Pixel Pete
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Just ordered a g700 with same day shipping, will try some d3 beta with it tonight >
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Choosing a gaming Mouse
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Soakedjunk
Member
I can vouch for this as well (I have the RAT 7 - but same basic idea). Fantastic mouse, I don't think I'll ever go back to Razer for a gaming mouse.
lastflowers
Banned
I've got the RAT 7, great mouse.
This is true, it happened to mine. Now I'm stuck using a cheap Dynex. :'(
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
I am on the wired version of one of these. I had the wireless for a while but it was doing the doubleclicking shit and I couldn't take it anymore. They totally suck for gaming. Do not do it.
codswallop
Member
So how was the trackball for pointing? That's really what I'm most interested in. Given that a trackball doesn't move I don't really care if it's wired... was more just gauging opinions on trackball gaming as my wrist is beginning to hate all the movement.
Fury Sense
Member
My G5 has been absolutely solid. It's simple, durable, and functional. Not sure if any newer model is better, I really like the +/- button positions on this because I've mapped them to cut and paste and have the side button as undo.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
I think the issue is that the ball needs to be bigger or somehow have a better suspension system, maybe to be put on rollers inside with rubber grip. The ball needs a certain amount of pressure before it moves, and when it does, it kind of jumps. This is okay if you're making a big movement, but small movements are really annoying, and slow panning comes out like a series of little jumps.
This makes the other major issue worse. If you have a sensitivity high enough to actually get around the entire screen, it's hard to have smooth, precise control, because that little jump is now a big jump. So you think okay, then lower sensitivity, but then it barely gets around the screen. In windows you can be okay taking your time to get around (or fling it into a free spin), and the acceleration setting in windows is nice, but in games neither of these things is desirable.
For wrist issues, I think getting a light mouse (like steelseries) adopting the claw grip and playing lower sensitivity to use your arm more than your wrist would be best.
codswallop
Member
Awesome, thanks Dice. I wasn't sure if gaming trackballs were (or still are) a chicken and egg thing or if they truly aren't any good for gaming.
I'll just stick with a mouse then!
I'll just stick with a mouse then!
GAF, I have to confess. I've been a bit of a mouse junkie, but I'm cured now and I've finally settled on using the Kinzu V2. But for a while, I just wanted to try out new stuff. Had the same run with joysticks and buttons for arcade sticks. Sanwa, Seimitsu, Happ, Crown and so on. Guess I'm a bit of a hardware junkie.
Mice in the picture, from upper left:
MCSaite USB 2.0 600/1000/1600DPI Optical Mouse - Black
MCSaite USB 2.0 600/1000/1600DPI Optical Mouse - Black
MCSaite USB 2.0 600/1000/1600DPI Optical Mouse - Black
Clas Ohlson no name optical mouse
Absolute M4, bought it on eBay
3utech V8, got this on eBay as well.
Logitech MX518
Labtec corded laser glow mouse
Ace ML20 Pure Mini
Ace EDGE GX300
Razer Imperator
Steelseries Kinzu V2
Mice in the picture, from upper left:
MCSaite USB 2.0 600/1000/1600DPI Optical Mouse - Black
MCSaite USB 2.0 600/1000/1600DPI Optical Mouse - Black
MCSaite USB 2.0 600/1000/1600DPI Optical Mouse - Black
Clas Ohlson no name optical mouse
Absolute M4, bought it on eBay
3utech V8, got this on eBay as well.
Logitech MX518
Labtec corded laser glow mouse
Ace ML20 Pure Mini
Ace EDGE GX300
Razer Imperator
Steelseries Kinzu V2
Been in to razor or logitech mice after I realized the old MS optical mice weren't good for overclocking the pollrate and simply didn't have the dpi for a while. Last few years been switch back between a mx518, deathadder, and now a G400. I really got hooked when I had my first MX510 and someone jacked it up to 1000mhz.
All I can say on choose is get something that fits your comfort style, has decent buttons, and decent dpi. As long as you aren't in super resolution territory 800-1600dpi is more than enough.
