DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Great game, love it. Poor performance in current-gen console builds.
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Elden ring update 1.09 is out
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alucard0712_rus
Member
There is a bad news for you.
I love it too but it runs bad. This is normal with From. Honestly thinking of not buying another From game if they don't change the engine or learn how to optimize properly their games to run good. Do we need a ps5 pro to run Elden Ring 60fps locked? God...
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nemiroff
Gold Member
Nah I don't think that's it. I for one have 353 hours (!) in it, love the game. We're just having a "I'm on no one's team"-discussion about certain aspects of it.
Dirk Benedict
Member
Bottom has... RT AO?Can you guess which has RT on and which doesnt?
Theres a difference but you'd be surpised to see which one uses RT. Well maybe not you, cuz you're a PC gamer but most would be wrong.
Mr Moose
Member
New feature
Ray Tracing support has been added for PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X and PC versions.
Ray Tracing can be activated in the settings menu:
- PS5 / XSX: Game Options > Ray Tracing
- PC: Graphics > Ray Tracing Quality
WTF
[*]Minimum
- OPERATING SYSTEM: WINDOWS 10
- PROCESSOR: Intel Core i5-10600K or AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT
- MEMORY: 16 GB RAM
- GRAPHIC CARD: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti, 8 GB or AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT, 12 GB
- RECOMMENDED GRAPHICS SETTING: 1080p - Low quality – Low Ray Tracing
Here's a hint, look for the self shadowing on the trees and foilage, no idea what the performance hit is like but it's an ok imporvement without knowing the cost and if it's applied to all light sources or just the sun. Would rather GI but the RT shadows give the vegetation some depth at least.
omegasc
Member
I just saw Lance's tweet and rt made it look worse to me lol
I'll check the game later but like almost everyone else I'd prefer to have performance improvements over this any day.
JeloSWE
Member
You can write a great book with a horrible font.
Yea, they never fixed it because people said the performance was GREAT.
I can only imagine how RT destroys the FPS.
In theory this should look nice - soft shadows with penumbras. In reality it's just some noisy crap. Awful implementation.RT on (high PC) lost about 5fps
RT off
Mephisto40
Member
Well that's the mistake your making, because the PS5 version running in performance mode runs way better than the standard PS4 version running on a PS5 in compatability mode now, this was fixed about a week after release
Honestly do not understand the people still playing the game like this, all you're doing now is gimping the visuals of the game for no reason
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol I love how all it does is soften shadows. Lose 30 fps to get blurrier shadows. amazing!RT on (high PC) lost about 5fps
RT off
does look nice in motion
Wooxsvan
Member
that last phase on NG6 just hits like a truck. you just have to learn all moves and how to mitigate.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I was hoping they would at least optimize performance mode (no RT) more.
intbal
Member
"Slightly reduced rolling travel distance for light equipment weights."
Slightly?
Holy crap, FromSoft. I don't think you understand what that word means.
It's completely nerfed now. Rolls like a heavy load.
I think maybe they got sick of so many people doing nude RL1 speedruns in their game.
Slightly?
Holy crap, FromSoft. I don't think you understand what that word means.
It's completely nerfed now. Rolls like a heavy load.
I think maybe they got sick of so many people doing nude RL1 speedruns in their game.
Nickolaidas
Member
Redownloading the game on my PC. Really curious to see how my 2080ti will fare at 1440p.
StereoVsn
Member
From developers are great at combat and encounter design, art design (Elden Ring is amazing), and many other things.
They are terrible at performance optimization. Every single game of theirs have had issues. Elden Ring has many documented performance related problems.
This RTX debacle is an illustration. Any other dev would at least put in DLSS, FSR or both to offset performance hit. Yet here we are. Not to mentioned performance issues still present in the title which are only somewhat mitigated by a recent top CPUs.
StereoVsn
Member
Yep, it's alright to criticize them for their shortcomings. This shit has been going on from PS3 Demon's Souls (technically even before that).
From/Bamco can afford to hire a few optimization devs, they just don't care.
Nickolaidas
Member
This. They lack tech wizards, and it is unfathomable that after becoming one of the most beloved developers (and all eyes are on them) they refuse to add to their team people much better at optimizing the tech aspects of their wizardry.
From Software games have a history of looking rather flat, with the character often not looking really grounded in the world. I take every bit of more depth, but without DLSS/FSR...
