These are definetely huge numbers.
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Media Create Sales: Week 5, 2012 (Jan 30 - Feb 05)
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These are definetely huge numbers.
electroplankton
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2012 TBA.
Cool Escalator
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Wow the Wii is completely and utterly dead!
BishopLamont
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SHOCKING NEWS
electroplankton
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Not that PS3 is so amazing.
twentytwo22
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This is actually pretty good, especially considering the fact that everyone doesn't rate their purchases. I wonder if we will ever even get ballpark numbers.
That's unfortunate, but a 10k debut as maximum is expected, at this point.
Cosmonaut X
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He's from the future, so he's talking about things already happened, since Tekken comes out next week!
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Or he's just talking about sensations from retailers combined with the fact that in Amazon top 100 Good People Die appears, but not Tekken.
electroplankton
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In so far as Sony doesn't release some figures, I would say those numbers are pretty negligible.
But it sells games. Isn't it important?
Wii sells games as well.
Just a guess after some expectations I've seen for this game.
electroplankton
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That was expected, imo.
It's released during a week whit two more anticipated 3DS games, plus it's Tekken on a Nintendo platform, and PSP entries were not so big sellers (6 opened at 30k).
If Tekken 6 opened with 30k in its first week on PSP, then I'm definitely not sure about Tekken 3D performing more than 10k. Even though it's the most accessible Tekken yet, it's still on a Nintendo platform while 3DS doesn't have as big an audience as PSP yet. Besides, Tekken doesnt gain that many new players through Arcades anymore, which is cause for concern.
But it sells games. Isn't it important?
The Wii sells game better than the PS3 in general though
test_account
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If Dead or Alive Dimensions can open with 30k, then i see no reason why Tekken Prime cant do equal or better.
Just wondering, why does it matter which platform it is on? Is it that people who are interested in 3DS are specific people? If so, what is this based on?
If we talk about the total software sales, during the last year, the PS3 sold about twice as much software as the Wii did.The Wii sells game better than the PS3 in general though
durrrrrrrrrr
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i expect Tekken to crash and burn, i'm not entirely sure what Namco's approach is. from my understanding only one character is their TTT2 incarnation, the rest being T6. if the characters that are in TTT2 had their balance changes added core Tekken players would be more inclined to pick up the game. right now it looks like 3D Prime is T6 PSP with online added, meh.
12.1 million isn't twice of 8.8 million
test_account
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Yeah, it was 30,597 with Famitsu number in the first week, but i checked Media Create numbers now and it is 23,078. Some difference, but the opening was more than 10k at least =)
I understand. It is just that i have seen other people as well mention "it is on (insert platform here), so it will do bad/good", so i'm just wondering what this is based on.
I guess that Garaph isnt updated then, or that those are the known Famitsu numbers, since there the difference is almost twice as much for the PS3. The Wii is at 4,594,456 and the PS3 is at 9,610,033. Are those 12.1 million and 8.8 million yearly numbers given by MC?
EDIT: Doh, i only checked games that were released in 2011. It is of course possible that older games still kept on selling as well
It's not about being updated or not. Garaph adds software sales from weekly top 30, Famitsu has given full software sales for last year.
test_account
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Ok, thanks
I also noticed now that i only checked games that were released in 2011, but of course older games could sell as well.The PS3 also probably had far more games released last year than the Wii. Wii games sell for the most part when they are released. But that's the rub. When they are released.
electroplankton
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Well, there exist series that sell well on specific platforms regardless of the installed base, other esponents of the same genre or the importance of those entries. Tales of is one of those series.
test_account
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Indeed. Garaph has 30 Wii games listed for 2011, while the number of PS3 games is at 106.
Yeah, true about Tales games, but has it been somehow proven that the platform itself is the main reason for the difference in sales? Or is it more about the games themself?
electroplankton
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Exactly.
2012 has been a pretty bad year for Wii hardware-wise, but considering its decline, it sold a good amound of games. Three games clearly underperformed (Wii Play: Motion, Skyward Sword and Fortune Street) but there were many unexpected successes like Goldeneye, Epic Mickey, Family Fishing and Go Vacation and other games that performed pretty well (Kirby, Just Dance, Dragon Quest Collection, Inazuma Eleven Strikers + its expansion, Rhythm Heaven Fever, PokéPark 2, Taiko no Tatsujin).
Clearly it has not been proven, but it is likely that series that have always been a big presence on certain consoles have built a fanbase on such consoles which probably has continued on the same vein (PS2->PS3 or PSP) since it was sure new episodes would have been out there.
JoshuaJSlone
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Here's its first half year, capped at 50K to make seeing the lower numbers easier. It was only below 20K a couple times other than immediately before the price cut, but spent a lot in the 20-40 range.
Though of course a known flat statement of "X games sold during Y period." is better, the best way to do something like this using Garaph tools would be to chart a super group of an entire system's sales, and look at the change in total from time A to time B. As things stand right now it looks like about 9.6m PS3 and 7.3m Wii sales are accounted for in the 2011 tracking period, and that will bump up closer to the full total whenever the Top 1000 is added in.EDIT: Doh, i only checked games that were released in 2011. It is of course possible that older games still kept on selling as well
michaelius
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But how much of that 8,8 milions are nintendo published titles ?