All I can say on choose is get something that fits your comfort style, has decent buttons, and decent dpi. As long as you aren't in super resolution territory 800-1600dpi is more than enough.
Ok, maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me, but in the picture those look all different, but you're saying they're all the same model?
Also, what happened to your Imperator?
I hate karma...I was trying to find a power adapter for this old USB hub -- took one off of a Logitech joystick because it looked to be the right size. As soon as I plug my G9 in, I see the DPI indicator flash white. Then I realized that the G9 doesn't have white as one of the color options for the DPI indicator and it was actually a white spark as the mouse shorted out.
Not going to be a jerk and try to RMA it since it was my fault. But now I'm stuck browsing the internet with my 360 controller + JoyToKey :'( and trying to find a local place to buy a mouse that isn't ridiculously price gougey.
Not going to be a jerk and try to RMA it since it was my fault. But now I'm stuck browsing the internet with my 360 controller + JoyToKey :'( and trying to find a local place to buy a mouse that isn't ridiculously price gougey.
fluffydelusions
Member
I picked up a naga for guild wars/D3 mainly and so far I really like it. Still getting used to all the num keys on it but it's really convenient. I can play D3 with just a mouse...so cool lol
Karma part II: The store was fresh out of G9Xs, and the only other viable others were the CM Spawn and the Orochi. I tried the Spawn, and I don't know what the hell they were thinking with the ring+pink finger "shelf" on the right side. Horrible "innovation" -- I'm perfectly happy with those fingers sitting on the mouse pad thank you -- they help me stabilize the mouse when shooting.
So despite myself, I ended up with a third Razer mouse. Temporary situation until I can order a honest-to-goodness G9x. The Orochi will be relegated to HTPC / notebook duty.
So despite myself, I ended up with a third Razer mouse. Temporary situation until I can order a honest-to-goodness G9x. The Orochi will be relegated to HTPC / notebook duty.
Winnie the Pimp
Member
i was gonna upgrade but after reading all this, fuck that, i think i will stick with my MX 518, it's now 3 years old, still going strong and it feels good...
I got deluded into thinking other mice might feel even BETTER but the ONLY one that managed that feat was my gf's G5, BEST MOUSE EVER for comfort imo, what a damn shame they don't make em anymore, or else i woulda bought one for myself
I got deluded into thinking other mice might feel even BETTER but the ONLY one that managed that feat was my gf's G5, BEST MOUSE EVER for comfort imo, what a damn shame they don't make em anymore, or else i woulda bought one for myself
After using a few Razer products, including their truly awful 360 controller, you would have to pay me to use anything they make. They are some of the flimsiest garbage I have ever used.
I used random Logitech mice for gaming for years and they were all super reliable, but bought a Steelseries Xai last summer.
I used random Logitech mice for gaming for years and they were all super reliable, but bought a Steelseries Xai last summer.
AwesomeSauce
MagsMoonshine
As much as I loved how smooth the Corsair M60 glided, I got a great deal on a G9x and G105 keyboard for about 70$ together, so I returned the M60.
So far I like the G9x a lot, works well with my hybrid claw grip. My biggest annoyance is Logitech's set point software which is garbage. Never detects my mouse unless I do a workaround. Another annoyance is that the versions I got have MW3 branded everywhere.
So far I like the G9x a lot, works well with my hybrid claw grip. My biggest annoyance is Logitech's set point software which is garbage. Never detects my mouse unless I do a workaround. Another annoyance is that the versions I got have MW3 branded everywhere.
I would advise going to a brick and mortar store to check out your options. I could post pictures, but how the mouse feels in your hand is more important than looks. While it might be strange don't be afraid to drop some money on your mouse. It is something that will really affect your gaming experience.
Personally I'm partial to Logitech products, I have a g5 for my gaming PC, an MX 1100 paired with my notebook, but for travel I use the Microsoft Arc mouse. I don't feel like I should push you towards any of these because mouse preference is pretty subjective.
