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[ponpo]

Also a Demon's Souls chara since they own that IP as well.

Actually really human characters make these games look really boring. More random cartoon characters.

Klonoa where.

 

[Kurod]

Any chance for Biggs from Critter Crunch to make it in? He could eat up items and vomit rainbows on enemies.

 

[SLV]

I know people want Cloud but if they went with Squall he could represent both Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy

As far as i know, Cloud is in kingdom hearts as well

 

[Shiggy]

Isn't that a Wii behind the woman ?

It's often happening that dev teams play similar games from other platforms do get inspiration. You don't think that they let employees extensively play Street Fighter, Tekken, or SSB to get a good feel for beat'em'ups?

 

[KingK]

"ARE" or "WERE"

because im talking about WERE. smash bros did not make samus, fox and kirby popular. they were well-known beforehand. that's my point. i have said nothing negative of the popularity of the sony franchises then and now. really as for current day (as in ARE), i can wholeheartedly agree that some of the franchises are relative to some of nintendos offerings in terms of "known".

when melee was released in NA, who the fuck knew who marth and roy were? didn't stop anyone from enjoying the additions to the game or the game itself. am i talking about those characters? nope. am i talking about sony characters? nope. just samus, fox and kirby back then.

Look, all I was saying was

Popularity of Mario, DK, Zelda, and Pokemon THEN or NOW >>> Anything else Nintendo or Sony has

Popularity of Samus and Fox THEN ~= Popularity of Kratos and Nathan Drake NOW

Popularity of Kirby THEN < Popularity of Samus/Fox THEN or Kratos/Drake NOW (and I may be wrong on this, but it's the impression I got back then)

where THEN represents N64 time and NOW is obviously modern time. The only one I said Smash made popular was Kirby, which I might be wrong about but I got that impression. I was merely stating that Samus and Fox, while popular, are not on some level unreachable by Sony like Mario and co. are.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

But Cloud was in Kingdom Hearts as well...

but in a much smaller role imo.

 

[funkystudent]

Hey guys.

Kratos is in Mortal Kombat. Cole is in SFxT. Sony clearly has a close relationship with both WB and Capcom.

Sony. Come on. Get Ryu and Scorpion so I can make them fight. You have to.

and BATMAN!!!

 

[SuperSonic1305]

doesn't sound like a really fun implementation for a fighting game.

Damn it. SONY COPIES NINTENDO AGAIN.

Anyway, anybody else think they revealed this a month before E3 so they would have time to change things if people bitched about it?

 

[Jackben]

I know people want Cloud but if they went with Squall he could represent both Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy

Cloud is in Kingdom Hearts as well. So are Sephiroth, Aerith and Yuffie.

 

[Darknight]

Any way these can make it in?

 

[libregkd]

but in a much smaller role imo.

Eh, true in the first game, not quite as true in the second.

Either way, if they're going to include a FF character, you have to admit that Cloud would be the primary choice any KH representation should be done by using an original KH character.

 

[CrunchyFrog]

Nice to finally see this in action. I need more local multiplayer stuff on PS3. That being said, I'm not sold on the "only special attacks can earn KO's" aspect, but I'd have to play it to really make a judgement. Will be interested in seeing what features/modes they add on later on. But also yeah, while this is a pretty blatant cash-in on the Smash Bros. success, I think one of the previews was right in that if any other company had the assets to pull one off it would be Sony. And lord knows I welcome more entries in this genre. (what do you call this genre exactly anyway? fighting game is too simple, but platforming beat-em-up doesn't exactly nail it either)

 

[Tiamant]

Another thing they should really avoid is walking guns. It will be more than enough with the inevitable Drake and Chimera/Hale plus Radec from Killzone. Stop it right there, be imaginative with the characters or use the gun games to make scenarios. Seriously, gun characters in fighting games should be banned from existance.

 

[Misterhbk]

Any way these can make it in?

Nope, not a chance.

 

[corporate cheerleader]

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• There are occasional freezing issues, try not to use the XMB at all while the game is playing or loading.
• Level 3 supers freeze the match often, prepare for hatemail if you're the perpetrator. (prepare for hatemail period if you play as Sly)
• Incorrect victory poses.
• Music can go silent in the character select screen. Exit back to title screen to resume it.

