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[Mr Moose]

I hope they do a physical release if it comes to PS5. I wanted a physical release last year when they shadow dropped it on Gamepass, but they never bothered to do it.

I think they make more money from digital, but yeah physical is always better imo.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

So it turns out it's actually HFR on PS5 and not Switch? Maybe?

He literally told a day ago that it would go to Switch

 

[Punished Miku]

I said it recently, some folks like to talk about revenue....well here you go.

In other words....money talks.

On a related note, Its just wild how the talk went from CoD being exclusive...to this. I remember some of us saying when the acquisition was announce CoD being exclusive would be risky, a bad move.

.....some ppl still think it's possible, part of some next gen strategy by MS to sell Xbox consoles starting in 2027, 2028....

Its been a wild 2 years.

No one but PS fans freaking out ever thought CoD was going exclusive. It was announced from minute one as staying multiplatform.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

D Darsxx82 you keep responding with lazy emojis but you've yet to respond where there is a breakdown in my analysis.

 

[Banjo64]

I was thinking of understanding what was the reason for distorting, misinterpreting and ignoring the context of that phrase...... But I saw that it was you and so there was no need to understand

 

[jroc74]

No one but PS fans freaking out ever thought CoD was going exclusive. It was announced from minute one as staying multiplatform.

?

I don't have the energy to even get into this revisionist history.

 

[RickMasters]

They way they continue to drag this out. May aswell just get out of the hardware biz.



Xbox gamers may aswell build steam boxes or get a nice all in one like a Corsair one or ASUS or something, for gamepass ( you can even play Sony games on their too these days) and buy a Nintendo for the other stuff.


What MS should do is assist that by making all BC games and our entire libraries migrateable to PC. We can already use all our Xbox’s. They will lose their Xbox audience but I don’t think they are all that bothered. They are playing a different game now.



I have said in the past that subs are the future. Maybe Xbox is what is stopping them buying the whole gaming biz ( which is what they would like to do anyway) as a third party publisher they will face less backlash in achieving this from the likes of the CMA…. Because Xbox won’t be a thing. Gamepass will be though.

In the end… they get what they want. They always do.
Sony fans will be upset…because those games will be locked to a service that is not on PlayStation . And even Xbox fans will be upset…because they no longer have a console to shout about… but they will get over it. Just as sega fans did before them. Just as Atari fans did ever so long ago. The industry will continue to evolve and change .. the rest of us won’t care because we will have custom consoles made from PC parts that play everything. Whether by way of subs, emulation or whatever the hell else. Welcome to the future


I guess the PC master race thing really is a thing after all. I think even Nintendo will … get with the times… eventually. Only seems shocking right now, but when it happen it happens. Times change.

 

[Tsaki]

It seems they wanted it on the Switch as well but it couldn't run the (imo necessary for the type of game it is) 60fps target so they scraped that build. Probably will launch on Switch 2 day 1, that will make it sell gangbusters

 

[Heisenberg007]

Not to mention people are looking to get rid of subscription services. Not add them.

if Xbox had added a significant number of subscribers they would have announced it to the moon.

Yes, almost all subscription services (including Game Pass) have stagnated. Phil Spencer also confirmed in the court that Game Pass has not grown since they announced 25 million subscribers 2 years ago in January 2022.

 

[GHG]

D Darsxx82 you keep responding with lazy emojis but you've yet to respond where there is a breakdown in my analysis.

It's what he does, emoji spam and post like a pre-pubescent child, it only results in people being blunt with him.

It's a waste of time.

 

[xHunter]

Grubb thinks Sea of Thieves might also come to other platforms

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Grubb thinks Sea of Thieves might also come to other platforms

Makes a lot of sense.

 

[Heisenberg007]

PS+ day one launch wound be entertaining.

Exclusive DualSense features will be sufficient enough.

 

[Horseganador]

They have waited for Christmas to pass and liquidate all possible stock at a low price so that this "becoming a third party" and releasing games on Nintendo and PS comes to light, it was very clear that something changed at MS since Nadella himself removed the GP of your bonus target.