Personally I'm partial to Logitech products, I have a g5 for my gaming PC, an MX 1100 paired with my notebook, but for travel I use the Microsoft Arc mouse. I don't feel like I should push you towards any of these because mouse preference is pretty subjective.
nextgeneration
Member
A lot of g9x fans here. I guess I'm in the minority, as I did not like the mouse. It was uncomfortable, the two grips were worthless, and the scroll wheel was horrible. I ended up selling it to a coworker and per the advice of PoweredBySoy and other reviews I've seen, I ended up ordering the Cooler Master Spawn. Hopefully, this mouse delivers and can't wait to try it!
Felix Lighter
Member
I'm really considering replacing my MX518 with a g500 mainly because the second thumb button on my MX518 isn't comfortable to push and I really want a scroll wheel that tilts. How is the scroll wheel on the G500? It acts as the middle mouse button too right?
I found it really tricky to hit the middle mouse click without the wheel scrolling on me. The wheel was just too loose. Mentioned it before in this thread and nobody else seemed to have this problem so I was in a store and they had one on display. I tried it and same thing. I dunno, maybe I'm heavy handed or clumsy. I know my 518 wasn't like that even after years of abuse.
Felix Lighter
Member
That's not encouraging. I really like the MX518 but there are a couple small issues I have with it. I really wish the scroll wheel had the tilt functionality. Thanks for the tip.
Peterthumpa
Member
Is there any gaming wireless keyboard/mouse that is really worth it? Input lag isn't really that an issue for me.
futnownarcade
Member
Yeah I have had two naga's for over a year and love them. The numbers come in handy for all sorts of games.
HitokiriNate85
Member
With Diablo 3 coming up, it's time to buy a new mouse. I could really use some recommendations, though. I have a Mac, and when Portal 2 came out last year I bought a cheaper MS mouse since the Mighty/Magic/Bullshit mouse wasn't going to do the trick. I tried every set of drivers I could find, new and old, and never got the mouse running remotely well. Slow, choppy movements, and the feel of the mouse was pretty awful, too.
I want to do things right this time around. I need a mouse that will either a. work correctly out of the box on a mac, or b. one that has drivers that actually work. Working with those MS drivers(frontlight/spotlight/something?) was a nightmare. Beyond that, there are really only a few features I want in a mouse.
- wireless.
- notched scroll wheel. The garbage mouse I mentioned has a free-moving scroll wheel. The worst.
- a couple side buttons.
I used to have a Razer Diamondback when I was into PC gaming and I loved it. Very reliable and comfortable. I looked at their current lineup and honestly, the Naga Epic would pretty much be perfect. However, their mice are expensive, and I was hoping to not have to sell a kidney. Are there any sites that offer good deals on mice? Aside from the slight discounts on Amazon I haven't found anything else.
Any help would be much appreciated.
I want to do things right this time around. I need a mouse that will either a. work correctly out of the box on a mac, or b. one that has drivers that actually work. Working with those MS drivers(frontlight/spotlight/something?) was a nightmare. Beyond that, there are really only a few features I want in a mouse.
- wireless.
- notched scroll wheel. The garbage mouse I mentioned has a free-moving scroll wheel. The worst.
- a couple side buttons.
I used to have a Razer Diamondback when I was into PC gaming and I loved it. Very reliable and comfortable. I looked at their current lineup and honestly, the Naga Epic would pretty much be perfect. However, their mice are expensive, and I was hoping to not have to sell a kidney. Are there any sites that offer good deals on mice? Aside from the slight discounts on Amazon I haven't found anything else.
Any help would be much appreciated.
CosmicQueso
Member
Used one for years, then thought I needed to go to a "gaming mouse". Bah. I look back fondly on those years I was able to use that mouse. Really the best ever. Why they still don't make that one is completely beyond me. I guess they just don't look fancy enough anymore. Sad, really.
SlaughterX
Banned
<3 my Logitech, their warranty is awesome too! My G5 started to short out and they replaced it, out of warranty, and I got to keep my old mouse. That earned them a customer fo life!