Welcome to the PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale Beta Thread 2.0! Post here to brag about your victories, tell fellow Gaffers that they're cheap and untalented Sly Cooper players, or simply share your mind about the game! Plenty of people have tried it out now and the general concensus is that it is a very fun game; even skeptics who assumed this was a blatant rip-off were convinced otherwise. Not only that, the online play is very smooth, asides from the occasional teleporting in certain matches. You can scroll down to read GAF impressions, character tactics, move lists, informative videos and the list of players who you can grief.​

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Simple, go to the PlayStation Store and download it! Plus members get early access to it, non-Plus members will have to wait until Fall.​

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• 4 player free-for-all
• Win the 3-minute match by earning the highest score
• Each kill is +2 points, each death -1
• Kill opponents with super attacks
• Keep attacking opponents to earn AP (blue balls, haha) that fill your super gauge
• Super gauge has 3 levels: level 1 supers are hard to kill with and level 3 supers the easiest

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Left Analog Stick/D-Pad: Movement
Direction on Right Analog Stick: Throw
X: Jump
Square: Attack 1
Triangle: Attack 2
Circle: Attack 3
L1: Block
L2: Taunt
R1: Item pick-up/drop
R2: Super Attack
L1 + Left Analog Stick/D-Pad movement: Evading/Rolling​

Here are the available characters and their re-done move lists. Special thanks to tribal24 and others for the information. Also thanks to the anonymous IGN member for ripping off the design of the original move list down to a t and using it for their wiki without crediting tribal24. Ripped off their move list table design in return. What is it with this game and rip-offs? Geez.​

JStein0222 is perhaps the most prominent beta player here on GAF, just ask any person who got his ass kicked by him. In this section, he'll break down every character in full detail. You can find information here that's not only useful to new people, but more advanced players as well. Listed below are the pros and cons of each character, click the link to read the detailed breakdown. JStein0222's Write Ups.​

This Versatile Spartan Warrior Is Pissed Because This Game Isn't Rated M
Pros:
- Strong combo efficient attacks have long range
- Variety of moves for any distance/angle
- Insane level 3 super

Cons:
- Level 1 and 2 supers are just okay. Moreso the level 2.
- Bald

The Up Close And Personal Rapper Who Will Make You Believe In Yourself
Pros:
- Very accessible fighter, good for beginners.
- Quick melee moves
- Excellent straightforward supers that are easy to land
- Parappa is an awesome character

Cons:
- Not very ranged or varied moveset making him more predictable.
- Has a hard time dealing with more ranged attackers like Radec and Kratos.

A Thief That Leaves The Opposition Confused, Disoriented And Broke
Pros:
- a ton of movement options lead to awesome avoidance abilities.
- quick cane attacks are sweet
- Being invisible is really useful for offense and defense
- Level 1 super is great.

Cons:
- Has no long range attacks
- Helpless when dealing with mid-close range physical attacks
- Level 3 super is meh

This Colonel Has A Very Huge Personal Space And Will Shoot Anyone Who Enters It
Pros:
- Long Range attacks have great knockback and build a ton of meter
- Low level supers can kill from long range, so you know you won’t be counter supered.
- A lot of different attacks; keep foes guessing.
- Bad Ass catchphrases

Cons:
- Slow. Can be annoying when you need to get to the other side of the stage.
- No movement options like other characters. Can basically only run and jump which makes it harder to avoid getting killed by supers.
- Doesn’t have the same up close combo ability as the other characters, strong attacks push people away.

Assassin, Racer And A Clown: This Tough Guy Has Quite A Resume
Pros:
- Strong meter building attacks
- A lot of tricky attacks to keep foes guessing
- Level 3 super can score a ton of kills.

Cons:
- Level 1/2 supers are harder to land than most
- Not a lot of mobility options
- Big hit box

The Above Average Princess Who Can Work The Crowd
Pros:
- Easy to combo with
- Area of effect moves, good for groups
- Easy to land supers

Cons:
- Lacks range
- Not a ton of moveset variation
- Obese
- Has stage 2 diabetes

Man-is-Obsolete also did some write ups, here is a snippet of his favorite, Fat Princess:

Pros

- Great at chaining combos, especially juggling.
- Can rain death from above with bombs and a very effective but stomp that can be used to lead into a combo. Also the Warrior attack out of the air can be chained into a combo.
- Throw swings opponent around and can hit others around you

Cons

- Outside of the Belly Dash mobility isn't great.
- Is a character that will require patience and blocking to be effective
- Have to work for your AP, slightly slow gainer (heh heh).

