No I meant actual wrpgs
But that list had all time classics on it too like Diablo 2 and BG2, and they were like 6 or 7.
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No I meant actual wrpgs
But that list had all time classics on it too like Diablo 2 and BG2, and they were like 6 or 7.
EmCeeGramr
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I thought that terrible framerate in cutscenes, janky inconsistent graphics, and impressions from the Japanese demo saying the controls being busted and awkward without the CPP were all part of why people were down on the game, but if you say that it's all been about "missing grass" for this monolithic individual known as "GAF" then sure why not.
Playing it now, was a gamefly rental. 5 on Edge's scale seems adequate if not charitable.
I did give up and quit eventually, moved onto Amalur.
XIII-2 didn't start out as bad as I eventually ended up feeling. Game showed some real promise, that kept me engaged in the early goings. Unfortunately it failed to execute on its strengths properly and each hour waned and waned until I lost interest entirely.
Sadly I did the same going for achievements. I did appreciate the combat system at least in the endgame going for monster hunt trophies. Beyond that, it was a pretty depressing experience for a once beloved franchise of mine.
Impossibly for a game to be good with dodgy framerate and 'janky' graphics right?
Colonel Mustard
Banned
GAF faux-rage over review scores never ceases to make me chuckle.
Pretty interesting review scores for Neverdead and MGS.
Pretty interesting review scores for Neverdead and MGS.
I like Edge reviews. I will never understand the dislike towards a publication just because they don't agree with everyone else. I loved the hell out of Darkness 2, but I would score it, using the full scale, exactly what Edge gave it. Same with KOA, its better than average, which is what a 6 should be.
Very interested in reading the MGS review.
Very interested in reading the MGS review.
Closest I could find of a summary of their wrpg scores is from Nirolak last year
So yeah, not their favorite genre. They also gave ME2 a 10 to further prove my point
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28465561&postcount=51
Nirolak said:
So yeah, not their favorite genre. They also gave ME2 a 10 to further prove my point
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28465561&postcount=51
pharmboy044
Member
So yeah, not their favorite genre. They also gave ME2 a 10 to further prove my point
You've misunderstood; it IS their favourite genre, hence the higher standards.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Do not believe that Neverdead score.
In my experience with the game, that is way too high.
In my experience with the game, that is way too high.
Cerebral Assassin
Member
Thats a terrible analogy, its more like saying "QB X is better than pitcher Y because he has a higher salary", its a pointless metric(unless the games you are comparing are very similar), also it may not be a "shocker" but it is pretty stupid.
EmCeeGramr
Member
No, of course not (nice job ignoring the part directly impacting gameplay though), but technical problems and compromises are a bigger part of judging a port or rerelease than with a brand new game.
People looking to buy a port or rerelease generally never played the original game or are fans of the original. If the new version is in some way compromised or inferior to the original, then that should be a major consideration.
If MGS3D plays way better than we've been shown, great, but all the stuff that's come out looks like Konami really phoned it in.
Gianni Merryman
Member
Or maybe the final build is much better than expected?
As far as I'm concerned I'll wait for more reviews for confirmation(well, actually I haven't either read Edge's review in details yet).
No? When did GAF start doing this? Im seeing it more and more often. Someone says a game looks terrible, and their opinion is called into question because they havent played it. Someone buys a game, it turns out to be bad, so they say as much after having beaten it, and this thinly veiled "but noone would play a bad game to completion" people start popping up.
So ridiculous. I have played completely through countless bad games in my time. I feel compelled to even, when I have spent good money on the game at its release price.
Just saying...
Edit: This post sort of came out like an attack on you Dennis, and it wasnt meant that way. Its just that I have seen posts just like that a few times over the past few weeks.
Some people say 60fps or bust, others say they can't see blatant screen tearing.
TheNatural
My Member!
It's also pretty absurd that there should be some high standard discussion over comparing scores in a SCORE thread. You saying it should be about the reviews and games is ridiculous, when a) there ARE no reviews here, you have to go buy the magazine and b) most of the games aren't even OUT yet.
So great, you basically want a discussion thread on whether Final Fantasy or Neverdead plays as the scores indicate. Why not just start a thread for just that then, because that's basically all that's left. You realize the OP is JUST scores right?
