in the same sentence which is about a game developed by Playground immediately sound like a false alarm. If there is anyone who will 100% deliver is Playground Games.
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CeeJay
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5 games actually.
How many of those 5 games released by this time last year? Or do you think they have got nothing coming for the rest of the year?
R3claimer117
Member
Isn’t this just the old rumor from that interview with ex playground dev from months ago being re packaged into a rumor? But it’s an Xbox doom and gloom story so logic need not apply 
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zephiross
Member
They are the best racing game devellopers for people that aren't that interested in car games. FH2 was one of my favorites games, I bought an xbox one and a wheel for this game. But the serie hasn't really evolved, FH5 is basically FH2.4. I struggle to keep playing the game more and more with each entry because I find the games shallow and too focused on eye candy rather than enjoyable racing. I would have much rather had the next FM than FH5.
R3claimer117
Member
You know this to be facts ? Lol
Jesus wtf you’re just talking out your ass. Given playgrounds record? They’ve been damn near Microsoft’s most consistent studio along with coalition.
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Spitfire098
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SirTerry-T
Member
How about this....
Before the official F1 game, the core Dev team had worked on the following, Hostile Waters, Cold Winter, Brian Lara Cricket, 50 Cent-Blood On The Sand.....all clearly the same game, right?
To assume that development staff are incapable of branching out and working in different genres is pretty ignorant.
The people that get hired for positions on a Dev team will have portfolios and code examples showing all sorts of different styles, ideas and routines.
Topher
Gold Member
We knew the 2021 slate of games far earlier than this point last year. As of now, there is nothing slated for 2022. That could change at the showcase, but I'm not expecting anything significant and it is still a massive drop from 2021 unless Phil Spencer pulls a rabbit out of his hat. Don't get me wrong. I hope he does.
Topher
Gold Member
Microsoft didn't own Bethesda at the time that they gave Fable to Playground Games.