Below are some official description videos by Sony. They briefly explain moves, strategies and fighting styles of the characters. Very useful, worth checking out for the beginners.

Kratos
Radec
Fat Princess
PaRappa
Sly Cooper
Sweet Tooth​

~ Work in progress ~​

I guess my main issue with the game right now is that you can only keep track of everything if you stay visually focused on everything, and that’s difficult to do in such a chaotic game.

Schobeleth
thepotatoman
Kevincow
SSReborn
Figboy
TimeEffect
Intellihealth
Drencrom​

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If I missed your post by any chance, feel free to PM me your info and I'll add it to the list.

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Tribal24 / Tribal24 / NA
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Figboy79 / Figboy / US
xkillthemx / killthem16 / NA
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lolez2matt / lolez2matt / Chile
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Pai Pai Master / PaiPai / USA
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Desmond / DessieB93 / Ireland
Drencrom / Drencrom / Sweden
Acquiescence / Acquiescence / England
Napalm_Frank / NapalmFrank / Fin
Grokbu / Grokbu / Sweden
TurkishEmperor / TurkishEmperor / EU
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[Schrödinger's cat]

Kazuma's level 3 move would probably elevate the game to a Mature rating. It would involve his knee, his opponent's face and then a floor... preferably made out of concrete.

Yum.

I'm sure they can find a solution to work Kazuma into a lower-age-rated game. For my money I'd say Kratos is the more brutal of the two characters.

 

[KingK]

Any way these can make it in?

I hope so. If only for a chance of getting Dark Cloud 3.

 

[Figboy79]

I just want Cole in, he's the character that has tons of potential. Imagine a Lightning Storm as a level 3. He could be the Princess Zelda of the game by transforming back and forth from Good to Evil.

Nathan Drake can work, make him into a brawler that combos a lot and for his level 1 finisher it'll be the Brutal combo. Level 2 be some sort of Steel fist combo (shooting and punching) that last for a certain duration. Level 3 I don't know.

Nates level 3: He collapses the stage. lol. He can't seem to get involved in any adventure without it destroying the whatever it is he is looking for. lol.

 

[DrPirate]

Look, all I was saying was

Popularity of Mario, DK, Zelda, and Pokemon THEN or NOW >>> Anything else Nintendo or Sony has

Popularity of Samus and Fox THEN ~= Popularity of Kratos and Nathan Drake NOW

Popularity of Kirby THEN < Popularity of Samus/Fox THEN or Kratos/Drake NOW (and I may be wrong on this, but it's the impression I got back then)

where THEN represents N64 time and NOW is obviously modern time. The only one I said Smash made popular was Kirby, which I might be wrong about but I got that impression. I was merely stating that Samus and Fox, while popular, are not on some level unreachable by Sony like Mario and co. are.

But where are your sources?

Is this a peer reviewed source?

Did you conduct a poll? A survey?

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Eh, true in the first game, not quite as true in the second.

Either way, if they're going to include a FF character, you have to admit that Cloud would be the primary choice any KH representation should be done by using an original KH character.

yeah, though I think they will go with Lightning for FF.

 

[Misterhbk]

Nates level 3: He collapses the stage. lol. He can't seem to get involved in any adventure without it destroying the whatever it is he is looking for. lol.

That's actually a good idea lol. Drake collapses the stage and auto survives while the others have to jump, double jump and struggle to stay on the stage to avoid being KO'd

 

[darkwing]

I cant believe this game is a rock solid 60FPS with all the things going on the screen.


http://www.g4tv.com/games/ps3/66057...battle-royale-hands-on-preview-smashy-smashy/

I fear this info will be buried now that other thread is closed :|

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Anyway, anybody else think they revealed this a month before E3 so they would have time to change things if people bitched about it?

I was starting to think that crazy leak was intentional to see if people were okay with an SSB-esque game.


On another note I think Superbot should really up the ante and have this game be up to 6 or 8 players

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Did you start playign Atari when it first came out or did you dad dust it off for you when you were old enough to play games?

Whether you like a character or not, even if you've never heard of them... If millions upon millions of other people do know them. Then that character is considered big... agreed?

Starfox not only brought 3d graphics to the home consoles, it also brought rumble technology in its sequel.
Maybe you know Samus by her other name... Metroid

No. I played Atari in 1990. Than i had an NES, than a Sega Mega Drive (at a friends house, and borrowed it for 6 month) PS2, PC, PS3. I wanted to say that Fox is not as big as Pokemon, but sometimes i think about typing a word and think that i typed it, but i actually did not type it . It might have sold millions, but Fox is not recognizable outside of its core fans. For instance GTA/Mario/Pokemon are known to hardcore and casual gamers. If people do not recognize Fox, that does not mean they are none gamers or live on the moon. The whole notion is offensive.

