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Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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z0m3le

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The problem with this "new ending" stuff is that it's basically asking for an expansion pack on the scale of like, Dragon Age Awakenings or something. You'd need to make new assets, bring back the entire cast of voice actors, and all the other production stuff that has to take place for that to happen. Looking at all the previous ME DLC, they've never done anything on that scale with the franchise - it's all stand alone adventures with Jennifer Hale/Mark Meer and some anonymous voice actors that no one cares about in a relatively small and tightly designed level.

Of course, assuming they actually go all out and make a new ending, how much do they charge for it? 15? 20? Because they're sure as hell not going to give it away for free.

I'm as frustrated as the next guy about how they fucked this all up... but I just think constantly speculation is just working yourself up to further disappointment.


I don't think you really need closure beyond Shepard seeing Earth saved and then dying. I mean, it's basically the end of
Saving Private Ryan without all the old man crap at the end or The Thin Red Line
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Yeah, maybe the squad member stuff would be a nice extra, but not something I'd really want to need to see.

An hour of game play? and a 10 minute ending? you really think that would require a huge budget and a ton of actors? Shepard would be alone, so you only need Jennifer Hale and Mark Meer, the other voices would be some random reaper talking to Shepard on the Citadel, could even be the two actors together like they did with the star child.

As for the 10minute ending, you wouldn't need a lot of voice acting... heck there is none in the current ending, so something similar to that in terms of production value is fine.

Just show Shepard and Romantic interest where ever they end up, or everyone attending Shepard's funeral or Anderson's, or who ever ends up dead.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Oh missed that saving earth would be included. Yeah sure, I would like that. It would still lead to tons of speculation though.

Also to me it's not that the ending is bad itself, what is not there is bad. At least that's how I feel after thinking more of it.
I don't know what else they could put it without it being exposition though. I mean, before operation Hammer, you spend 10 minutes basically saying good bye to every one you've met in the ME games except Dr. Chakwas and the engineers (and the two girls guarding the war room, I guess. I really wish I got some closure with them!). They build toward the last part being final.

Of course, no one wonders why your crew would abandon you in the first place. "Hey Shepard, you're on this one last run to try to save the galaxy. But you're only allowed to take two crew members with you because our game engine can't handle it. Good luck!".

An hour of game play? and a 10 minute ending? you really think that would require a huge budget and a ton of actors? Shepard would be alone, so you only need Jennifer Hale and Mark Meer, the other voices would be some random reaper talking to Shepard on the Citadel, could even be the two actors together like they did with the star child.

As for the 10minute ending, you wouldn't need a lot of voice acting... heck there is none in the current ending, so something similar to that in terms of production value is fine.

Just show Shepard and Romantic interest where ever they end up, or everyone attending Shepard's funeral or Anderson's, or who ever ends up dead.
If it's just another ME2-esque expansion mission, I'm not sure what I'd get out of that beyond them retconning the old ending. You already finish the game alone after all.

I was just assuming people would want something big, with epilogues from each cast member and so forth.
 
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I gotta admit, the last thread title got me laughing whenever I read it.
 

Cyborg771

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More than the fact that the ending is "bad" (as in sad, doesn't have enough of an epilogue, doesn't factor in player choice) I'm more upset that it just doesn't make any SENSE. The crucible's logic is flawed to the core (I created synthetics to destroy organics so they don't create synthetics that destroy organics, u mad?), the weird mischaracterization of Anderson as renegade and TIM as paragon, the fact that all 3 of your choices are philosophically opposed to the ideas the games have been pushing (I reunited the geth and quarians, I brokered a romance between a human and an AI, don't tell me that "peace between organics and synthetics is impossible"), and then the bizarre choice to have Shepard survive (only if you have enough EMS and pick the destroy ending, so the other two are by definition not-canon), all just make my head spin.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
That's probably the biggest problem. If you unite the Geth and the Quarians, you should at least get the option to tell Star Child to go pound sand and fuck himself. It literally makes that event pointless, because the game just assumes you failed to resolve that war.

Either that, or your Shepard gets temporary memory loss because of his "injuries" and totally forgets.
 

Jackpot

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So what if that shot of Shepard taking a breath after the credits is him buried under rubble on Earth and not the Citadel? It doesn't look like debris from the part of the Citadel you were just standing on.
 

z0m3le

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I don't know what else they could put it without it being exposition though. I mean, before operation Hammer, you spend 10 minutes basically saying good bye to every one you've met in the ME games except Dr. Chakwas and the engineers (and the two girls guarding the war room, I guess. I really wish I got some closure with them!). They build toward the last part being final.

