KH3 would have to be for the 360.
That would be perfect.
Exclusively? I don't think that would be in SE's best interest considering the way things are in their home territory.
I say make it for the 360 and PS3. the USA, UK, and EU are a lot bigger market now than Japan.
Makes sense, but good luck convincing SE. It will probably be a handheld game due to the market in Japan.
Fuck Nomura. Wait, I don't mean that- he gave us TWEWY.
Fuck his baseless promises and slow development schedule. I'm sick and tired of hearing this shit and never seeing anything concrete; if you're going to give out promises like halloween candy, then please, for the love of god, do not give out excreted shit in candy wrappers. Because that just isn't right.
I'm not even talking about Versus. I could care less about Versus. What Versus? It's just that he announces announcement of announcements, made up of announcements, zipped up in convoluted shit that doesn't mean anything at the moment until the gods that be decide they want to 'maybe' start it up. But ok. It happens.
Sorry for the rant.
There's been one KH game per year for the past 4 years. So he certainly doesn't have a slow development schedule.
Are we including the handheld games in this. Because other than BbS- what's up?
Fuck Nomura. Wait, I don't mean that- he gave us TWEWY.
Fuck his baseless promises and slow development schedule. I'm sick and tired of hearing this shit and never seeing anything concrete; if you're going to give out promises like halloween candy, then please, for the love of god, do not give out excreted shit in candy wrappers. Because that just isn't right.
I'm not even talking about Versus. I could care less about Versus. What Versus? It's just that he announces announcement of announcements, made up of announcements, zipped up in convoluted shit that doesn't mean anything at the moment until the gods that be decide they want to 'maybe' start it up. But ok. It happens.
Sorry for the rant.
I totally agree with regards to his baseless promises. I can GUARANTEE you, if there's no release date to the next game announced, I wont touch another game from him.
It might apply to Square Enix in general, if they use the same business practices as Nomura for any other Final Fantasy or possibly any other game I'd be interested in, then F that... at that point, when Versus comes out, Square Enix will have died on a good note to me & I just wont buy anything from them at that point.
Honestly, apart from Type-0 and Versus what other SE game has been stuck in development limbo? All other SE games this gen get revealed 2 years prior to their release at most, which is not unconventional in the industry (Theatherythm and XIII-2 actually got released within a year of being announced)
People are kind of forgetting that its SE higher ups thats preventing him from talking about Versus, if he thinks he can talk about it some day, and that time comes and they still tell him no he can't talk about it, what is he supposed to do?
Hence the "If" part.
People should also stop treating handheld games as if they are something awful which isn't even worth considered to be a game. All KH handheld games could easily have been console games.
Honestly, apart from Type-0 and Versus what other SE game has been stuck in development limbo? All other SE games this gen get revealed 2 years prior to their release at most, which is not unconventional in the industry (Theatherythm and XIII-2 actually got released within a year of being announced)
Type-0
Versus
FFXIII
The 3rd Birthday
FFVII Crisis Core
The problem is the ratio. How many big AAA productions has SE even released in a reasonable time manner this gen?
BBS (still took 3 years)
DQIX (hard to tell what a reasonable time is for DQ games)
KH 3D
FFXIII-2
and the last two are only there because of Wada's new "less polish, content, and quality, more 2 year cycles" policy.
SE gets a bad rap because most of their AAA production stuff has been in 3-7 year dev cycles per game. Maybe development hell, maybe just Valve/Blizzard time. Who knows. But SE games this gen have taken a long time to make, even on PSP. This trend is now over though as Wada's policy of 1.8 year dev cycles seems to be working with FFXIII-2 and KH 3D's quick releases. All AAA productions from here on out should fall in line. But stuff that started before that is still in limbo like Versus.
Now with the lower budget non-AAA stuff, SE has managed to make games in reasonable time this gen as they did last gen. It's only the big budget stuff that they've dropped the ball on.
Yeah, and, it pains me to say, most people really only judge a company by their HD output; and that couldn't be more embarrassing for SE.
They have only a three internally developed HD games. One of which took them forever to develop, had an extremely controversial reception and is considered the lowpoint of the franchise. The second game was an unfinished and broken MMO that they couldn't even monetize. And the third game is an asset reshuffle of their first HD game and nobody even cared about that anymore.
Versus being stuck in development hell for over half a decade is just the icing on the cake.
There's still the problem with SCEA's policy of not allowing physical release of HD remasters as single games though. I wonder how SE will bypass that with FFX HD.
I think SE's biggest problem still lies within management.
Won't be KH3...
At this point, I kind of hate Versus.
The FFX HD upgrade will be the version with all the additions that it got after the vanilla Japanese version, as far as we know. No reason why they wouldn't do the same for Kingdom Hearts.Want: Kingdom Hearts HD Collection (Final Mix versions) and Kingdom Hearts III announcement.
Will get: Kingdom Hearts 1 HD (Regular version) and nw Kingdom Hearts mobile game announcement.
Sorry, just no faith left.
It's easy to do HD games when they are just prettied up PS2 (or, in NIS's case, PS1) games and do nothing too ambitious gameplay-wise (yeah, FFXIII is a pipefest, but at least the battlesystem is something fresh & fast-paced). Hell, it's not too far off to say that Square Enix's output on handhelds is more impressive than most Gust or NIS games.I've said this in another thread, but you know SE is in rough shape when companies like Gust and NIS have more internally developed HD games than them.
I think SE's biggest problem still lies within management.
What would be interesting, is if he included the BBSv2 scenario as the opening moments for Versus so no one would be salty about it.
It would be like Roxas in KH2, only not as boring.
You mean in KH3, not Versus, right?
LOL.I think this explains a lot of things!
Well, if you're comparing them to GUST or NIS, you can see where the problem lies.
SE games have 5x the model quality, amount of textures, detailed environments, animations, etc... than anything from GUST/NIS, so it does make sense SE games would take longer.
I think SE's problem is actually striving too high with the visual fidelity of their titles. FFXIII looked incredible when it came out. But are those visuals really worth spending 4-6 years on a game? Especially from a financial perspective. Especially if the game underneath those visuals turns out to be a failure?
Otoh, FFXIII-2 & KH 3D's visual roughness bother me a lot personally. So I don't know what the solution is. Less graphical ambition with more polish aka, what Gust does?
Type 0/3rd Birthday were just bad management though as a result of going from cellphone games -> PSP titles.
I think this explains a lot of things!
is his FOCUS to ruin the Final Fantasy name?
If so, he should be turning to crystal very soon.
Do not question Imperial HOT and his greatness.
hshahaaI'll believe it when I finally see a release date on it..... Next gen launch game for sure.....
2 spin-offs, you mean? I don't see anyone requesting a spin-off to Days or Coded.
lol
Seriously, stop letting him work on so many other things at once.
but who can they trust to replace him with?
toriyama/tanaka/kawazu?
lolol
kitase not happening and tabata probably too green(put him on FFVIIR!)?
SE's need for him to work on so many things is probably the reason versus is not outright cancelled at this point XD