 

[nintendoman58]

I'm actually glad this game is real. I mean, me may now have a direct rival to Smash Bros. I can see it now... In the future, we will have discussion threads discussing balancing issues between the two franchises.

What I REALLY can't wait to see though is the developers behind Project M actually hacking this game so that it plays like Melee. With Melee characters. Ohhh man, if this works out, this is gonna be a megaton.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Another thing they should really avoid is walking guns. It will be more than enough with the inevitable Drake and Chimera/Hale plus Radec from Killzone. Stop it right there, be imaginative with the characters or use the gun games to make scenarios. Seriously, gun characters in fighting games should be banned from existance.

Im hoping Drake is more of a slugger with weapons as specials, etc.

 

[ponpo]

Here comes a new challenger

 

[Kjellson]

I hope Sony's Metroid-equivalent's Ridley-equivalent is playable in this game.

 

[darkwing]

The super system sounds pretty broken, at least the way he described Parappa's Level 3. Being able to kill every opponent no matter where they are on the stage or in relation to your own character doesn't sound like a really fun implementation for a fighting game.

http://www.g4tv.com/games/ps3/66057...battle-royale-hands-on-preview-smashy-smashy/

Once you’ve reach level 1, 2, or 3, you’re free to unleash the super, but as game director Oman Kendall explained, a well-timed level 1 super can be just as effective as a level 3 if used smartly, suggesting that timing can often be more important than sheer power level. Based on the matches I played, this absolutely ended up being the case (I think my 5-0 record more than proved that). So while turning Sweettooth into a towering, machine gun-armed Mechatooth or riding around on a giant chicken as Fat Princess can be highly deadly, so too can PaRappa’s skateboarding attack, because it all depends on who happens to be in your immediate area at the time you trigger the super, adding a great level of strategy to the chaotic action.

 

[KingK]

But where are your sources?

Is this a peer reviewed source?

Did you conduct a poll? A survey?

lol, the sources are my vast amounts of personal experiences and fine tuned intuition.

 

[Figboy79]

That's actually a good idea lol. Drake collapses the stage and auto survives while the others have to jump, double jump and struggle to stay on the stage to avoid being KO'd

Lol. That sounds really fun, actually. It would be chaotic. All the player controlling Drake would have to do is press some QTE buttons (same with Kratos, actually). lol.

As a longtime PlayStation fan, this game is amazing to me.

As a longtime Nintendo fan, I'm glad SSB is getting some competition that looks genuinely promising.

Also, I find this really funny:

People come in and hate on the game for being a Smash Bros clone.

Those same people then hate on all of the features that differentiate it from Smash Bros. lol

 

[zroid]

Just watched that first Gametrailers video and the whole they're like "this mechanic is KIND OF like Smash Bros but it's different because _______."

The super system sounds pretty broken, at least the way he described Parappa's Level 3. Being able to kill every opponent no matter where they are on the stage or in relation to your own character doesn't sound like a really fun implementation for a fighting game.

Haha, yeah, as I watched the video, I just kept thinking to my myself, "I hear you, guys, but everything I see still looks nearly identical to Smash Bros." The way they attempted to make the dodging sound different just came off as farcical.

Having said that, I don't have a huge problem with the Super mechanic (or the extent of copycatting, really), it's similar-but-different in a way that might work. We really need to see more, and in much greater detail.

 

[Kyon]

Kazuma the main from Yakuza has to be in right? Yakuza is basically a Exclusive PS Franchise anyway.

 

[ShadowOS]

And, don't take this the wrong way, but you're full of shit.

I never once said that nobody knew who Fox, Samus, etc. were. I said they were nowhere near the same level of recognition as Mario, DK, and Pokemon. I said they were on a similar level of recognition as Nathan Drake and Kratos. So unless you think that nobody knows who those two are, then I don't see how you could misconstrue my statement to mean that Samus and Fox were nobodies, unless you're just trying to manufacture outrage.

As for Kirby, I was born in '92 and nobody I knew had any idea who Kirby was until Smash Bros.

you said

Neither Samus or Fox are any more well known than Kratos or Nathan Drake, and Kirby was probably less well known than any of them before Smash made him famous.