Nintendo evergreens don't leave that much space to 3rd party titles.
electroplankton
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Was this the topic we were talking about?
Wii sold games in 2011 despite its decline, period.
walking fiend
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every sign points to Tekken bombig quite hard worldwide, which I didn't expect
Stumpokapow
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Cool choice of avatar.
Castor Krieg
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When was the last game out? I think in the world after SFIV, MvC and Blazblue, Tekken simply lost relevance. Everyone would already be invested in other fighting games.
Tekken is still the most popular fighting game in Japan and other Asian countries.
The problem with Tekken is Tekken itself, it is harder than ever for new players to get into it.
2 years ago and it's probably the best selling fighting game worldwide after SSBB this gen.
michaelius
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Nope but it explains nicely why 3rd parties abandoned Wii.
test_account
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It is possible, but does that mean that people buy systems before games have been announced for them? Like with Tales, did a lot of Tales fans buy a PS3/PSP before any Tales games were announced for PS3/PSP? Or if a Tales game comes out for another platform, will they completely ignore it? I'm just wondering how much the platform itself (thinking then only about the name of the platform) matters.
My estimate for rating is that around 5% - 10% people normally rate.
Just got this number on the surveys i have sent for my studies.. :">
So if that %age holds it should be around 10k to 20k for RO.. which looks pretty high to me..
so i believe many more have rated the game.
electroplankton
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Still, we were talking about a completely different thing.
Perhaps Tales fans are not only fans of Tales but of other series still well represented on Sony platforms.
test_account
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For comparison sake, these are the best selling PSN games of 2011:
1) Tetris (387 ratings)
2) Resident Evil 4 HD (3,767 Ratings)
3) Infamous: Festival of Blood (3,144 ratings)
4) Back to the Future: The Game (2,996 ratings)
5) Dungeon Hunter: Alliance (1,449 ratings)
6) Castle Crashers (2,096 ratings)
7) Limbo (2,351 ratings)
8) Battlefield 1943 (7,028 ratings)
9) Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection (554 ratings)
10) Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers (5,536 ratings)
There arent any patterns here, so it is hard to say much the total sales are, but at least 700+ and 1000+ ratings are quite high compared to other games' ratings.
EDIT:
Three more comparisons to full PS3 games that were available at day 1 (or at least very close after retail launch) on PS Store:
- Battlefield 3 (1,601 ratings)
- FIFA 12 (603 ratings)
- Mass Effect 2 (673 ratings)
It could be. Very hard to prove it either way, but i find it interesting regardless
My estimate for rating is that around 5% - 10% people normally rate.
Just got this number on the surveys i have sent for my studies.. :">
So if that %age holds it should be around 10k to 20k for RO.. which looks pretty high to me..
so i believe many more have rated the game.
10K minimum for RO is a number that is out of reality for Japan.
Sammy Samusu
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They were never there to begin with (except for a few games, of course).
And Nintendo DS has just as many evergreen titles. That's not an excuse.
Looking forward to Dragon Quest X, that game is way long overdue...
electroplankton
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But.. But Persona 3 Portable sold 10k at launch online!!!11!!
Go_Ly_Dow
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Would like to see Binary Domain succeed since I'm a big fan of the Yakuza Studio. It's a tough one to predict since it's clearly not made just for the Japanese market, however the studio name might be enough to sway hardcore fans of Yakuza.
I'm going to be optimistic:
-120-150K PS3
-20-30K 360
I'm going to be optimistic:
-120-150K PS3
-20-30K 360
It could be. Very hard to prove it either way, but i find it interesting regardless
The biggest factor is probably the PS3 being a blu-ray player. Tales is one of those series which are very popular among anime fans as well in Japan. It has the same design aesthetics and narrative style. Any anime fan who actually buys anime generally buys blu-rays because it's a better deal than buying DVDs. Hence it is very likely they have a PS3 as their main AV player, and might not even own other systems. They might not be waiting for a Tales game on the PS3, but they own one, and they buy games on that, and so when Tales games eventually come out on the PS3, there is a much larger core audience for that sort of thing than on other platforms.
test_account
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Ah yes, that is a good way to do it, thanks
I'll try to keep that in mind if i'm going to check the yearly sold numbers another time.I see. That sounds like a plausible reason why the PS3 Tales games sold quite well (besides that the games being good (i think?) of course).
That's a good observation.The Wii sells game better than the PS3 in general though
2011 software sales are from pixel counting.
Thinking more about it, I think Tekken 3D could sell as much as SW3ZS. I honestly don't know why I choose the latter for the predictions.
I think beta invites are imminent, or have started recently.
Edit: Well, some invites were a couple of weeks ago: http://andriasang.com/comztd/dqx_beta_test_emails/
Edit: Well, some invites were a couple of weeks ago: http://andriasang.com/comztd/dqx_beta_test_emails/