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FINAL FANTASY XVI | Prologue DEMO
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Madflavor
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hdr if well tuned in my LG c9 makes this game such a pleasure to look at
Mr.Phoenix
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I am almost certain it is... well kinda..
He starts getting those headaches... and the first time he does, he sees the hooded guy, and the second time, he sees the Ifrit spirit. I feel that also has to do with them being at their ancestral place, and while the Phoenix Eikon is usually what comes to their family, the second fire Eikon, Ifrit, probably can too. I feel he unknowingly summoned the Ifrit spirit and had no control over it, but in its primal form..it did do what he wanted it to do. Which was to stop his brother. Thing just went a little too far.
But I fee the real giveaway that it was Clive, was that throughout the timeIfrit was around, whenever we looked at what was happening from Clive's perspective, the image had the exact same hue Joshua has when looking at anything from within an Eikon.
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Madflavor
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From what I'm hearing sometime between June 19th - 21st. It won't be a week early or anything like that.
saintjules
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lol, I've seen a lot of conflicting opinions like this before. Sounds like the Angel/Devil are on their shoulders.
DelireMan7
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I haven't play TotK but it looks fantastic (like BOTW).
From the demo, I'd say Final Fantasy XVI is the big comeback of Final Fantasy. I think it will "beat" (whatever to you mean by it xD) Zelda.
Real game is hopefully better.
For as good as it is, its still very much a jrpg prologue. Very directed, very linear, , story hasn’t really started mechanical introduction and so on.
I don’t like game comparisons. Apples and oranges, different games with different focus who will appeal to different people.
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Little Chicken
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I thought that the 45 minute demo had more story in it than the 50+ hours of TotK I've played. More interesting, too.
But they're wildly different games, so I find it hard to compare them directly because they will both excel in different areas, it just comes down to personal taste.
Efren is G.O.A.T.
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Finished the demo last night and it's everything I wanted it to be!
I'm also a big fan of turn-based but I really didn't care as this combat system just clicked with me.
I'm also a big fan of turn-based but I really didn't care as this combat system just clicked with me.
Hayabusabruh
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Can't get myself to play the second part of the demo. To spoilery. I don't want to see all the abilities I'm gonna get.
rofif
Banned
How can it be spoilers. It’s you playing it
Madflavor
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No, even if FFXVI ends up being truly extraordinary. Zelda will win at TGA 2023.
That said with how loaded this year is, I don't see another Elden Ring situation where Elden Ring swept the GotY Awards on an unprecedented level. TotK won't be everyone's GotY. There will be outlets that give it to FFXVI or Starfield, assuming both those games are great too. I also don't see TotK sweeping the awards at TGA 2023. I think it has GotY on lock, but it's not a frontrunner for the other categories like Narrative, Action/Adventure, RPG, Performance, Music, Art Design, etc.
ToadMan
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Well I just did a bit of wiki reading and the claim there is that Clive does indeed summon Ifrit … so what do I know!
But I did see some articles where the lore of FF16 was complex to the point the dev team needed the Active Time Lore feature to keep track of everything.
So I have a feeling I’ll have to keep the wiki nearby and probably rewatch cinematics to keep track of things.
There’s 2 NPC’s later in the hub that will do that for you and keep track of both lore and political as well as in game events.Well I just did a bit of wiki reading and the claim there is that Clive does indeed summon Ifrit … so what do I know!
But I did see some articles where the lore of FF16 was complex to the point the dev team needed the Active Time Lore feature to keep track of everything.
So I have a feeling I’ll have to keep the wiki nearby and probably rewatch cinematics to keep track of things.
One at least you even get to level up accompanied by some cute animations.
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Thirty7ven
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Do you expect to be taken seriously here?
saintjules
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I'm in the middle of playing the second demo, but I'm pretty pleased with what I've played overall and already had plans to play this day 1.
As mentioned in an earlier post, I went into that Malboro fight with not a real hiccup under performance mode. It felt really good. In the later segments though, I did start to see more of the frame drops people have been experiencing. I think if we've learned anything from demos by now that they seem to represent the final product. However, I do hope the performance mode is a bit more stable at retail because it did feel good when there weren't issues.