Really, the Mario characters, DK, Pokemon, and Link are the only ones Nintendo has that have a significantly larger brand awareness than Sony's most famous characters.

you are correct about not having mentioned samus and fox being unknown/not popular. i think that came into play after someone else spoke of not knowing who they were and i misconstrued it as you talking about those two characters. for that i apologize.

you did however say kirby was 'probably less unknown than [fox and samus]' before smash bros. that is the original thing i responded to you about and i maintain that it was still a very dumb thing to say

I give it a month before you're banned. There's a right way to make a point and a wrong way...you continue to insist on using the wrong way. That's not going to get you very far around here

yes i see that now. calling someone out for saying something dumb is a big no-no. ive had multiple other members assert their post-count dominance and call me troll and yell at me already without a hint of hypocrisy in the air around them.

holier than thou much?

I was a kid when the original smash bros came out. I didn't know a lot of the characters, other than mario and company. Did I still enjoy the game? Yes, I loved it. It was because of that game that I learned who star fox, metroid and so on we're. Did the game make me want to go out and buy a star fox game? No. But I still enjoyed the character within smash bros.

It'll probably be the same for this game. Sure there are a lot of characters people may not know of. No one is gonna become a huge fat princess fan because of this game but that doesn't mean they can't enjoy her being in this game. Same goes for any other characters that make it in.

ooooooookay. i didn't say obscure characters or popularity in the roster matters. im actually looking forward to this game even though it may dethrone SSB. if it's a fun skill-based game then im all for it. hopefully this will put fire under nintendo's ass so they don't turn churn out another terribad brawl.

Popularity of Kirby THEN < Popularity of Samus/Fox THEN or Kratos/Drake NOW (and I may be wrong on this, but it's the impression I got back then)

the bolded is all i had a problem with

as i said at the top of this post, the samus/fox thing got dragged in by someone else and i mistakenly lumped you into that. again my apologies.

i also should not have called you dumb like that. my apologies for that too.

 

[Acquiescence]

You are indicating that I am not allowed to draw comparisons between the popularity of Nintendo franchises compared to Sony franchises when this is completely valid in this case. I also pointed out why, so please go back a few pages and trace that back. I don't feel the need to explain everything twice when you seem to deliberately ignore those arguments because you do not like them.

You don't have to be obtuse; you could just quote me the posts explaining your reasoning, because all I'm seeing are replies containing insightful declarations like - and I'm paraphrasing here - "nothing Sony has is as popular as Mario in Germany" or "SSB wouldn't have been as popular without its top-tier franchises like Mario." In response I've merely highlighted how tiresome your comparison is because it in no way effects Battle Royale's potential success, while at the same time acknowledging that it's doubtful BR will sell as many copies as SSB.

You're not the first person to come into a Battle Royale thread and spout that "lolz, Sony doesn't have characters like Mario and Zelda to make this kind of game." It's just that usually those people don't back-pedal as soon as someone highlights the fact that you don't need an ultra-iconic character to sell such a game, as long as the popular franchises are there, all together in one big celebration of a company brand.

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

Kazuma the main from Yakuza has to be in right? Yakuza is basically a Exclusive PS Franchise anyway.

Yupyup.

And he's a character that'd resonate with Japanese gamers too - something the revealed character line-up lacks.

It has to happen!

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

There were a couple of interesting things dropped when the team was interviewed by Verge:
http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/4/27/2977903/playstation-all-star-battle-royale

The team includes fighting designers with experience on games as new as UFC Undisputed and as old as X-men Next Dimension. Even Ed Ma, a preeminent Street Fighter IV player, is on the combat team.

Game Director Omar Kendall tells me that though the game has a casual appeal, they want it to serve doubly as a competitive fighting experience.

Also he talks about SSB:

The game and its developers aren't shy about similarities to Super Smash Bros. Before the match, a Ready, Fight introduction splash on the screen.

Says Kendall, "We don't shy away from the fact that we as huge fans and as developers have borrowed from the great history fighting games have."

 

[Acquiescence]

Yum.

I'm sure they can find a solution to work Kazuma into a lower-age-rated game. For my money I'd say Kratos is the more brutal of the two characters.

I was just joking man - there's no way this would be an M-rated game. Yeah, much like Kratos and Sweet Tooth, Superbot would find a way to tone down the violence of Kazuma's attacks. There's nothing stopping him from featuring in the roster, and by rights he SHOULD be in the game.