It makes no sense to release Hifi rush only on Switch, it is clear that it will be released on both (Switch and PS5) and on top of that if it is released on PS5 pro it will be the best version, compatible with dualsense and in physical version it would be too much.

 

[ulantan]

Exclusive DualSense features will be sufficient enough.

Starfield releasing later this year with even mild ps5 pro support would signal the end of Xbox

 

[Heisenberg007]

It's what he does, emoji spam and post like a pre-pubescent child, it only results in people being blunt with him.

It's a waste of time.

In their defense though ...

 

[adamsapple]

adamsapple
Might wanna redo your gif, just in case.

 

[mayham2199]

Yes, almost all subscription services (including Game Pass) have stagnated. Phil Spencer also confirmed in the court that Game Pass has not grown since they announced 25 million subscribers 2 years ago in January 2022.

It's crazy to me how no one see's how big of a deal that is. It was almost a full year and your sub hasn't grown at all? That would be worrying to any sub service.

 

[Punished Miku]

Exclusive DualSense features will be sufficient enough.

I guess those dual sense ads for every game really do have a purpose.

 

[Team Andromeda]

It's crazy to me how no one see's how big of a deal that is. It was almost a full year and your sub hasn't grown at all? That would be worrying to any sub service.

No doubt you thought it was the end of PS when Wipeout was announced for the Satrun and N64 *rollseyes*

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

 

[GHG]

Grubb thinks Sea of Thieves might also come to other platforms

 

[DJ12]

Of course they have, you really think game hardware and software prices would have been the same with no xbox one or series x?

Lol one of the companies sells or did sell at least their console for a $200 loss.

And they are the ones stopping the other company from charging more?

Also wasn't ps4 $100 cheaper than xbox one lol

Sony know the market, and price according regardless of the 'competition' from Microsoft.

 

[THE DUCK]

I didn't ask if it was the same as gamepass. I asked does the platform give you instant access to hundreds of games regardless of when you subscribed

If your answer to that is genuinley a no then you really are daft

It's a pointed question that igores the entire content of the thread, who cares if the answer is yes or no. Both Onlive and Gaikai predated Sony, so what's your point there? None of the 3 of them were similar to gamepass, which offered local download in mass first, and why it started to become more popular. Even if you are "right" your entire point is moot in terms of the context of this thread.

Imagine us having a debate on fast food hamburger sales. You directly ask if Mcdonalds created hamburgers. I say no. Then you run around declaring them irrelevent to hamburgers sales. It's nonsense.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Imagine Forza Horizon 5 on PS5.
Man those Xbox twitter accounts would lose it over something like that

 

[DJ12]

You mean the weak attempt at trying to compete with gamepass that basically failed? Yes I do.

Clown. Give up already.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Pubs can enforce it like they did with steam.

Publishers are going to force all games to be streaming only now?

If that’s the case, it’ll be happening on all platforms.

 

[THE DUCK]

Lol one of the companies sells or did sell at least their console for a $200 loss.

And they are the ones stopping the other company from charging more?

Also wasn't ps4 $100 cheaper than xbox one lol

Sony know the market, and price according regardless of the 'competition' from Microsoft.

Your lost if your really believe sony would be selling any hardware at a loss if xbox wasn't around. Of course there is a "max" hardware price consumers will pay, but we were not there. You really think ps5 would have been $499 during the pandemic and hardware shortages? Hell no.

 

[THE DUCK]

Clown. Give up already.

Basic understanding of the two services would help you a lot. Maybe do some reading.

 

[DJ12]

Just a reminder: I was predicting that Starfield would be coming to PS5. I am feeling better than ever about that prediction. I expected it would be 2 years, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens 1 year after launch.

Stick to 2 years, might actually be fixed then.

 

[Darsxx82]

It's what he does, emoji spam and post like a pre-pubescent child, it only results in people being blunt with him.

It's a waste of time.

I imagine this is what you say also after reviewing your history here... ??

 

[RyanEvans21]

Apparently even that doesn’t bring anything to the table..