I think it's just me getting older (I turn 40 this year), but doing all of the switches between Eikons to use certain elementals will need to keep me constantly thinking on when to switch in and out of those set of skills and how fast I do them. I like the DMC aspect of the combo/switch up systems, but maybe I'm a bit slower on acknowledging when to use them.
Really want to see how the game plays when you're not in those dark areas that the demo provided.
They are their own game with their own features that entices their respective fanbases. The good thing for them is that they are mainly exclusive titles to the hardware they're released on.
I think Zelda has the bigger reach due to the sales we saw, which makes it easily a GOTY contender. On the flipside, I think FFXVI will reel in new players and may even be a potential PS5 Console seller. So it's a win/win in some aspects here.
As mentioned in an earlier post, I went into that Malboro fight with not a real hiccup under performance mode. It felt really good. In the later segments though, I did start to see more of the frame drops people have been experiencing. I think if we've learned anything from demos by now that they seem to represent the final product. However, I do hope the performance mode is a bit more stable at retail because it did feel good when there weren't issues.
I think it's just me getting older (I turn 40 this year), but doing all of the switches between Eikons to use certain elementals will need to keep me constantly thinking on when to switch in and out of those set of skills and how fast I do them. I like the DMC aspect of the combo/switch up systems, but maybe I'm a bit slower on acknowledging when to use them.
Really want to see how the game plays when you're not in those dark areas that the demo provided.
They are their own game with their own features that entices their respective fanbases. The good thing for them is that they are mainly exclusive titles to the hardware they're released on.
I think Zelda has the bigger reach due to the sales we saw, which makes it easily a GOTY contender. On the flipside, I think FFXVI will reel in new players and may even be a potential PS5 Console seller. So it's a win/win in some aspects here.
ToadMan
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Yeah I can see that angle too.
I checked a wiki and that also said it’s Clive inadvertently summoning Ifrit, so I guess the vague way it is presented is to surprise the player with the idea the Clive has indirectly killed his own brother. That raises some interesting possibilities for the story.
Anyway looking forward to getting more of the story next week
Gudji
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Thirty7ven
Banned
It’s a big game, so we old fucks will have plenty of time to grow into the combat mechanics.
Usually I love new game + because I’m deep into the mechanics, and with all the upgrades and customization and play style locked in, it becomes a different experience. I’m glad the devs have talked about new game + and increased difficulty, because that’s when everything comes together.
Games like Witcher 3 and God of War for example, were incredible experiences on new game + because of that.
Balducci30
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yeah I mean it’s not a huge deal to me. The story has sucked me in - which is VERY rare for me with video games. And the cutscenes are beautiful I didn’t realize that big battle was real time
Link_enfant
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Is the game compatible with 3D audio? I usually let this turned off but don't want to miss out for games that support it.
Mr.Phoenix
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Even if Zelda deserved it (not saying it does), I don't think it wins it this year. If FF16 or Starfield is good. They would give it to one of them instead.
feel this year it would come down to which game leaves that lasting impression. And I feel FF16 has that Tlou thing about it. Will be a culture shock of a game.
mckmas8808
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It will be Starfield's award to lose this year. For one reason only.......because it's a new IP. Zelda is a better version of BoTW and FF16 will be viewed as just another great FF game. Starfield and that "new" car smell going on.
Balducci30
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I think it’s RTGI in some way? Like when ur playing as the kid going thru the castle with the fireball floating above you - it looks like whatever lighting they’re using is next level
saintjules
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Are you two people? I'm confused.
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Balducci30
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You really think so? I feel like TOTK is a shoo in right now
AngelMuffin
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Random question. Why do they keep changing the summons’ name? Went from Summons, to Espers, then Eidolons and now Eikons.
Mr.Phoenix
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But I don't think FF has ever won it.
Starfeilds story and the presentation of that story would be just as important.