 

[QisTopTier]

I said it before I'll say it again. Ratchet is either going to be really OP or Really shitty. I see no middle ground for him.

 

[KingK]

stuff

oh, ok. Glad we got that all sorted out then, no hard feelings

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

No. I played Atari in 1990. Than i had an NES, than a Sega Mega Drive (at a friends house, and borrowed it for 6 month) PS2, PC, PS3. I wanted to say that Fox is not as big as Pokemon, but sometimes i think about typing a word and think that i typed it, but i actually did not type it . It might have sold millions, but Fox is not recognizable outside of its core fans. For instance GTA/Mario/Pokemon are known to hardcore and casual gamers. If people do not recognize Fox, that does not mean they are none gamers or live on the moon. The whole notion is offensive.

lol i have the same problem. Didn't mean for it to sound the way it did. but you left out the rest of my reply where I acknowledged that the games can help with introducing characters to a new generation.

My point was regardless if you personally dont know the character doesn't mean they aren't well know, and I do agree with you that if we are to switch it up and start comparing popularity between the characters within a company's franchises that Samus and Fox don't bring in money like Mario and Pikachu do

 

[elcapitan]

The super system sounds pretty broken, at least the way he described Parappa's Level 3. Being able to kill every opponent no matter where they are on the stage or in relation to your own character doesn't sound like a really fun implementation for a fighting game.

It's a fighting game. The solution to that is, I don't know, keep Parappa from reaching level 3 in the first place? It's not like players are getting AP for free, they have to earn their specials by duking it out with the other players. Like many others have said, the system seems to reward players by getting into the thick of the action, instead of running away.

In Smash, I always get the most KOs, but I hardly ever win because I stupidly kill myself (mistimed jumps, etc) a lot. This game already has a different flavor for the KO system alone.

 

[AgentChris]

I said it before I'll say it again. Ratchet is either going to be really OP or Really shitty. I see no middle ground for him.

I think Ratchet & Sackboy are gonna be beast.

 

[SmithnCo]

Hey guys.

Kratos is in Mortal Kombat. Cole is in SFxT. Sony clearly has a close relationship with both WB and Capcom.

Sony. Come on. Get Ryu and Scorpion so I can make them fight. You have to.

HNNNNG.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

There were a couple of interesting things dropped when the team was interviewed by Verge:
http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/4/27/2977903/playstation-all-star-battle-royale



Also he talks about SSB:

OH, Shit!

Ed Ma helped on this? That's a good look! I don't like smash bros and this game doesn't really appeal to me all that much either, I think Smash has a lot of room for improvement so if this is it then that's cool with me.

 

[KevinCow]

The super system sounds pretty broken, at least the way he described Parappa's Level 3. Being able to kill every opponent no matter where they are on the stage or in relation to your own character doesn't sound like a really fun implementation for a fighting game.

Imagine it's Smash Bros., but reversed.

As you hit someone, instead of his percentage going up and flying further, your percentage goes up to make your hits harder. It makes a free-for-all a bit different, but a 1-on-1 would play identically.

Now, at about 70%, you might get a KO if you're good. At 140%, you're probably going to get a KO if you're decent. At over 200%, you're basically guaranteed a KO.

That seems to be the general concept of the game. Similar to Smash Bros. in the sense that you beat up your opponent a bit, then finish him off with a powerful attack, but with a completely different mechanic.

 

[DimmuBurgerKing]

The physics look almost exactly like Smash Bros. This isn't a bad thing really, but I'm not very optimistic about the lack of damage meters or smash/"ringout" wins. Maybe it'll help differentiate it from Smash, but it's part of the latter game's appeal.

 

[darkwing]

There were a couple of interesting things dropped when the team was interviewed by Verge:
http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/4/27/2977903/playstation-all-star-battle-royale



Also he talks about SSB:

thanks for the info tidbit

 

[jett]

What game is this level from?

This game looks good btw. Looking forward to more info.

It's Jak And Daxter mixed with Hot Shots Golf.

 

[QisTopTier]

The physics look almost exactly like Smash Bros. This isn't a bad thing really, but I'm not very optimistic about the lack of damage meters or smash/"ringout" wins. Maybe it'll help differentiate it from Smash, but it's part of the latter game's appeal.

Almost like it, but the hit stun looks way higher so it's more combo friendly. One of the video's showed just that with some combos kratos was doing