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Starfield | Review Thread

What scores do you think StarfieId will get?

  • 40-45%

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • 45-50%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 50-55%

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • 55-60%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 60-65%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 65-70%

    Votes: 2 0.3%
  • 70-75%

    Votes: 5 0.8%
  • 75-80%

    Votes: 15 2.3%
  • 80-85%

    Votes: 81 12.5%
  • 85-90%

    Votes: 241 37.3%
  • 90-95%

    Votes: 243 37.6%
  • 95-100%

    Votes: 55 8.5%

  • Total voters
    646
  • Poll closed .

DJ12

Member
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Game supports ultrawide
I'm talking about 32:9, just googled and that's refered to as super ultrawide so my bad, and it's definitely not supported.
 

Tomeru

Member
Yeah I was a little off, it's more like 7-8.9.

You typically round up when you have decimal of .5 or higher when converting to a system with no decimals like the X/5 rating system for a little more accuracy.

The conversion of the 0-10 with decimals to X/5 with no decimals is to divide by 2. If the 0-10 system scores a 7 that would be 3.5 in the X/5 system but since there's no decimals and it's .5 or higher it would be round up to a 4.

So if something scores an 4/5 that could mean something between a 7 to 8.9 on the 0-10 system because of the decimals that get lost in the conversion to the X/5.
And here I was under the impression that it simply is (1-2)(3-4)(5-6)(7-8)(9-10)
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Hold Up Wait A Minute GIF by ABC Network


So the official Xbox channel shared this Tweet earlier, and Phil Spencer also retweeted it.



But this photo also has a 5/5 review by Metro.

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But Metro hasn't even published their review yet. It is still in progress.

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And by the looks of it, they are not going to give it a 5/5.

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And there is no other Metro that submitted its 5/5 review on Opencritic. I checked.

So is Xbox straight-up forging photos to inflate their reviews? Or what's going on here?
 

timothet

Member
Hold Up Wait A Minute GIF by ABC Network


So the official Xbox channel shared this Tweet earlier, and Phil Spencer also retweeted it.



But this photo also has a 5/5 review by Metro.

VTjnFBx.jpg


But Metro hasn't even published their review yet. It is still in progress.

rpEyI8U.jpg



And by the looks of it, they are not going to give it a 5/5.

uCaq2MV.jpg


And there is no other Metro that submitted its 5/5 review on Opencritic. I checked.

So is Xbox straight-up forging photos to inflate their reviews? Or what's going on here?

At the bottom of that preview:

"Starfield is one of those games where the list of issues is long and obvious, and yet there’s still something in the core concept that allows the game to transcend its failings. We are enjoying it more now than we did in its opening hours but once we get to the full review, we still can’t imagine giving it any higher than a 6 out of 10."

oof
 

GHG

Gold Member
Hold Up Wait A Minute GIF by ABC Network


So the official Xbox channel shared this Tweet earlier, and Phil Spencer also retweeted it.



But this photo also has a 5/5 review by Metro.

VTjnFBx.jpg


But Metro hasn't even published their review yet. It is still in progress.

rpEyI8U.jpg



And by the looks of it, they are not going to give it a 5/5.

uCaq2MV.jpg


And there is no other Metro that submitted its 5/5 review on Opencritic. I checked.

So is Xbox straight-up forging photos to inflate their reviews? Or what's going on here?


Shameless.
 

poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future

ShaiKhulud1989

Gold Member
Hold Up Wait A Minute GIF by ABC Network


So the official Xbox channel shared this Tweet earlier, and Phil Spencer also retweeted it.



But this photo also has a 5/5 review by Metro.

VTjnFBx.jpg


But Metro hasn't even published their review yet. It is still in progress.

rpEyI8U.jpg



And by the looks of it, they are not going to give it a 5/5.

uCaq2MV.jpg


And there is no other Metro that submitted its 5/5 review on Opencritic. I checked.

So is Xbox straight-up forging photos to inflate their reviews? Or what's going on here?

