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[JackSparr0w]

The 12 GB 4080 is cheaper than the iPhone 14 pro max.

I'll take the GPU any day of the week.

The 12GB 4080 is a rebadged GTX 4070 (using the standard xx70 104 chip) at the price of GTX xx80 TI. How far up Jensen's ass are you to be so blind?

 

[Sosokrates]

It's not just pricing. Aren't you least bit annoyed that your brand new 3090 which you spent a year trying to get is being made obsolete in a couple months time? Don't be a corporate shill please.

It won't have been the first time this has happened.

 

[Ezquimacore]

So you're saying that an RTX 4060 won't have DLSS3? Somehow i don't believe that. Do you have proof?

I mean, the 3060 doesn't have GDDR6X.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

When will we see gaming benchmarks?

 

[Ulysses 31]

Whats the recommended power supply on these? Is there hardware built in to prevent GPU sag?

Or wait for the 1600W version.

Those have PCI-E 5.0 connectors.

 

[chromhound]

they took advantage of the crashing price of crypto and up the prices lol

 

[Ezquimacore]

Sooooo, for the price of 3 complete ps5 systems without optical drive, you get 1 video card which is useless without all the other stuff you have to buy. Sounds like an excellent deal for slightly nicer graphics

Yeah because people that want a graphics card say "well I better buy 3 ps5, well I better buy 6 Switch lite"

 

[bentanchorbolt]

I guess we have to hope that good guy AMD comes in and offers something relatively competitive for a better price.

 

[Fredrik]

Whats the recommended power supply on these? Is there hardware built in to prevent GPU sag?

Nvidia’s specs says minimum 850W.
The Strix and TUF have support brackets in the box. No idea about Founders.

I’ll try to stay away… I want one but I think I would have to upgrade the CPU and screen to take advantage of this thing.

 

[GHG]

The 12GB 4080 is a rebadged GTX 4070 (using the standard xx70 104 chip) at the price of GTX xx80 TI. How far up Jensen's ass are you to be so blind?

I've already said that, my comparison to the iPhone was partly in jest. Keep up and stop crying.

These products aren't for you and that's ok.

 

[tusharngf]

 

[Celcius]

Meh my 3090 ftw3 is still great for now, I’ll reevaluate when the 4090 Ti gets announced.

I’d love to see what evga’s prototype design looked like though now that the 4090 has been announced.

 

[rofif]

What do you consider to be trash? I think 60-90 fps at 1440p for a single player game is decent. It doesn't handle Raytracing very well true, but in the minute to minute play, I'm not really paying much attention to that. The runs smooth to me. If the game was new and I just had to have the best performance available maybe I could see a justification. However, no shot I justify $900 -$1200 to achieve that. Price to performance and applicability just doesn't cut it for me.

If the price for the 16 gb 4080 was say....I dunno $799...I'd probably bite.

It runs 60-90 fps maxed out now? It was the first game I finished on 3080 and it ran around 3-40. I had it locked to 30. But I played 4k, quality dlss and maxed settings

 

[RayHell]

It's not just pricing. Aren't you least bit annoyed that your brand new 3090 which you spent a year trying to get is being made obsolete in a couple months time? Don't be a corporate shill please.

I always find funny those "don't be x shill" comment used to somehow try to discredit any reply to a poor argument.
There's competition in the tech world and if they don't come out with a better product, their competitor will. Lovelace as been rumored for 1 year now, if you bought you card a few month ago well too bad for you.
Also 3090 are sold around 850$ now not 1600$ like a brand new 4090. 3090 will still beat the pricier 4080 in raw performance and you also have more VRAM.

 

[Jigsaah]

It runs 60-90 fps maxed out now? It was the first game I finished on 3080 and it ran around 3-40. I had it locked to 30. But I played 4k, quality dlss and maxed settings

With DLSS, yea. Settings should also be considered. I tried the settings from Gamer's Nexus video. ALso tried DF's settings. They work pretty well for me. I'm not using Raytracing. Not worth it IMO

BTW I'm using a 5800x, and 32 GB of 4000 speed RAM. I don't have a 4k monitor. So I run at 1440p.

 

[Crayon]

I was never going to buy top tier so I can just laugh. For now.... Mid tier pricing this gen could be stupid, too. Pray for amd...

 

[names are for friends]

Read the small print

Yeah they're using frame interpolation to jack up the numbers which also is a benefit of DLSS 3.0 exclusivity. Fuck em

 

[Ulysses 31]

I'll wait for the 4090 TI version of this

 

[LiquidMetal14]

As somebody who runs too high refresh rate panels this could get me the performance that I would want to max out completely everything and run it with next to no frame drop from 120 or 144. Once I can get a grounding on trying to secure one I will gladly sell my Gigabyte Vision 3090 to those who are serious

 

[nightmare-slain]

fuck those prices. i'm done with PC gaming.

