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At the box office: The Avengers vs The Dark Knight Rises
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Good Job Bob
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Christopher Nolan is completely capable of a bad film, and it's rather easy for the third installment of a trilogy to end up sour.
TheKaeptain
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Skiptastic
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Avengers will probably sell a lot fewer tickets but not be totally crushed in box office due to 3D surcharges.
VariantX04
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Angry Fork
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I hate this guys face so much. I wish I could explain what it is but I can't. He just looks permanently bro-douchey like his character in The Town is who he is in real life. He looks completely out of place in Avengers same with Scarlet and the bald guy.
The Elite
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Is that the douchiest photo you could find?
TheKaeptain
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InbeforeTheAvengersPromo
shira
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If you want to call your shot for everyone's ridicule:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=469622
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=469622
Certainly not at the box office.
AHA-Lambda
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What on earth have i just walked into?!
There is an ice age 4 coming out?
There's a Bourne 4 coming out!?! WTF!?
And people think the new spiderman is going to beat the avengers in the box office??
*michaeljordanlaughing.gif*
There is an ice age 4 coming out?
There's a Bourne 4 coming out!?! WTF!?
And people think the new spiderman is going to beat the avengers in the box office??
*michaeljordanlaughing.gif*
Discotheque
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Pretty much all that needs to be said. And the first post too.
People are really overselling TDKR; Avengers has no chance of grossing more, but TDKR won't be the "event movie" people are expecting it to be. TDK had Ledger, Joker, really appealing visuals and a top tier promotional campaign. TDKR has a middling promotional campaign, atrocious art design nobody likes and a villain barely anyone gives a shit about.
Hot Coldman
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I'll go with this. Avengers will make mad bank with merch on top, mind.
Good Job Bob
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Disney will make more money from The Avengers than WB will with TDKR.
The Elite
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What did Dark Knight do? I can't imagine Rises doing any more than it.
Billion worldwide..and I could see TDKR matching it if it benefits from word-of-mouth legs.
Discotheque
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Jeremy Renner looks like a blowfish. I think that's what is kind of annoying about him. He's a decent actor though but I'm already getting sick of him being shoehorned into franchises now. I hope Bourne flops.
outunderthestars
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OK, not a big comic book guy, but why does the Avengers have a guy with a bow and arrow? That doesn't really seem like the most bad ass weapon/skill in comparison to iron man and what not.
What happens when he runs out of arrows?
That said, the Avengers looked absurdly dumb to me.
What happens when he runs out of arrows?
That said, the Avengers looked absurdly dumb to me.
Hot Coldman
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Indeed. What are their budgets anyway? I know Avengers is $250bn~ but I have no idea what Nolan was working with.
1b.
Of course it will do more, why wouldn't it?
The Dark Knight was huge. This is gonna be bigger.
Same.
I doubt TDKR will even come close to TDK; it lacks TDK's iconic art direction and, as far as mass appeal goes, Goatse Bane isn't even close to Ledger's Joker.
The Elite
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Doesn't have the Joker. The character is iconic and is a huge draw on his own.
Doesn't have Heath Ledger's death drawing people to the box office. It was a big story at the time and the talk about his performance drew in a lot of people who may have not seen the film otherwise.
I think this film does around 800 mil. Still beating Avengers but not by much.
Firefly, Dr. Horrible, Doll House..etc.
Hot Coldman
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OK, then Disney easily win the big picture.
The Elite
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Firefly was good.
Dollhouse was fine.
Dr. Horrible, not my thing but it was made for Whedonites.
I think the Whedon hate has less to do with Whedon and more to do with his rabid fan base.
Yeah sure, if Inception had made 300 mil instead of 825 mil, maybe you would have a point.
outunderthestars
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I agree with that DKR won't have the impact of the last , but I think alot of people are also overestimating the mainstream audience appeal of the Avengers.
It will make what Inception made? No way it's that low. Overseas grosses have exploded, even in just the past 4 years since TDK.
Johnny Deep was always the main draw of PotC and he came back for PotC 4. The violent neo-noir aesthetic, the way in which it ingrained itself in pop culture, the Joker and Ledger were the main draws of TDK; TDKR looks like a sci-fi flick, doesn't have the kind of iconic imagery that sticks in pop culture and lacks both Joker and Ledger. It's a completely different situation.
I think your opinion is kind of not what the general public thinks, though.
Response to the trailers, the prologue, and especially Bane has been very positive so far. The only complaint, Bane's voice, has spawned interest more than anything else. There seems to be a lot of buzz and curiosity as to what the final performance is going to look like. Also pretty certain the "goatse" thing isn't widespread, haha.
Did you see all the press that prologue got? Even before anyone had seen it? For a fucking trailer, man. That's unheard of. It was pretty much universal raves as well. It's pretty safe to say TDKR's doing pretty well in the hype department. It's still riding off of TDK's success, as well.
Discotheque
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I'm not sure if it will topple TDK or not.
On one hand, Batman brand is stronger than ever now and this is being marketed as the final film in Nolan's trilogy.
On the other hand, Joker was iconic. A lot moreso than Bane is (and will be) And believe it or not but Heath Ledger's death did give it the added publicity and seats.
Either way it's DEFINITELY taking down Avengers.
On one hand, Batman brand is stronger than ever now and this is being marketed as the final film in Nolan's trilogy.
On the other hand, Joker was iconic. A lot moreso than Bane is (and will be) And believe it or not but Heath Ledger's death did give it the added publicity and seats.
Either way it's DEFINITELY taking down Avengers.
This thread is the equivalent of my dad is better than your dad.
If you're an executive at either WB or Disney i'm sure you're on the edge of your seat to see how much more money the films add to your swimming pool full of gold coins and trinkets. For everyone else the first concern should be is this a good movie?
We potentially have a summer coming with some really great movies on the way.
Give peace a chance people.
If you're an executive at either WB or Disney i'm sure you're on the edge of your seat to see how much more money the films add to your swimming pool full of gold coins and trinkets. For everyone else the first concern should be is this a good movie?
We potentially have a summer coming with some really great movies on the way.
Give peace a chance people.
A "positive impression" doesn't compare to the insane buzz surrounding the Joker and Ledger's performance. The catchphrase was everywhere months before the movie was released.
And people saw the movie, and they loved the shit out of it. The next one is called the Dark Knight Rises, and you think that just because Heath Ledger who in box office terms was a nobody considering his true last appearance in film was completely ignored, will make such a difference? As if Joker is suddenly better known than Batman, gimme a break.
Have it your way.
The Elite
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800 mil is low? That's a very good number for a comic book flick.
I just don't feel that there is the same hype and momentum going into this film as there was with Dark Knight.
That may change after a good trailer. I just know the big buzz around TDK was Ledger which in part accounts for the huge difference in gross between TDK and Batman Begins.
Flame Lord
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Going to go with TDKR.
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