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yuzu will pay $2.4 million in damages to Nintendo to settle their lawsuit
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Draugoth
Gold Member
So it's the project dead?
Well fuck me, i dont trust Nintendo on preserving games whatsoever, but considering they got millions on this it was just a question of time.
The project is open source so it's likely other people will pick on this and continue development.
Well fuck me, i dont trust Nintendo on preserving games whatsoever, but considering they got millions on this it was just a question of time.
The project is open source so it's likely other people will pick on this and continue development.
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Topher
Gold Member
Of course. Point is just that the source code will remain widely available.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Oh my fucking God. 4 thousand.There are over 4.2k forks of yuzu on github.
Forks · yuzu-emu/yuzu
Nintendo Switch emulator. Contribute to yuzu-emu/yuzu development by creating an account on GitHub.github.com
Hydra on steroids.
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ReyBrujo
Member
It will stay underground though, without a body pushing it forward. And USD 2.4m is a good deterrent for anyone wanting to build such team again.
Astray
Member
My guess is Nintendo will use the part to as justification to DMCA all of the Yuzu forks. Github complies with DMCAs.
LordOcidax
Member
Install a software made by a Russian hacker group in your PC is not really smart.
ReyBrujo
Member
The amount of forks is irrelevant. Github will likely get a subpoena to take them all down due DMCA, same with other copies in Sourceforge (anyone remember that!?), Gitlab, etc.
LordOcidax
Member
I think that the source code is now illegal… and the creators signed.
Holammer
Member
I don't think shader comp stutter is worse in Ryujinx nowadays (it might even be better). It is more demanding, but if you have a reasonably recent CPU there's no problem.
Yuzu is great if you have a decade old CPU.
Puscifer
Member
Gary Bowser, but team xecuter is making that rom dump cartridge.
Topher
Gold Member
Hmmm, going to be interesting to see if Nintendo takes any steps with that. Having source code removed from an open source repository could make some serious waves.
They can agree and sign, but that doesn't make it illegal. Doesn't matter. If Nintendo sends a DMCA request to github then no doubt github complies. They are not going to fight that fight.
Spitfire098
Member
Nintendo lawyers be like:
Topher
Gold Member
Plenty of people said in the other thread that that this would never go to court because Nintendo had vastly superior legal resources as well.
bender
What time is it?
You sound like his mom.
LordOcidax
Member
You know that is exactly what is going to happen… Nintendo lawyers don’t waste time.
Topher
Gold Member
Probably. Not sure how well that will go over though. Not that Nintendo cares.
Kenpachii
Member
LordOcidax
Member
Lol, that was fast.
Topher
Gold Member
Nintendo's lawyers have a hell of a lot of work in front of them. They have to file an individual DMCA takedown request for all 4.2k forks, which may have forks of their own, according to github policy.
Example:
dmca/2024/03/2024-03-01-kpler.md at master · github/dmca
Repository with text of DMCA takedown notices as received. GitHub does not endorse or adopt any assertion contained in the following notices. Users identified in the notices are presumed innocent u...
github.com
Guide to Submitting a DMCA Takedown Notice - GitHub Docs
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docs.github.com
DMCA Takedown Policy - GitHub Docs
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ReyBrujo
Member
You would have downloaded it anyways today, tomorrow or in 30 years. That's how internet works, if you know where to search you will find it.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
I have a 5600x which is pretty good but the last time I tried ryu it was worse performing than yuzu on all fronts and I don't think the compatibility gain was worth jt
Astray
Member
Yeah.. Policy or no policy, if they get a complete and valid DMCA takedown notice they have to take it down or they risk losing safe harbor status due to DMCA non-compliance.Nintendo's lawyers have a hell of a lot of work in front of them. They have to file an individual DMCA takedown request for all 4.2k forks, which may have forks of their own, according to github policy.
Example:
dmca/2024/03/2024-03-01-kpler.md at master · github/dmca
Repository with text of DMCA takedown notices as received. GitHub does not endorse or adopt any assertion contained in the following notices. Users identified in the notices are presumed innocent u...
