rofif
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The ring of timely evasion is so satisfying
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FINAL FANTASY XVI | Prologue DEMO
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rofif
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Finish eikon challenge without easy rings on. It’s nuts.
rofif
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Hdr is using system level settings. You need your ps5 calibrated. Looks great but there is this one YouTuber who goes out of his way to find problems with hdr games.
Someone said that the HDR is off in this game, check your settings its a pretty damn good implementation. All my shots.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
How people are doing in the Eikon Challange without the evasion rings to help? Game can get dark with lots of effects on screen and more enemies gagging on the player… haven’t tried yet but does it get too messy for the player or it’s possible to understand what’s going on all time and properly being able to manually dodge? Because I’ve seen lots of potential on 1vs1 battles but I fear when it gets crowded things get messy. Anyone pushed further and challenged himself already?
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Danjin44
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I would say dealing with crowed in Sekiro was much tougher compare to FFXVI and unlike GOW R the camera in FFXVI is not too close to the character so it was much easier deal with crowed, I never needed to use any of those rings and I dont think I ever will.
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NeoLed
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Not that hard. The mobs aren't too aggresive and normal attack easily stagger them. Elite enemies that have stagger bar usually alone so it's easy to focus to their telegraphed attacks
pleaseinsertdisctwo
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Nothing in FFXVI looks like CGI. Good CGI, anyway. It’s a good looking game but it’s not up to par with the company’s good CGI work.
Vblad88
Member
Well I’m off the FF train for this one. Demo was one hellishly good Game of Thrones episode storywise, but the gameplay … I was worried it will copy DMC5, but in reality this is Greedfall. A battle system „borrowed” from AA game.
Huge letdown. I’m usually against „playing games on YouTube”, but FFXVI seems to be perfectly crafted for that.
Huge letdown. I’m usually against „playing games on YouTube”, but FFXVI seems to be perfectly crafted for that.
Little Chicken
Member
I got back into it and enjoyed myself. This feels like a nice return to form for SE, the demo was compelling from the outset which was so different from XV where you just meandered through the first act at a slow pace. Echoing the "feels like a Game of Thrones" comments because it really did, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
The performance was.... I could've sworn I saw sub-20 fps near the end of the demo. The game looks nice but isn't doing anything technically out of the ordinary in its opening hours, looks like it was being made for PS4 and development switched to PS5 at the tail end.
OST is really good!
The performance was.... I could've sworn I saw sub-20 fps near the end of the demo. The game looks nice but isn't doing anything technically out of the ordinary in its opening hours, looks like it was being made for PS4 and development switched to PS5 at the tail end.
OST is really good!
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Edit: quoted the wrong guy, myself.
March Climber
Just finished the demo and I’m honestly blown away. The gane looks last gen as fuck but it is doing things games stopped doing ten years ago. The setpieces are so epic in scale that i find it hard to imagine them in a last Gen game. Yes they are glorified on rails sequences but the m scale and fidelity of these scenes is unlike anything I’ve played.
I do wish that the character models were better. Joshua looks like he belongs in a different game because his model is next Gen with stunning hair tech while everyone else gets shit hair and their faces look like they were built in the ps3 era.
Overall though, i was the most impressed with the story. This is game of thrones quality stuff and I’m not even exaggerating. I thought naughty dog or cd project would give us something like this but a Japanese dev? Nothing makes sense anymore. Its perfect.
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Danjin44
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Quantum253
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Finished both parts of the demo.
Story:
I'm glad you pretty much play any FF title as your first and it doesnt matter (for continuity sake). Its a little too dramatized in some parts, but I think that's just how Japanese studios write their scripts. I'm interested in the cast of characters. So far, I only find one annoying. It will be interesting how the story progresses from where you leave off from both playable parts.
Combat:
It takes a bit to get used to, but once you do, it's pretty fluid. I found myself fumbling through here and there, and not dodging as I should. Some of the harder fights, there is a lot of stuff going on and can get really confusing with the different holds and swaps you have to do (and fast). I still have to figure out how to get across the room fast and trying to target a single enemy with multiple in the room can be tricky. I found myself using X+■ a lot. Difficulty wasn't too bad, I was able to beat both parts of the demo without dieing. Also,
having O ingrained as dodge, I might change buttons around next time.