 

[Fredrik]

I've already said that, my comparison to the iPhone was partly in jest. Keep up and stop crying.

These products aren't for you and that's ok.

I understand what you’re saying. I still have an iPhone 11, I don’t see why I would need an iPhone 14.
I’ll much rather upgrade my PC.

Problem is, I think I would have to upgrade my whole PC to not feel like everything else is under-specced.

 

[Hot5pur]

Well seems buying a 3080 at around 600 this July wasn't the worst decision. Damn these prices. Even though I can easily afford it there is really no need. Once Raytracing is a bigger deal, maybe, will likely wait till 50xx series to upgrade or whatever they put out in 2 years.

 

[scydrex]

The 12 GB 4080 is cheaper than the iPhone 14 pro max.

I'll take the GPU any day of the week.

What can you do with an Iphone 14 pro max and a 4080 12gb or 16gb? Sure the 12gb is cheaper but you need other components to use it.

 

[GHG]

I understand what you’re saying. I still have an iPhone 11, I don’t see why I would need an iPhone 14.
I’ll much rather upgrade my PC.

Problem is, I think I would have to upgrade my whole PC to not feel like everything else is under-specced.

Depends on what resolution you're gaming at on your PC. If it's 4k or above then as long as you have a mid to high end CPU from the last ~4 years you should be fine.

I'll be taking my 3900X forward with me, no need to do a complete rebuild until the next generation of consoles arrive as far as I'm concerned. Games will be built around the CPU's in the ps5/series consoles so nothing to worry about.

What can you do with an Iphone 14 pro max and a 4080 12gb or 16gb? Sure the 12gb is cheaper but you need other components to use it.

I already have everything else.

And if you're building from scratch there are also a bunch of 2xxx and 3xxx series cards to choose from. Hell, if you're that fucked off with nvidia and their pricing then go with AMD.

The xx80 and xx90 cards have never been geared towards the budget concious system builder but I guess people are entitled whiny bitches these days so this is the result.

People who want and can afford these cards will buy them, end of.

 

[Rickyiez]

Read the small print




1000w

Eh 4080 16GB isn't even that much faster than my 3080 Ti in rasterization . I'm smelling a Fermi this gen , common' Radeon its your chance now .

 

[kyliethicc]

over 1100€ for a 192 bit 104 card … lol

over 1500€ for a 4080 … lol

 

[DaGwaphics]

Maybe once they sell out all the existing 30** chips, they may soft-relaunch at lower price perhaps?
But what I don't get is 12gb 4080. Naming is misleading. It's not 4080 chip in there - it's missing ton of CUDA cores - so it really should be 4070.

The power usage though... urgh. It's going to heat up my small computer room pretty well.

The 3GB 1060 says high.

Prices insane as expected. It's weird because you can see what happened to pricing/demand after the mining crash, I guess we will see how many of these they can sell.

 

[SZips]

Nvidia are out of their damn minds with these prices. And that's some dumb BS with the two 4080 cards. This is a new level of scummy for Nvidia.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Yea….no

Worst xx80 price by a large margin

Keeping my 3080 Ti until 5000 series

I’m only at ultrawide 1440p anyway, upgrade would be overkill.

Kinda jelly about DLSS 3 though

 

[PhoenixTank]

Eh 4080 16GB isn't even that much faster than my 3080 Ti in rasterization . I'm smelling a Fermi this gen , common' Radeon its your chance now .

They announced a date today just before the presentation apparently. I assume this is the announcement of the announcement...
Sorry state of the market right now.

 

[Kenpachii]

Paid 1200 euro's for a 3080, never again. barely used the card.

They announced a date today just before the presentation apparently. I assume this is the announcement of the announcement...
Sorry state of the market right now.

The grifters at AMD will price there cards directly agianst nvidia most likely.

 

[Thebonehead]

Wonder if those 4080 prices are to persuade people to burn through the excess 3080 inventory.

 

[Banjo64]

$1600?

What’s the real world performance gain of this thing over a PS5/Series X?

Fair play to you if you’re buying one of these, but it’s not for me.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Crazy that DLSS is splintered now. A 3.0 version which will be in a small handful of games, while AMD will just keep growing Fidelity FX.

Didn’t think AMD would be helping my 3070ti longer than Nvidia.

 

[GHG]

$1600?

What’s the real world performance gain of this thing over a PS5/Series X?

Fair play to you if you’re buying one of these, but it’s not for me.