Guide to Submitting a DMCA Takedown Notice - GitHub Docs
Get started, troubleshoot, and make the most of GitHub. Documentation for new users, developers, administrators, and all of GitHub's products.DMCA Takedown Policy - GitHub Docs
Get started, troubleshoot, and make the most of GitHub. Documentation for new users, developers, administrators, and all of GitHub's products.
This will likely be an event they will have eyes out for too.
ReyBrujo
Member
That's probably a job for those in internship at Nintendo.Nintendo's lawyers have a hell of a lot of work in front of them. They have to file an individual DMCA takedown request for all 4.2k forks, which may have forks of their own, according to github policy.
Example:
dmca/2024/03/2024-03-01-kpler.md at master · github/dmca
Repository with text of DMCA takedown notices as received. GitHub does not endorse or adopt any assertion contained in the following notices. Users identified in the notices are presumed innocent u...
Guide to Submitting a DMCA Takedown Notice - GitHub Docs
Get started, troubleshoot, and make the most of GitHub. Documentation for new users, developers, administrators, and all of GitHub's products.DMCA Takedown Policy - GitHub Docs
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tkscz
Member
I decided to look into what Ryujinx does differently than Yuzu
1. Their patreon page makes 5.7% of what Yuzu's page made a month ($1,700 vs $30,000 monthly).
2. They do NOT offer forms of access for contributing to the patreon. No mentions of early access to different versions of the emulator for money.
3. Doesn't tell anyone how to dump games or keys as far as I can tell (didn't sign up so I can't see everything like whats on their discord channel).
4. They didn't get Zelda up and running on Ryujinx days before it released, so the pirating that happened couldn't be pointed to them.
5. As far as I can tell they don't come off as a company like Tropic Haze does, though I assumed they were just a group of random programmers and not a company
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yankee666
Gold Member
My exact thoughts.
Did they profit with this emulator?
Astray
Member
%100 they did imo.
tkscz
Member
Their patreon page made $30,000 a month after they got Zelda up and running on Yuzu before the game was officially released to the public. Pretty sure that's what put them on Nintendo's radar to begin with.
Pegasus Actual
Member
The DMCA is poop.
Topher
Gold Member
Didn't say otherwise. Github's policy for DMCA takedown's is their method of compliance. Unless Github makes an exception, Nintendo will have to file a shit-ton of requests if they want all these forks removed.
LordOcidax
Member
Nintendo lawyer likes to work… But is already down.Nintendo's lawyers have a hell of a lot of work in front of them. They have to file an individual DMCA takedown request for all 4.2k forks, which may have forks of their own, according to github policy.
Example:
dmca/2024/03/2024-03-01-kpler.md at master · github/dmca
Repository with text of DMCA takedown notices as received. GitHub does not endorse or adopt any assertion contained in the following notices. Users identified in the notices are presumed innocent u...
Guide to Submitting a DMCA Takedown Notice - GitHub Docs
Get started, troubleshoot, and make the most of GitHub. Documentation for new users, developers, administrators, and all of GitHub's products.DMCA Takedown Policy - GitHub Docs
Get started, troubleshoot, and make the most of GitHub. Documentation for new users, developers, administrators, and all of GitHub's products.
Topher
Gold Member
yuzu's github is, but all those forks are not.
CS Lurker
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CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I've only tested on Deck, but Ryujinx didn't have sound when I tested the demo. Yuzu basically ran it perfectly.
ChoosableOne
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AngelMuffin
Member
He was profiting off them, right?
ReyBrujo
Member
Not sure it would be what they want, though. Getting 20k extra will only make Nintendo aim at them. Ryujinx is closer to how emulation should be developed, as a hobby project. Not that Nintendo will let them be, pretty sure they will eventually be aimed but as long as they keep it slow it seems safe. However maybe Ryujinx' guys might take the project down themselves knowing they would not be able to afford legal costs and settlement.
TrebleShot
Member
Ryujinx next