Visual:
Started on Performance, but the blur and camera were so bad, I changed to visual and it mostly corrected itself. I don't know if it's a bug in the version, but it made it almost unplayable for me (glad I tried again because it's good). The environments are pretty standard, the assets also look pretty average. However. Character models/ bigger environmental textures/Skybox/lightening/effects look great (should be looked at in bigger spaces than upclose at things in corridors). FOV is a little close so some parts felt like playing Dark Souls.
Overall, its a very good demo. It's FF, but has combat structured more like GoW/Souls/Fable/etc. I will more than likely pick it up because the gameplay is pretty exciting. The story so far....idk...it's interesting, but the combat is where it shines. Hopefully, with the full release, the story picks up. It's a prelude demo after all, so it's not really meant to be that exciting in terms of story at this point
Story:
I'm glad you pretty much play any FF title as your first and it doesnt matter (for continuity sake). Its a little too dramatized in some parts, but I think that's just how Japanese studios write their scripts. I'm interested in the cast of characters. So far, I only find one annoying. It will be interesting how the story progresses from where you leave off from both playable parts.
Combat:
It takes a bit to get used to, but once you do, it's pretty fluid. I found myself fumbling through here and there, and not dodging as I should. Some of the harder fights, there is a lot of stuff going on and can get really confusing with the different holds and swaps you have to do (and fast). I still have to figure out how to get across the room fast and trying to target a single enemy with multiple in the room can be tricky. I found myself using X+■ a lot. Difficulty wasn't too bad, I was able to beat both parts of the demo without dieing. Also,
having O ingrained as dodge, I might change buttons around next time.
Visual:
Started on Performance, but the blur and camera were so bad, I changed to visual and it mostly corrected itself. I don't know if it's a bug in the version, but it made it almost unplayable for me (glad I tried again because it's good). The environments are pretty standard, the assets also look pretty average. However. Character models/ bigger environmental textures/Skybox/lightening/effects look great (should be looked at in bigger spaces than upclose at things in corridors). FOV is a little close so some parts felt like playing Dark Souls.
Overall, its a very good demo. It's FF, but has combat structured more like GoW/Souls/Fable/etc. I will more than likely pick it up because the gameplay is pretty exciting. The story so far....idk...it's interesting, but the combat is where it shines. Hopefully, with the full release, the story picks up. It's a prelude demo after all, so it's not really meant to be that exciting in terms of story at this point
rofif
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The 3 screenshots I posted look like cgi. Absolutely. Not like image you posted but have cgi characteristics not achieved in other gamesNothing in FFXVI looks like CGI. Good CGI, anyway. It’s a good looking game but it’s not up to par with the company’s good CGI work.
Nydius
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Just finished up both halves of the demo and I’m glad I gave it a chance beyond just watching video of gameplay. This is one of those games where watching someone else play really doesn’t do it justice. I went from not being interested at all to being almost sold on a day one purchase.
I say “almost” because I don’t think I’ll miss out by waiting a bit and clearing my current backlog. I’m definitely picking this up, just probably when it’s around $40-ish in a few months.
Soundtrack is spectacular. Love the riffs of the old nostalgic final fantasy iconic themes and jingles.
I say “almost” because I don’t think I’ll miss out by waiting a bit and clearing my current backlog. I’m definitely picking this up, just probably when it’s around $40-ish in a few months.
Soundtrack is spectacular. Love the riffs of the old nostalgic final fantasy iconic themes and jingles.
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Danjin44
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Thats the case in almost all games, I mean love Souls games but its absolute bore fest watching someone else play. I also fucking love turn based JRPGs but they not exactly fun to watch.
The ONLY game that actually fun to watch is Fighting games and only if pro going at it in tournaments like EVO.
GymWolf
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You don't play eikons fights for the gameplay value, just for the spectacle and to push the plot forward.
Thank god most of the game is on foot and those are just rare setpieces.
GymWolf
Gold Member
The game is a semi open world, you are gonna have a fuckton of gameplay not interrupted by 45 min long cutscenes at any given time.
This is not even a debate dude.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Don't really see that in GoT even with the red lady
Unknown Soldier
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The HDR support is broken on this demo. The moment I launch it, my PS5 is forced into SDR mode and everything looks washed out. I can verify this by checking the TV which says HDR is not enabled. I don't know why it's doing this. I made sure HDR is set to Always On in the PS5's settings. Yes, I'm sure my TV supports HDR LMAO, it's not hard to tell HDR is working when I quit the demo and the PS5's main menu screen switches the TV back into HDR mode.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Does it change the button for the evade and lock on? R1 to evade and l1 to lock are so unintuitive.