Colonel Mustard
Banned
We've also never played an updated build. Many people who've played the demo said it's the e3 build.
We don't know what (if anything) has changed.
EmCeeGramr
Member
I... what? What does that have to do with anything?
Are you trying to say that technical problems don't matter because some people can't notice them?
Is it really their favorite? I don't know, I'm just judging from the scores and the scores say it isn't. ME2 and Skyrim getting a 10 and 9 while most of the classics of the genre get 5-7s say it's not your favorite genre.
IndieJones
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Closest I could find of a summary of their wrpg scores is from Nirolak last year
So yeah, not their favorite genre. They also gave ME2 a 10 to further prove my point
All I can say about that list is that many of those games required extensive patching to become WRPG standard-bearers they are today. A few of them were simply broken right out of the box. EDGE can't really give a numerical score to a game's potential; that's what the review text is for. Once again, all these numbers might as well be meaningless without the words to go along with them.
Phat Michael
Banned
Closest I could find of a summary of their wrpg scores is from Nirolak last year
So yeah, not their favorite genre. They also gave ME2 a 10 to further prove my point
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28465561&postcount=51
No they didnt. ME2 got a 9.
This. I have a venerable appreciation for the genre as well as my money spent. Yes, that often means sacrificing precious time over enjoyment, but I am never one to give up. I have dumped an absurd amount of time into horrible books, movies, and games, but I tend to finish them, often out of spiteful curiosity.
I will likely revisit my save of FFXIII-2 to wrap up the achievements, but I really need a break from it for the time being.
No, I'm saying one persons gamebreaking technical issue is anothers unnoticeable irrelevance. Edge are harsh reviewers, they're not going to let actual technical issues pass.
It doesn't really say whether it's your favourite genre or not, whereas a former Edge reviewer from that 'classic' era posting here that it was is a much better clue.
Whoops I thought I saw 10. That still doesn't make it much better though when all those other ones got much lower scores :\
sixteen-bit
Member
What did they give Dark Souls, just curious.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
That NeverDead score is blowing my goddamn mind.
It'd have to be a +7 from what I've heard about the game.
It'd have to be a +7 from what I've heard about the game.
sixteen-bit
Member
It was developed in the UK. Instant +3 at least.
GhostWriter24
Member
9/10
It's only a disappointment if you were expecting something from it.
Cerebral Assassin
Member
Fair enough, keep making inane comparisons(that aren't even accurate, EDGE haven't even reviewed all the Vita launch titles).
But, Is it better than the first one?
Criminal Upper
Banned
But it was directed by a Japanese guy!
Hot Coldman
Banned
*reads UK bias shitposts*
*grinds teeth*
*grinds teeth*
For me so far it's worse in most every way, except that it's a bit more open in areas. I got it as a gift from my fiancee so I'm not crying over spilled milk, but it feels like it wasn't worth it even free D:
TheNatural
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I don't have a dog in the fight, or care one way or another. It's just funny to me how sentiment about something can be completely different when a game actually comes out and is reviewed compared to before it came out. So yeah, it's not only shocking and entertaining when MGS 3DS gets an 8 somewhere, but does well compared to competitor games. People were comparing the game to how the original looked on PSONE. Apparently they fixed it, or someone just likes the game itself to ignore any graphical flaws. It's no different than reacting to a sales thread or whatever else.
Yeah, Rebellion is UK based. Not that I believe in the UK bias thing.
AppleSmack
Banned
I'm happy to see great scores for Old Republic and MGS 3D. Strongly considering them.
phosphor112
Banned
These scores.... wut?
Only the same thing I expect from any game I purchase. That it be decent. Instead everything except the combat was beyond annoying.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28467354&postcount=152
edit: it's also worth noting that they have admitted to being less harsh in recent years. I don't know why, but it's not worth comparing newer scores to older for this reason. A shame really, the old way felt better to me, I don't really need my purchases to be 9/10.
edit: it's also worth noting that they have admitted to being less harsh in recent years. I don't know why, but it's not worth comparing newer scores to older for this reason. A shame really, the old way felt better to me, I don't really need my purchases to be 9/10.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Well, I might give MGS a chance. *waiting for demo*