Of course, no one wonders why your crew would abandon you in the first place. "Hey Shepard, you're on this one last run to try to save the galaxy. But you're only allowed to take two crew members with you because our game engine can't handle it. Good luck!".


If it's just another ME2-esque expansion mission, I'm not sure what I'd get out of that beyond them retconning the old ending. You already finish the game alone after all.

I was just assuming people would want something big, with epilogues from each cast member and so forth.

Them all retreating afterwards makes no sense either, it's a do or die situation, so someone should pick up the flag, besides they say over the radio that everyone is dead, completely ignoring Shepard and Anderson stumbling their way forward... Nope, time for everyone to retreat, even though there is literally no escape if you run here.

As for your first point, Shepard wakes up at the end, why have all of your crew mates stranded on a jungle planet light years from Shepard and Shepard alive... I was happier with the ending with him dead and the Normandy full of cowards retreating to die at a later time; because without the crucible that is all they can expect to happen to them.
 

Cyborg771

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So what if that shot of Shepard taking a breath after the credits is him buried under rubble on Earth and not the Citadel? It doesn't look like debris from the part of the Citadel you were just standing on.

Well that's just fuel on the Indoctrination Theory fire. Either there was a cement lining underneath all the metal on the citadel and that breath is meaningless because you're about to crash into earth (which would probably kill the remaining humans now that I think about it) or you're on earth which means you fell from orbit and crash landed (after surviving an explosion on the citadel...). That certainly didn't work in your favour in 2.
 

Arjen

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I saw something like this and i liked it.

Mass Effect 3 Ending |OT2| Can't it wait? i'm in the middle of some speculations
 
Didnt hate the ending however it would of been much better if.

Shepard got inside the citadel via the "beam" once inside the room with Anderson he was met by Harbinger and TIM

Middle Choice
After a battle with harbinger he takes control of TIM, Once TIM/Harbinger is Defeated TIM has control over Harbinger Shepard shoots TIM in the head killing both him and Harbinger, The Crucible transmits a kill virus to all the Reapers and the galaxy continues eventually destroying its self thousands of years later via war

Renegade
After a battle with harbinger he takes control of TIM, Once TIM/Harbinger is Defeated TIM has control over Harbinger, Shepard helps TIM take control of Harbinger and use the Citadel/Crucible to broadcast his control to all reapers using them to solidify Humanity's position as the dominant spices of "The Last Cycle" (renegade) humanity using the reapers rule the Universe almost tyrannically for the foreseeable future

|Paragon (canon)
After a battle with harbinger he takes control of TIM, Once TIM/Harbinger is Defeated TIM has control over Harbinger Shepard help TIM to control Harbinger and then broadcast a shutdown command across the galaxy using the Crucible/Citadel/Mass Relays.
TIM using all the knowledge he gained from controlling Harbinger helps humanity AND every other species prosper, less intelligent races such as the Yagh into galactic communication.

Every ending then starts hoping to Major civilizations and characters from the universe showing how they continued after the war.

After the credits we see some alien race Far beyond our galaxy. The setting is a giant space construction yard the alien race report successful development of a Large scale Mass relay that will allow them to reach out Galaxy. Then some general reports "project:reaper was a failure, project:abyss is go".

Mass Effect universe stays viable, new threat is introduced but not expanded upon and we could still have after game DLC with shepard
 
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Cyborg771

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Man, I remember when the first negative reviews of the ending were coming in, I said to my friend "My worst case scenario for the ending is that they put me in a room with two buttons, a red one and a blue one, and tell me to go for it." I only just remembered this conversation, but I was right...
 
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Deleted member 81567

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They're not even going to release a DLC anymore. I have no hope.


Man, I remember when the first negative reviews of the ending were coming in, I said to my friend "My worst case scenario for the ending is that they put me in a room with two buttons, a red one and a blue one, and tell me to go for it." I only just remembered this conversation, but I was right...
You kinda exaggerated, there was 3 buttons not 2.
 

Rebel Leader

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alotta ppl will eat crow when they announce indoc theory DLC.

MARK MA WORDS!

The ending that you got was real, there was no indoc.

They posted on their facebook page about "considering changing the ending". Shepard wasn't indoc'd and that proves it. =3
 

Replicant

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They're not even going to release a DLC anymore. I have no hope.