Dis
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Im going to use my Ring of Timely Payment Arrangements.
PS. I misunderstood you earlier. Apologies-desu
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rofif
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Interesting. No such thing here. Game issues ps5 system level calibration and looks correct
Unknown Soldier
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Did you actually check your TV and does it say HDR, if it doesn't, then you just didn't notice you are in SDR this whole time
Sygma
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Dunno I don't find her that cartoonishly evil. just a status / power obsessed woman disgusted about what she got and rectifying that
rofif
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Yes I did. It says HDR picture profile and reacts properly when I change hgig/dtm.
It's for sure normal hdr. It's not SDR.
PS5 I have calibrated with hgig and set to "on when supported".
lg c1
Unknown Soldier
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Also why on God's Green Earth is Dodge not on Circle by default? Do they actually expect me to unlearn my hundreds of hours in other games where Dodge is Circle just to play this? Why aren't the buttons freely rebindable, Squenix?
Whitecrow
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Make sure that both the tv and ps5 have the same black level setting.
Bojji
Member
B2.
Without VRR franerate is very bad in performance mode, with standard tv i would have to play in 30fps.
Overall after finishing the demo, i think game will be amazing, can't wait for final release.
Physiognomonics
Member
I am glad I played this demo and now I am sure this game is not for me.
Unknown Soldier
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Fucked around with every setting in the PS5's Screen and Sound menu trying to figure out why my HDR was fucked.
Turns out for some reason, and I never bothered to notice this before because every other game I've played never had an issue, but I have to set 120 hz mode explicitly to Off and not Automatic. Even though I have a 60 hz TV and every other game worked fine, including other games I know have 120 hz support. I don't even know why my PS5 is showing this option, why is 120 hz mode even an available option on my 60 hz TV? And why does this game shit itself when I have 120 hz mode left Automatic instead of Off, and bug out and force the PS5 into SDR?
Anyways, it's fixed now. HDR works correctly. Too fucking bad I already played through the whole demo when it looked like shit. Oh well, I guess that means I have to play through it again LMAO
Fucking Dodge not on Circle makes me angry still
Turns out for some reason, and I never bothered to notice this before because every other game I've played never had an issue, but I have to set 120 hz mode explicitly to Off and not Automatic. Even though I have a 60 hz TV and every other game worked fine, including other games I know have 120 hz support. I don't even know why my PS5 is showing this option, why is 120 hz mode even an available option on my 60 hz TV? And why does this game shit itself when I have 120 hz mode left Automatic instead of Off, and bug out and force the PS5 into SDR?
Anyways, it's fixed now. HDR works correctly. Too fucking bad I already played through the whole demo when it looked like shit. Oh well, I guess that means I have to play through it again LMAO
Fucking Dodge not on Circle makes me angry still
saintjules
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Raonak
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Finally caved in and tried the demo.
Hype levels of overdrive now. Gameplay is sublime and the story has me hooked.
Feels like the first time in ages that we finally get a good mainline FF game.
only nitpickd are the graphics are pretty inconsistent, sometimes looking amazing, other times looking plain. and there's a bit of that japanese jank. Kinda lacking that final layer of polish that games like GOW Ragnarok have.
Hype levels of overdrive now. Gameplay is sublime and the story has me hooked.
Feels like the first time in ages that we finally get a good mainline FF game.
only nitpickd are the graphics are pretty inconsistent, sometimes looking amazing, other times looking plain. and there's a bit of that japanese jank. Kinda lacking that final layer of polish that games like GOW Ragnarok have.
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Ronin_7
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I did everything without rings. Pretty easy imo
The true test will be fighting enemies way above your level.
poodaddy
Member
This game just doesn't feel good on anything. Performance had awful frame dropping and the quality mode feels like you're watching a slide show. Here's hoping they clean up the performance a bit before the full release, but that being said......