Madflavor
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I don't think FFXVI will win GotY, but IF FFXVI releases to a 90+ on MC, blows people away, and actually managed to win GotY at TGA 2023, then that would be one of the greatest comeback stories we've seen in gaming. That ain't hyperbole. For a franchise that's been underwhelming two decades to release a critically acclaimed mainline entry, AND manages to beat Zelda TotK and other strong competition? I guarantee you in that situation Yoshi-P would be one of the hottest names in game development, and the execs at Square Enix would throw money at him and his studio for his next project.
DelireMan7
Member
This !
Judging by the demo, it's in my opinion a very probable comeback of the Final Fantasy franchise in gaming. Of course let's see the full game first but I am really enthusiastic
Clear
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FF is potentially in a very strong position as they have ongoing success in the MMO space with 14, they seem to be upholding the established (post PS1) era with the FF7 remake sub-franchise, and so if they manage a critical and popular success with the radical rethink of FF16 I'd say the brand will have hit a new high in terms of broad appeal.
Azaroth
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As a (mostly) non-Final Fantasy person, I'll try to give my demo impressions later when I have a bit more time.
Somewhat tangential question prompted by this demo. My son is 10 years old and loved the combat, but after playing through the demo, I can't in good conscience let him play through this game, the themes and content are just too mature.
Can anyone think of some games with similar combat, that are more kid appropriate? I'm aware of Bayonetta and Devil May Cry. I haven't played them but from what I do know, those aren't something I want him playing at this point either. So I'm wondering if anyone can think of similar games with this level of flashy, action oriented combat that would be more appropriate for a 10 year old.
Somewhat tangential question prompted by this demo. My son is 10 years old and loved the combat, but after playing through the demo, I can't in good conscience let him play through this game, the themes and content are just too mature.
Can anyone think of some games with similar combat, that are more kid appropriate? I'm aware of Bayonetta and Devil May Cry. I haven't played them but from what I do know, those aren't something I want him playing at this point either. So I'm wondering if anyone can think of similar games with this level of flashy, action oriented combat that would be more appropriate for a 10 year old.
Interfectum
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Also recency bias. It's coming out just before GOTY season with only Spider-Man 2 to curb its hype.
touchfuzzy
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Played about an hour of it last night, just up to beating the first mini boss in the swamp-y area. Mostly cinematics so far but had a good time, the cutscene direction and voice acting is S-tier, even if I don't vibe with how lore-heavy the writing is so far. The action is pretty fun even if it's a bit easy, but it's very smooth and feels good.
Pasta la Vista
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It's like Jersey Shore and a K-Pop band had a baby, pure nightmare fuel.
I feel like it was an idea that could've worked. The whole "boys on a roadtrip" is a cool concept for a FF game. But they made them as visually bland as possible, and none of them were particularly memorable. Noctis was a decent enough protagonist, but the storytelling wasn't good enough to serve his character and allow him to shine. I beat the game once and never looked back.
ViciousAgenda
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I want to add that I really love the active lore thingy. Short, easily digested back story for characters and places, more games need this!
vaibhavpisal
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Hifi Rush, if he can git gud at music rhythm.
phant0m
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when you like a game but gotta keep your "internet forum critic" cred
Madflavor
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The emo boy band would've worked if the game starts out and they style themselves in pure Nomura fashion. Then as the roadtrip goes on they get progressively more and more ragged and dirty looking and look like shit, to the point where the find new clothes. But the fact that these guys were dressed like they were going to the club, while they're in the great outdoors, was so off putting.
This is why I couldn't stand the "Rule of Cool" approach to the storytelling we got from XIII and XV.
Pasta la Vista
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poodaddy
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I couldn't give a fuck what you take seriously, I got my opinions you got yours. Love ya boo boo.
Thirty7ven
Banned
It was a rhetorical question.
Shifty1897
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This is a really good question. The best character action games are extremely violent and mature, Bayonetta, Devil May Cry, etc.
It's practically impossible to find now but Transformers: Devastation was probably the best recommendation I could give.
Gudji
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Yeah, everytime I didn't understood or knew who a faction was i'd press the pause button and there it was. And later on the game there will also be a kind of "codex" where you can read everything about the characters and world.