Global Illumination would have been nice. But at least they didn't bother with reflections in a game you barely have any meaningful ones. It's been already a waste of resources in Hogwarts Legacy (on console at least).
Global Illumination would have been nice. But at least they didn't bother with reflections in a game you barely have any meaningful ones. It's been already a waste of resources in Hogwarts Legacy (on console at least).
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
40fps ultra settings/3440x1440 on a 3080 Ti+12900K/32GB VRAM. It's fine inside but once you step outside, your fps gets chopped in half.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
They probably have tried, but objectively without completely re-writing the engine you can't expect a night-and-day difference. And even then if the underlying game code is eating a lot of resources gains by definition will be limited.
There seems to be a misconception that simply drawing stuff faster is enough to transform performance, but that's not always the case. Sometimes its necessary to completely re-think the entire data pipeline top-to-bottom in order to maximize efficiency and minimize bottle-necks.
You can see this in UE5; the impressive advancements Epic have been able to make are 99% data-driven. They've not simply tweaked stuff, they went back to look at the most basic elements like how meshes are constructed and decimated down based on distance/LoD.
Spectacular stuff indeed, but its not without compromise. Look at the Matrix demo and you can see that the cost of all that insane geometric detail was accompanied by an almost complete absence of animation within scene elements. To match the detail on the "actor" objects (like cars) they had to lean hard on buckets of pre-baked Houdini animations.
What I'm trying to say is that there are no free-lunches. Its all consequential, and the more complex a piece of software gets the more these side-effects spiderweb out in all kinds of unexpected directions. Its not like an 8-bit game where you can pull frames back by simply re-writing your scroller routine or your sprite handler!
Lastly, in the case of FROM's stuff, they are clearly working from an established tech-base. Elden Ring is part of a direct lineage that goes back to 2009's Demon's Souls, and was what? Their 4th release with that engine on the PS4/Xbox One era's iteration. Expecting them to completely re-write their entire engine and tool-chain for this one cross-gen release was never realistic, especially given how much was fundamentally shared with these older releases.
Comandr
Member
I mean it has to be the bottom one right? Shadows are drawn further, you can see it clearly on the bushes and trees in the near distance, the player character shadow is also much softer, versus the old very sharp stencil shadow.Can you guess which has RT on and which doesnt?
Theres a difference but you'd be surpised to see which one uses RT. Well maybe not you, cuz you're a PC gamer but most would be wrong.
Edit: Oh I'm late af and everyone already knows the answer.
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Nickolaidas
Member
With RT on? Jesus Christ ...
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Yep. Have you seen the requirements?
OPERATING SYSTEM: WINDOWS 10
PROCESSOR: Intel Core i5-10600K or AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT
MEMORY: 16 GB RAM
GRAPHIC CARD: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti, 8 GB or AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT, 12 GB
RECOMMENDED GRAPHICS SETTING: 1080p - Low quality – Low Ray Tracing
OPERATING SYSTEM: WINDOWS 11
PROCESSOR: Intel Core i7-10700K or AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
MEMORY: 16 GB RAM
GRAPHIC CARD: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti, 8 GB or AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT, 16 GB
RECOMMENDED GRAPHICS SETTING: 1080p - High quality – High Ray Tracing
A 6900 XT for 1080p/High lmao.
NeverYouMind
Member
I will wait until update 1.10 to play it again.
Nickolaidas
Member
Okay, installation complete. I'm going to try it out, see how it's doing on my PC XD
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
I you aren't willing to do raytraced lighting then don't bother.
ZoukGalaxy
Member
Captain Toad
Banned
Was anyone asking for Raytracing? The game needed to do what was needed to run smoother. Adding raytracing is the opposite with very little benefit.
gaming_again
Member
Wait, they did that for PvE too? I thought they only messed with PvP at this point?
intbal
Member
According to the patch notes, the only PvP-only changes were all the magic and AoW debuffs.
The rest of the changes were for both modes.
Nickolaidas
Member
It looks a little better, but nowhere worthy of the performance hit.
gaming_again
Member
gaming_again
Member
Huh, actually reading the patch notes...
Everybody was saying this was supposed to have been the case all along.
My STR/FTH build is a little more interesting now.
Oh, I Command Thee, Kneel ash of war is faster now? That axe was uselessly slow before.
Everybody was saying this was supposed to have been the case all along.
My STR/FTH build is a little more interesting now.
Oh, I Command Thee, Kneel ash of war is faster now? That axe was uselessly slow before.
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skneogaf
Member
Excellent!