I really, really liked it. I was even impressed with the English voice acting, which is absolutely a first for me with FF. The gameplay is the best FF has ever been, and it really rewards skill while not necessitating it. Visuals are fine, nothing game changing but the game is pleasant to look at, minus the choppy performance. This is a true Final Fantasy has grown up moment, and the writing is genuinely good. It's a bit more brutal than I was expecting, not one for the kids, but that's totally fine and I enjoy the mature fantasy tales more than the family friendly ones.
Good writing, decent visuals, great gameplay, interesting characters, I mean I'm just very in. I won't be buying on release, but I look forward to trying it in the future. Great direction for Final Fantasy in my opinion.
I really, really liked it. I was even impressed with the English voice acting, which is absolutely a first for me with FF. The gameplay is the best FF has ever been, and it really rewards skill while not necessitating it. Visuals are fine, nothing game changing but the game is pleasant to look at, minus the choppy performance. This is a true Final Fantasy has grown up moment, and the writing is genuinely good. It's a bit more brutal than I was expecting, not one for the kids, but that's totally fine and I enjoy the mature fantasy tales more than the family friendly ones.
Good writing, decent visuals, great gameplay, interesting characters, I mean I'm just very in. I won't be buying on release, but I look forward to trying it in the future. Great direction for Final Fantasy in my opinion.
Johnny Concrete
Member
Ok, so without reading any of this thread and not knowing the general consensus about the demo:
I'm not a Final Fantasy fan by any means and I hate it when a game has a slow opening without much gameplay or when it takes a long time to get to the action.
Having said that: I'm totally on-board after playing this demo and will buy this game for sure now.
There's something about every aspect of the presentation that really hits well with me. Be it the story telling, framing of the camera, editing, sound effects, acting, visual effects and what the fuck: incredible haptic feedback during the cutscenes (this added a lot: you could feel some of the stuff on the screen, like someone grabbing a sword from a sheath). Even with the long cut-scenes I wasn't bored a second.
The graphics are not blowing me away most of the time, but there's something about them that are very pleasing to the eye. The particle effects and things like fire, smoke, electricity, ice shattering, etc are the best I've seen to date.
Combat wasn't too deep yet, but I'm sure it will become a lot more interesting later in the game.
Sold!
I'm not a Final Fantasy fan by any means and I hate it when a game has a slow opening without much gameplay or when it takes a long time to get to the action.
Having said that: I'm totally on-board after playing this demo and will buy this game for sure now.
There's something about every aspect of the presentation that really hits well with me. Be it the story telling, framing of the camera, editing, sound effects, acting, visual effects and what the fuck: incredible haptic feedback during the cutscenes (this added a lot: you could feel some of the stuff on the screen, like someone grabbing a sword from a sheath). Even with the long cut-scenes I wasn't bored a second.
The graphics are not blowing me away most of the time, but there's something about them that are very pleasing to the eye. The particle effects and things like fire, smoke, electricity, ice shattering, etc are the best I've seen to date.
Combat wasn't too deep yet, but I'm sure it will become a lot more interesting later in the game.
Sold!
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Exentryk
Member
The demo is amazing! I didn't want it to end (both story and the Eikonic challenge part). They've done an amazing job with the story and the telling of it. I honestly was expecting the usual FF cringe but damn this is great!
Combat is a little button mashy mainly because enemies have too much health. But it's still fun enough.
I came for the combat but will stay for the story. Bring on the release date!
Combat is a little button mashy mainly because enemies have too much health. But it's still fun enough.
I came for the combat but will stay for the story. Bring on the release date!
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ToadMan
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I don’t think so but it is open to interpretation I guess.
When Clive is on the ground, the Lord Commander looks across and draws Clive’s attention to something, and at that moment the player view switches to First Person - we appear to be seeing through Clive’s eyes and look upon humanoid form of the Ifrit.
So that’s why I don’t think it is Clive, but it’s vague - deliberately so.
There’s the hood guy - who and what he is remains unclear.
Technically this could just be similiar to an out of body experience considering the situation. That said it does seem to be very deliberate.
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Madflavor
Member
Stunned by this. Complete opposite of FF XV’s “traveling emo boy band”.
Looks incredible too….feels like this is the first true “next-gen” game (3 years in….)
I feel like it was an idea that could've worked. The whole "boys on a roadtrip" is a cool concept for a FF game. But they made them as visually bland as possible, and none of them were particularly memorable. Noctis was a decent enough protagonist, but the storytelling wasn't good enough to serve his character and allow him to shine. I beat the game once and never looked back.
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