WickedCobra03
Member
My Logitech MX500 is still kicking, but i am thinking of getting a Logitech G400 for my next PC build, which is basically a direct descendant of the MX500. It is pretty simple, but it has enough buttons on it that it is enough for most games without becoming overly cumbersome.
Apocryphon
Member
After the soft-touch coating of the wide grip on my much beloved G9 started wearing off after 3 years of use, and a brief period using the hard plastic precision grip that comes with it I made the move to Razer 18 months ago. I've had a DeathAdder and more recently a Mamba 4G, but neither have lived up to the "feel" of the G9. Instead of buying a G9X (which I seriously considered for a while), I've bought a G700 and couldn't be happier. Wired and wireless performance is superb and it feels much more natural to hold than the Razer mice, despite them looking extremely ergonomic.
Interestingly, when Mad Catz launched the R.A.T. range, I went to a local retailer to see what they were like, and even though they are a similar shape to the G9, I found them to be very uncomfortable. You can adjust all the parts sure, but it just didn't do it for me.
I'm interested in the Thermaltake Level 10 M, even though it looks a little garish. Not even sure when it's going to be released.
Interestingly, when Mad Catz launched the R.A.T. range, I went to a local retailer to see what they were like, and even though they are a similar shape to the G9, I found them to be very uncomfortable. You can adjust all the parts sure, but it just didn't do it for me.
I'm interested in the Thermaltake Level 10 M, even though it looks a little garish. Not even sure when it's going to be released.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Woah, just found out about the Cooler Master Inferno. Not quite the full performance of a Steelseries Sensei, but half the price and a better button layout? Yes, please!
Not a difference of grip position so much as load-bearing. Is the weight on your palm or your thumb/ring/pinky fingertips?
Ah, I see, I think. The weight is on my palm if I am only using M1, M2 and the scrolling wheel, but on the finger tips when I have to use both of the side buttons (especially the front one) on my mx 518.
Thanks to both of you!
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Hmmmmm.... Still somewhat hideous, but much better than that hideous green. Sorry, don't know where to buy one.
HitokiriNate85
Member
If it was wireless I'd buy one in a second. Honestly seems perfect for D3. I think the 12 buttons on the Naga looks like overkill.
Revengeance
Member
I love my Deathadder more than words can express. I think that it was made specifically for me (claw grip best grip). I've had it for more than a year and a half and I've never had any problems. Highly recommend.
Basically, go to Best Buy or whatever and try them until you get one that fits you well.
Basically, go to Best Buy or whatever and try them until you get one that fits you well.
I love my Mamba, but the build quality is certainly lacking compared to my MX518.
I'm not sure what my next mouse will be. The G400 with the newest sensor/firmware (with no angle snapping) is what I'm leaning towards. I would have went back to my trusty old MX518, but I can't get passed the angle snapping anymore. It feels terrible compared to my Mamba.
The Steelseries Xai is another option. I would consider the DeathAdder Black Edition, but it doesn't seem to have any sensitivity buttons.
I'm not sure what my next mouse will be. The G400 with the newest sensor/firmware (with no angle snapping) is what I'm leaning towards. I would have went back to my trusty old MX518, but I can't get passed the angle snapping anymore. It feels terrible compared to my Mamba.
The Steelseries Xai is another option. I would consider the DeathAdder Black Edition, but it doesn't seem to have any sensitivity buttons.
sorijealut
Member
I have both MX518/ G400. I feel like the palm grip makes it a bit sluggish for fast clicking games... claw grip mice are much better suited for games like SC2/dota
thetrin
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This seems like a nice middle ground. Not too many buttons on the side, 14 to me seems like overkill. Also they are arranged in a way I think my thumb can easily understand and locat. Anyone use this?
My experience with Razer has been pretty awful. Their terrible tech support coupled with dubious build quality has kept me away. You might have a different experience, but I've had too many Razer mice brick on me to take a chance with them anymore.
I would advise against the Deathadder, only because I had 3 of them die on me in the period of a year and a half.
I'm using a Logitech mouse now, and it's far far better.
oktarb
Member
I think your hand has alien magnets implanted within. You should get that checked out.
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