If you really think about it Microsoft has absolutely no idea how to run a profitable business.. that company has been in a gutter for so long it’s truly astonishing that they are still a thing.

They have a lot of ip's now. The only problem how do they manage now? unlike before.

 

[GHG]

I imagine this is what you say also after reviewing your history here... ??

No, in that situation this is what I say:

 

[DJ12]

Basic understanding of the two services would help you a lot. Maybe do some reading.

Ah the classic response of someone proven wrong already. You don't understand what you are talking about so do what people do in this situation.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

 

[2612]

At this point, I expect to see Phil in the next PlayStation Showcase.

 

[Punished Miku]

At this point, I expect to see Phil in the next PlayStation Showcase.

If he gets an award from PS fans, that will be my breaking point.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

MS setting the stage for arguments against their next big acquisition by dropping crumbs on on their competitors. /s

 

[LordCBH]

At this point, I expect to see Phil in the next PlayStation Showcase.

 

[RyanEvans21]

At this point, I expect to see Phil in the next PlayStation Showcase.

The only question is when the next PS Showcase

 

[EverydayBeast]

Halo on PlayStation is fascinating, saying “halo on PlayStation” in 2008 you’d get laughed at.

 

[Astray]

Really? Reading through this thread I got the impression it was already a done deal. MS has already closed the Xbox hardware division, and all their teams are busy working on porting all of their games to PS5.

Xbox may go 3rd party someday but porting a game, likely Hi-Fi Rush to Nintendo, is NOT proof they are going 3rd party. It's more like wishful thinking by Sony fanboys than actual proof and continuously repeating it as if it's a fact is not going to make it happen.

3rd party is certainly a possiblity, even a strong one if you will (Sea of Thieves PS5/SW rumors just dropped, it's not even a slow trickle of news about this shift, it's a whole torrent of news). But I think MS could change its mind at any moment.

The thing about MS being as gargantuan as it is, you gotta keep in mind that all it takes to start or delete a division is just an email from a higher-up like Satya, so it can be very unpredictable to outsiders like us, hell, even people who have reasonable access like Jez are getting blindsided!

 

[RyanEvans21]

If he gets an award from PS fans, that will be my breaking point.

You lose yourself over brand or person? who doesnt care about you?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Most MS first party games i dont care about.

But if any old Gears games go on PS or Nintendo, try them out if you never played them. Pure meathead shooter, but the key thing is the slip sliding cover system which you'll be hiding behind tons of 90 degree concrete blocks. It's inane, but a blood splattering good time. Being good at grenade tossing is tough even when it shows an arc. They dont go far like COD where you can throw a football field away. Game gets repetitive so dont burn yourself out playing Gears 1. So if the backlog includes many Gears games, just start with Gears 3. Dont worry about the story. It's space marines vs. aliens where you kill everything that moves.

 

[Punished Miku]

You lose yourself over brand or person? who doesnt care about you?

Don't make me explain a joke. Just kills it ...

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I expect Microsoft to acquire the next publisher and claim to the regulators that they release games multiplatform so they are not foreclosing anybody.

 

[RyanEvans21]

Don't make me explain a joke. Just kills it ...

I'm not sure if you are joking or not.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Although this deserves a separate thread, this shows why Xbox is making these moves. Hi-Fi Rush accounted for less than 1% of engagement in 2023 - despite being available on Game Pass.

 

[Orbital2060]

Is there a reason not to do that?

For the two fronts in the discussion, it seems tough to come to terms with reason.

One side wants Xbox to keep all of the IP exclusive and see this as mutiny from the greater cause, and the other side wants to make the idea of Microsoft publishing on other platforms to mean that they are not making consoles anymore. Theyre both at the same point on the circle and not seeing the larger picture which is not about Xbox or PlayStation, but how to publish their IP on as many platforms and devices as possible.

 

[Nonehxc]

If he gets an award from PS fans, that will be my breaking point.

Best Sony CEO ever goes to...

Phil Spencer!

Ass of Can Whooping we need a Scooby Doo gif where they unmask Phil Spencer but then is Mark Cerny saying 'Pretty Cool, right?' or something like that.