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Just watched Samaritan for the first time, and this is seriously what everyone is wetting themselves over? Am I missing something? Because if you told me that was a current gen game I wouldn't bat an eye.
As much as you want that to be the case (I've seen your past posts and many are pro-PC while ripping on consoles), I doubt it.
Just watched Samaritan for the first time, and this is seriously what everyone is wetting themselves over? Am I missing something? Because if you told me that was a current gen game I wouldn't bat an eye.
No you wouldn't because you wouldn't want them to be a better platform than PC due to 'fanboy' (I hate that term) tendencies. I've read your past posts, just saying.If I was pro PC, wouldn't I want consoles to be powerful so that PC hardware would no longer be constrained? What kind of bullshit are you spouting?
Sony would go bankrupt if they tried to fit a 7970 into a console in 2012-early 2013 with a 450 W PSU and some massive cube like shape to push air through it fast. It would sell at a huge loss and they're already broke.
Just watched Samaritan for the first time, and this is seriously what everyone is wetting themselves over? Am I missing something? Because if you told me that was a current gen game I wouldn't bat an eye.
No you wouldn't because you wouldn't want them to be a better platform than PC due to 'fanboy' (I hate that term) tendencies. I've read your past posts, just saying.
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Bro Sony is losing money, but they're far from broke. Learn about what you think before you say it.
Just watched Samaritan for the first time, and this is seriously what everyone is wetting themselves over? Am I missing something? Because if you told me that was a current gen game I wouldn't bat an eye.
Maybe the CG intro to a current gen game?Just watched Samaritan for the first time, and this is seriously what everyone is wetting themselves over? Am I missing something? Because if you told me that was a current gen game I wouldn't bat an eye.
As a basis for comparison, the TFLOP performance of ~modern PC GPUs includes;
GTX 570 = 1.4 TFLOPS
GTX 580 = 1.5 TFLOPS
GTX 590 = 2.4 TFLOPS (dual GPU core)
HD 6930 = 1.9 TFLOPS
HD 6970 = 2.7 TFLOPS
HD 6990 = 5.0 TFLOPS (dual GPU core)
All of these are available now.
Just watched Samaritan for the first time, and this is seriously what everyone is wetting themselves over? Am I missing something? Because if you told me that was a current gen game I wouldn't bat an eye.
As a basis for comparison, the TFLOP performance of ~modern PC GPUs includes;
GTX 570 = 1.4 TFLOPS
GTX 580 = 1.5 TFLOPS
GTX 590 = 2.4 TFLOPS (dual GPU core)
HD 6930 = 1.9 TFLOPS
HD 6970 = 2.7 TFLOPS
HD 6990 = 5.0 TFLOPS (dual GPU core)
All of these are available now.
the 6990 could do 2 samaritans, damn. i wonder where the 7xxx's stand
Why are the Nvidia cards outputting so fewer flops when they run games faster?
4.4 times the X-box 360 hmmm...
I wonder if the Wii U will be that more powerful.
Why are the Nvidia cards outputting so fewer flops when they run games faster?
Drivers. One of the main reasons the pc is such a terrible platform.
I can see why you totally lead your debate team.Drivers. One of the main reasons the pc is such a terrible platform.
Drivers. One of the main reasons the pc is such a terrible platform.
Drivers. One of the main reasons the pc is such a terrible platform.
Why are the Nvidia cards outputting so fewer flops when they run games faster?
Just watched Samaritan for the first time, and this is seriously what everyone is wetting themselves over? Am I missing something? Because if you told me that was a current gen game I wouldn't bat an eye.
AMD has higher theoretical performance but lower average utilization.
Drivers. One of the main reasons the pc is such a terrible platform.
That may be the case, but it's probably a complicated reason, like a hardware design having a choke point somewhere that reduces actual performance. I doubt it's management being so careless to not be able to fill a few positions to make all competition obsolete.
Drivers. One of the main reasons the pc is such a terrible platform.
As a basis for comparison, the TFLOP performance of ~modern PC GPUs includes;
GTX 570 = 1.4 TFLOPS
GTX 580 = 1.5 TFLOPS
GTX 590 = 2.4 TFLOPS (dual GPU core)
HD 6930 = 1.9 TFLOPS
HD 6970 = 2.7 TFLOPS
HD 6990 = 5.0 TFLOPS (dual GPU core)
All of these are available now.
TOAO already pointed out the architectural differences, but this does beg the question. Is the calculation "nVidia TFLOPs" or "AMD TFLOPs"?
At the people saying that the samaritan demo doesn't look like a big improvement... get your eyes checked. Seriously. If that isn't impressive then what do you guys expect of next gen games?
Drivers. One of the main reasons the pc is such a terrible platform.
At the people saying that the samaritan demo doesn't look like a big improvement... get your eyes checked. Seriously. If that isn't impressive then what do you guys expect of next gen games?
AMD TLOPS, since the number he's using for the Xbox 360 is essentially AMD's stated performance for Xenos (240 GFLOPS).
TOAO already pointed out the architectural differences, but this does beg the question. Is the calculation "nVidia TFLOPs" or "AMD TFLOPs"?
Oh wow.
That's like calling penicillin a terrible antibiotic.
Drivers. One of the main reasons the pc is such a terrible platform.
Can you elaborate? I never knew they calculated them differently.
I expect them to actually be good.
Idk what this is even supposed to mean, but as a software engineer-in-training a windows pc is one of the absolutey worse platforms to attempt to get anywhere near peak performance from. And my professors, who have more knowledge than any of you combined, seem to agree.
But go on, keep on buying your 300$+ gpus and keep on believing you're doing anything more than wasting your money for more AF and AA.
How reliable is the "Wii U GPU > 1 TFLOP" statement supposed to be? I tried searching the internet, but the only place I found it mention was here. LOL
Sorry. I put them in quotes for a reason and didn't mean to cause confusion. What I mean by that is 2.5 TFLOPs with nVidia hardware is not the same as 2.5TFLOPs with AMD. Are we talking about the demo needing pretty much two 580s or is one 6970 more than enough?
Idk what this is even supposed to mean, but as a software engineer-in-training a windows pc is one of the absolutey worse platforms to attempt to get anywhere near peak performance from. And my professors, who have more knowledge than any of you combined, seem to agree.
But go on, keep on buying your 300$+ gpus and keep on believing you're doing anything more than wasting your money for more AF and AA.
Im not gonna dispute you on these numbers, because frankly idk where they come from and am too lazy too look up. But I know for a fact that no game on pc today ever comes close to the max specifications of a modern gpu, except maybe heat and watts generated.except not at all. These are only theoretical flops not actually programmable flops.
Shaders x Clock X 2 flops
For AMD 7970:
2048 shaders x .925 GHz x 2 = 3,788 Gflops
For Nvidia GTX580:
512 shaders x 1.544 GHz x 2 = 1,581 Gflops
The over GPU architecture and memory bandwidth will dictate how efficiently you can utilize those flops.
I'd like to know how Epic is counting the flop numbers for Samaritan: Theoretical or did they actual profile the codnd estimate the number of operations that were executed.
Sorry. I put them in quotes for a reason and didn't mean to cause confusion. What I mean by that is 2.5 TFLOPs with nVidia hardware is not the same as 2.5TFLOPs with AMD. Are we talking about the demo needing pretty much two 580s or is one 6970 more than enough?