3-4x potentially.

 

[Reallink]

The 4080s are both

LOL@ both 4080s being regressions or meaningless improvements over a 3090 in current games. Noones going to pay the $1000-$1400 AIBs are gonna charge for that shit. DLSS 3 support will be far too sporadic to rely on, DLSS been out for half a decade and is still rare as fuck in games. 4090 is gonna fly off the shelves at the $2000 AIBs charge though.

 

[Xyphie]

$1600?

What’s the real world performance gain of this thing over a PS5/Series X?

Fair play to you if you’re buying one of these, but it’s not for me.

Should be around ~4x or so. Higher if RT is involved.

 

[PhoenixTank]

Paid 1200 euro's for a 3080, never again. barely used the card.



The grifters at AMD will price there cards directly agianst nvidia most likely.

That is the "smart" corporate thing to do but I hate it. Really hope it won't be the case.
They gotta make inroads with mindshare like they did for Ryzen, and just matching isn't going to help. Chiplets should increase their ability to undercut... but this all makes me nervous.

 

[TTOOLL]

PC gamers will keep paying a lot of money for cards that will never be fully utilized/optimized.

 

[OverHeat]

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[Quantum253]

Taking the piss with the 4080 prices aren't they?
Performance looks great but... wew lad.

Scalpers were a cleverly disguised PoS to see what price point next gen cards could enter the market (joking of course). 1,599 seems high, (and they will be sold out for months) but I'm betting people will be paying 2,500-3,000 for these things by EoY

 

[DaGwaphics]

Nvidia are out of their damn minds with these prices. And that's some dumb BS with the two 4080 cards. This is a new level of scummy for Nvidia.

I guess we know now that Nvidia meant Beyond Expensive.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Lets, be honest. Its only nutters like me that will buy these cards at these prices so I expect that Nvidia are going to struggle with selling them. the hype doesnt seem to be as high, but maybe thats because I'm not at work today to get wrapped up in it.

 

[xPikYx]

Why the heck 1.199$ are converted in 1.267£?

 

[kruis]

1. It's been 2 years
2. It's called progress

3090 is not obsolete. You can still use it for years and years. It will last you this entire console generation and then some. What you're experiencing is fear of missing out on the best of the best.

Every company exists to make profit. It's not a charity, damn it.

The prices of these new cards don't say progress, they say maniacal greed.
(And it gets worse when you see the euro prices).

These cards are the absolute worst products to launch during the Europ energy crisis (that's only just beginning). Nvidia is fucking crazy if they think these cards will sell for those prices at this point in time.

 

[Mister Wolf]

So now they are combining temporal upscaling with motion interpolation. Nvidia are true mavericks.

 

[Griffon]

I wish that were true but Nvidia has some insane brand power and I wouldn’t underestimate consumer impulsivity.

Nope, people aren't buying new cards at that price. The GTX 1060 is still the most used card on Steam today (and was widely more used during the bulk of 2xxx and 3xxx generations).

Only a few rich people (and miners) can afford to pay cards at 3x the old prices.

 

[PhoenixTank]

Scalpers were a cleverly disguised PoS to see what price point next gen cards could enter the market (joking of course). 1,599 seems high, (and they will be sold out for months) but I'm betting people will be paying 2,500-3,000 for these things by EoY

GymWolf The opposing view of the market for you here. We can't know for sure.
GPU mining is dead, for real this time (please quote me in a year when I'm wrong so I can sink into a deep depression). Covid is done-ish, but we've got inflation causing a cost of living issue but an expected recession on the other end of that.

Why the heck 1.199$ are converted in 1.267£?

1,199 \ 1.14 * 1.20 = £1,262
Dollar price divided by exchange rate, with VAT added on. Pound has taken a beating in the past two years sadly.

 

[stranno]

CP2077 running at 20FPS without DLSS on a 4080 (supposedly). Is that right? That's even lower than a 3090 (4K + RT).

 

[Reallink]

That is the "smart" corporate thing to do but I hate it. Really hope it won't be the case.
They gotta make inroads with mindshare like they did for Ryzen, and just matching isn't going to help. Chiplets should increase their ability to undercut... but this all makes me nervous.

It's actually not a smart business play when you consider AMD represents less than 10% of Steam Survey's dedicated GPUs Vs. Nvidias >90% (and has for more than a decade), but it's what they'll do anyway. They clearly don't have any interest in making inroads in the dGPU space. The fact that they're not preempting Nvidias launch with their overview announcement also tells you everything you need to know about their performance--that they're not even playing in the same ballpark. Nvidia is of course already aware of this from leaks at their component, testing, and manufacturing partners, which is why they priced them where they did.