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That’s two stars from The Guardian btw. Also IGN Spain and no main IGN lol.
 

graywolf323

Member
it’s kinda crazy to me that RPGFan gave it a 98, so I was curious and looked it up, the reviewer also gave The Outer Worlds a 90 (!) while only giving Xenogears a 85 & Tales of Symphonia a 60 🤨

 

Banjo64

cumsessed
Hold Up Wait A Minute GIF by ABC Network


So the official Xbox channel shared this Tweet earlier, and Phil Spencer also retweeted it.



But this photo also has a 5/5 review by Metro.

VTjnFBx.jpg


But Metro hasn't even published their review yet. It is still in progress.

rpEyI8U.jpg



And by the looks of it, they are not going to give it a 5/5.

uCaq2MV.jpg


And there is no other Metro that submitted its 5/5 review on Opencritic. I checked.

So is Xbox straight-up forging photos to inflate their reviews? Or what's going on here?

10/10 IGNORANT FUCKS
 

solidus12

Member
Might prove to be useful to some people who have struggled with the early game:

Imagine doing a video explaining how to enjoy a highly anticipated video game that was referred to as a game of the generation.
 

Hugare

Member
Hold Up Wait A Minute GIF by ABC Network


So the official Xbox channel shared this Tweet earlier, and Phil Spencer also retweeted it.



But this photo also has a 5/5 review by Metro.

VTjnFBx.jpg


But Metro hasn't even published their review yet. It is still in progress.

rpEyI8U.jpg



And by the looks of it, they are not going to give it a 5/5.

uCaq2MV.jpg


And there is no other Metro that submitted its 5/5 review on Opencritic. I checked.

So is Xbox straight-up forging photos to inflate their reviews? Or what's going on here?

This is hilarious

I just read Metro's preview and they kinda hated it

I'm imagining their reaction after seeing the 5/5 on the image.
 
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Raven117

Gold Member
Ya know...spent a little more time with it. And yeah...its clunky, especially in the beginning. But ya know what? Its also pretty awesome if you can just settle in and take it slow...not in big ol gulps.
 

Red5

Member
So the official Xbox channel shared this Tweet earlier, and Phil Spencer also retweeted it.



But this photo also has a 5/5 review by Metro.


But Metro hasn't even published their review yet. It is still in progress.



And by the looks of it, they are not going to give it a 5/5.



And there is no other Metro that submitted its 5/5 review on Opencritic. I checked.

So is Xbox straight-up forging photos to inflate their reviews? Or what's going on here?


Occam's Razor. Most likely a mistake considering it's one error while all the others are all true, judging by the sea of positive reviews they're not short on good ones to fill that picture.

Saying it's forgery is really reaching.
 

devilNprada

Member
I love Elder Scrolls and Fallout games, the main draw for me being the exploration & world building elements. .
This.
I asked several times never got an answer.. Does this exist? Can you build anything other than a spaceship (I.E. communities on other planets)?
Is the building your own space ship a limited selection similar to Skyrim, or can you design and model it more like Fallout 4?

I spent hours designing forts in Fallout 4 which at the time was great, but would expect a version today is much less clunky.
 

ZehDon

Member
This.
I asked several times never got an answer.. Does this exist? Can you build anything other than a spaceship (I.E. communities on other planets)?
Is the building your own space ship a limited selection similar to Skyrim, or can you design and model it more like Fallout 4?

I spent hours designing forts in Fallout 4 which at the time was great, but would expect a version today is much less clunky.
Yes, you can build outposts on planets and have people live in them. It’s not immediately available, and takes time to unlock everything to make it work, so it’s not something people in the early game are talking about.

The ship building is kit based, but it’s expansive. You slot lots of individual pieces together to make your ship. People have made everything from X Wing look-a-likes to the Event Horizon. You can then staff it with your various followers, or your companions.
 

SRTtoZ

Member
I get back bars, and it's not like the Internet doesn't confirm this is the case.

I'm guessing you have gpu scaling turned on or something.
Ulta Wide works fine. The only time it doesn't work is in beginning menus. Once you load the game it works.
 

Topher

Gold Member
Hold Up Wait A Minute GIF by ABC Network


So the official Xbox channel shared this Tweet earlier, and Phil Spencer also retweeted it.



But this photo also has a 5/5 review by Metro.