You kinda exaggerated, there was 3 buttons not 2.
Do you really want DLC on Aria taking Omega back a few hours before Shepard stormed Cerberus base? Regardless of the result, we still end up with the shitty ending. It's like double the insult since to begin with, I don't give a hoot if Aria gets Omega back or not.
 

You mean the red destroy option ? The one that destroys all synthetics ? The one that reaches out into the entire galaxy and wipes out all synthetic beings ? Yet Commander Shepard who is partially synthetic manages to survive despite the fact she is sitting legs akimbo at the centre of the explosion but only if she recruits the Volus bombing fleet and Elcor War drama and concert troop to the fight.

It really does make me wonder why people are questioning those that have a problem with the ending of Mass Effect 3.
 
I like going into the OT(lol) thread and seeing people agonize over some of the decisions in the game and I just laugh knowing that it won't matter
 

Arjen

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Do you really want DLC on Aria taking Omega back a few hours before Shepard stormed Cerberus base? Regardless of the result, we still end up with the shitty ending. It's like double the insult since to begin with, I don't give a hoot if Aria gets Omega back or not.

Now my rage has calmed down, yes, i would still play it day 1. I love the gameplay and the stories in the ME universe, even with this shitty ending.
 

danwarb

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Do you really want DLC on Aria taking Omega back a few hours before Shepard stormed Cerberus base? Regardless of the result, we still end up with the shitty ending. It's like double the insult since to begin with, I don't give a hoot if Aria gets Omega back or not.
Don't give up because of an inevitable shitty ending. A life lesson from ME3.
 

z0m3le

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You mean the red destroy option ? The one that destroys all synthetics ? The one that reaches out into the entire galaxy and wipes out all synthetic beings ? Yet Commander Shepard who is partially synthetic manages to survive despite the fact she is sitting legs akimbo at the centre of the explosion but only if she recruits the Volus bombing fleet and Elcor War drama and concert troop to the fight.

It really does make me wonder why people are questioning those that have a problem with the ending of Mass Effect 3.

Not to mention EDI on planet jungle.
 

Rezbit

Member
Didnt hate the ending however it would of been much better if.

Shepard got inside the citadel via the "beam" once inside the room with Anderson he was met by Harbinger and TIM

Middle Choice
After a battle with harbinger he takes control of TIM, Once TIM/Harbinger is Defeated TIM has control over Harbinger Shepard shoots TIM in the head killing both him and Harbinger, The Crucible transmits a kill virus to all the Reapers and the galaxy continues eventually destroying its self thousands of years later via war

Renegade
After a battle with harbinger he takes control of TIM, Once TIM/Harbinger is Defeated TIM has control over Harbinger, Shepard helps TIM take control of Harbinger and use the Citadel/Crucible to broadcast his control to all reapers using them to solidify Humanity's position as the dominant spices of "The Last Cycle" (renegade) humanity using the reapers rule the Universe almost tyrannically for the foreseeable future

|Paragon (canon)
After a battle with harbinger he takes control of TIM, Once TIM/Harbinger is Defeated TIM has control over Harbinger Shepard help TIM to control Harbinger and then broadcast a shutdown command across the galaxy using the Crucible/Citadel/Mass Relays.
TIM using all the knowledge he gained from controlling Harbinger helps humanity AND every other species prosper, less intelligent races such as the Yagh into galactic communication.

Every ending then starts hoping to Major civilizations and characters from the universe showing how they continued after the war.

After the credits we see some alien race Far beyond our galaxy. The setting is a giant space construction yard the alien race report successful development of a Large scale Mass relay that will allow them to reach out Galaxy. Then some general reports "project:reaper was a failure, project:abyss is go".

Mass Effect universe stays viable, new threat is introduced but not expanded upon and we could still have after game DLC with shepard

Compared to the ending we got, this would be:

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I like going into the OT(lol) thread and seeing people agonize over some of the decisions in the game and I just laugh knowing that it won't matter
I was going in there to try to warn them, especially about EMS but I think they just see it as trolling and ignore it, so I stopped.
 

K' Dash

Member
Can anyone explain me Why I didn't see Shep at the end, I had a 7000 EMS with 83% galactic readines, is it because I chose the green ending?
 

Derrick01

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Can anyone explain me Why I didn't see Shep at the end, I had a 7000 EMS with 83% galactic readines, is it because I chose the green ending?

Yeah he only shows up on the destroy ending.

And damn how'd you get that much EMS? Or are you confusing it with total military strength?
 
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