VTjnFBx.jpg


But Metro hasn't even published their review yet. It is still in progress.

rpEyI8U.jpg



And by the looks of it, they are not going to give it a 5/5.

uCaq2MV.jpg


And there is no other Metro that submitted its 5/5 review on Opencritic. I checked.

So is Xbox straight-up forging photos to inflate their reviews? Or what's going on here?


Greenberg being Greenberg?
 
Might prove to be useful to some people who have struggled with the early game:


Great. Now I just need a video on how to enjoy the how to enjoy starfield video
 

devilNprada

Member
Yes, you can build outposts on planets and have people live in them. It’s not immediately available, and takes time to unlock everything to make it work, so it’s not something people in the early game are talking about.

The ship building is kit based, but it’s expansive. You slot lots of individual pieces together to make your ship. People have made everything from X Wing look-a-likes to the Event Horizon. You can then staff it with your various followers, or your companions.
Thanks... See this kind of stuff needs to be in reviews... Can't wait until we start seeing youtube videos of people recreating the Taj Majal.
 

Topher

Gold Member
Over 70 hours in the game. I'm not going to say my previous complaints are any less valid, but they are no longer as glaring as they once were. The biggest problem with the game remains the choice to build on the same old engine. That was a mistake. But beyond that, the quests are fantastic. The characters are memorable. The story overall is great. Ship combat could still be better, but that doesn't mean it isn't fun in its own way. Targeting engines and boarding ships is a wrinkle that most other games don't have and that helps a great deal. The ship building is a bit clunky and I wish there was a way to save progress and come back to a build later. The in-person combat has turned out to be a lot better than I expected and that has a lot to do with what happens in the story, which I am not going to spoil here. And yes, the game is slow burn in the beginning, but when it hits its stride it is simply fantastic.

The thing is after 70 hours there is already a ton I haven't even touched. I've only completed a single faction quest line. The amount of content here is incredible. This is prime Bethesda, the good and the bad. Those of us who said this was a game that we would play and replay for a long time....I think this game validates that claim. Not perfect, but it is still a fantastic game.

As of right now, I'd give this game a solid 9/10. On to the next 70 hours.
 
I don't have a ton of time in it (10 hours? I'd have to look the next time I boot) and the game is fine so far.

I wouldn't call myself a fan of BGS since the only game of theirs I actually put more than 10 hours into was Fallout 3 which I liked but never finished it with about 50 hours I believe. The general gameplay is Starfield is much much better then I remember Fallout 4 and Skyrim being. The shooting overall feels pretty good. We aren't talking COD or Doom 2016 but it's good. Exploration is "fine". My problem is everything is basically just fast travel, and most of the worlds I've been too haven't been enticing to actually explore on foot.

I don't think I'm going to end up finishing it, but I do see myself playing some more. I know I've heard the first 10-15 hours are boring but as it stands now it seems like a pretty good 7/10.
 
That's been the fear for a while among a lot of Bethesda faithful, I'm sure: that the standard Bethesda formal won't be as impressive in the 12 years since Skyrim came out. It's a multitude of confounding factors, too: not just in how other games may handle elements of their open world, but even stuff like art style, musical score, in-universe lore/story elements and so forth. Everything can enhance or detract from everything else, one way or another.

The influence of Skyrim on all the games you just mentioned can't be understated, but, and again this is just from some impressions I've seen from a few online (those who seem like they should've liked it, FWIW), it doesn't seem like Starfield has taken enough inspiration from those games and added unto them. Part of the reason might be due to engine limitations, but there's also the possibility Bethesda got too insular during the course of the game's development.

They have their own vision and that's 100% respectable, but in this industry, especially for these big AAA games, you still have to make sure your vision is somewhat in sync with other games on the market. And I do feel extra pressure was thrust onto Starfield due to the acquisition, but those are kind of just the cards Bethesda were dealt to play. No helping it in a sense.



Dude there are people who regularly replay Souls games multiple times with different builds just to experiment and get better at the game. Someone else said something like this earlier ITT. Bethesda games aren't necessarily unique in that respect.
I would rather Bethesda continues to do what they do and not worry about being in sync with the market or anything of that nature. I love all kinds of games but I just can't get with the "it's dated" perspective. I get where people who say that are coming from, but I'd rather have a new Bethesda game than most of what I played the past ten years just because of what they are. I still love Morrowind. They're just special to me.

I was wanting Starfield to be great but I had a lot of anxiety for a few reasons, one being that space is not exactly my favorite setting (I'd have rather had TES VI..), but I was willing to give it a go. Also, once early access came and a lot of negative sounding impressions came through I was even more anxious, but after playing it I'm loving it. Again, I get where people are coming from, but it's about what I expected and I'm enjoying it a lot. I'd rather Bethesda keep doing what they're doing and other companies continue to do what they do best. Even if some other games have done "aspects" better in some form or another, there's just not much in the way of similar games on a fundamental, overall level IMO. And if there are, I'd definitely love to hear about them so I can go play them. I don't find a lot to be directly comparable even if Bethesda themselves have been slowly cutting their deeper features for years sadly.
 
How much of Starfield’s explorable areas are seamless like Skyrim’s? It’s not just explorable areas, it’s areas you explore without meeting a loading screen. All the areas in the world don’t mean anything if you have to constantly load them in and break immersion.
Skyrim has loading for vendor shops, loading for major towns, loading for caves/dungeons, castles inside of towns, sewers, etc. I understand what people mean but a lot of times I see it written as if Skyrim is one cohesive instance.
 
so David Jaffe is now calling Starfield his favorite single player game ever, the replies are going about as you’d expect because that is quite the statement



He had been trying to distance himself from PS, as a way of proving his impartiality, and the results are just fascinating. Between the over-zealous shilling for gamepass, to a game being riddled with baffling game design decision becoming his favourite title of all times...
 

K2D

Banned
Hold Up Wait A Minute GIF by ABC Network


So the official Xbox channel shared this Tweet earlier, and Phil Spencer also retweeted it.



But this photo also has a 5/5 review by Metro.

VTjnFBx.jpg


But Metro hasn't even published their review yet. It is still in progress.

rpEyI8U.jpg



And by the looks of it, they are not going to give it a 5/5.

uCaq2MV.jpg


And there is no other Metro that submitted its 5/5 review on Opencritic. I checked.

So is Xbox straight-up forging photos to inflate their reviews? Or what's going on here?


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Scandinavia Represent!

Just wanted to grab your Phil Twitter post, did not expect an exposé lol..!
 

sinnergy

Member
He had been trying to distance himself from PS, as a way of proving his impartiality, and the results are just fascinating. Between the over-zealous shilling for gamepass, to a game being riddled with baffling game design decision becoming his favourite title of all times...
A game can reach different audiences , and be amazing , even with bugs en in your opinion weird game design .
 
Starfield - Empty Spaces (Review) 4/10
oooff jim didn't hold back !
While Starfield’s galaxy is nebulously “big,” its vast array of barren planets populated by recycled assets is absolutely no justification for what this thing truly is - just another buggy Bethesda game following an ancient blueprint that hasn’t evolved creatively or mechanically since Fallout Fucking 3.
People have referred to Starfield as No Man’s Skyrim, and while some have intended that as a slight against this game, I actually think it’s more insulting to Hello Games’ work. No Man’s Sky at least had a universe you could seamlessly explore, with planets you were able to approach and land on in real time. That was actually ambitious. Starfield’s planets can be flown to manually over the course of hours, but you can’t land on them without a menu, loading screens (get used to seeing those), and dull cutscenes.
For a game that’s been praised for how “immersive” it is, I can’t help but note how much I'm pulled out of the experience by an excessive amount of copypasta masquerading as natural terrain. It makes even Dragon Age II’s map design look diverse.
To call Starfield the least broken Bethesda game is akin to calling any single TERF the least embarrassing fascist.
Starfield is a shallow ocean, hiding its lack of creative ambition behind the physical size of a universe that’s minuscule where it counts.
 

GHG

Gold Member
I don't believe Jimquisition gets counted towards Metacritic. It does for OC though and might bring it down a peg.

Them/They are on metacritic:

 
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