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Damn iPhone. My edit didn't work in time.
I just did a background check on you and your first post on GAF was
And don't act like I made that up!
That'd be nice, but it's about as likely as me renouncing my love for Nintendo and becoming a "dudebro" gamer that plays nothing but CoD.
Portugeezer
Member
I agree, people already do it in comparisons between most PC and console multiplatform games, you certainly wouldn't say there is 10x more detail in PC games, and PC is 10x more powerful according to Carmack.
thanks. how much was the original xbox360 consumes in terms of power, is it similar?? will there be heat problems?
GameplayWhore
Member
And we need Nintendo to port the concept of "an operating knob" to the DRC so we can play "Kaboom!" the way it was meant to be played.
I'm choosing to define that term as I see fit; I haven't actually looked into the patent
Whaaaa..?
Bread's gonna be the death of me!
If I said that, it must've been in jest while I was intoxicated..
No need for a thread imo.........
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I knew it.
I always felt that there was no need for 2 sticks on the 3DS.
The extra stick was the price Nintendo had to pay to get the two Monster Hunters on their system. Nothing more.
test_account
XP-39C²
From a adverticement point of view, there were actually a lot more focus on hardware power before. Some quick examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmhtW-pdfd8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU3ZjJ-XWxo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP04XzC-GkA
But it's a 3DS analog stick patent...
All based on pure speculation and a few people/websites who have inside sources.
Otherwise we have no official facts.
Although Miyamoto/Iwata have both said that Wii U won't be participating in the power games.
Agent Ironside
Member
this is neogaf dude.gif
GameplayWhore
Member
Some of us are left-handed. Symmetric controls are a really nice way of mitigating this. Frankly, I think the system should be able to hard-toggle every game so that the left- and right- side controls are swapped based on user preference.
Mr. MondayNight
Member
Only if I can be a member I love the French.......
fries at McDonald's
Techies, how do these rumored Taito Type X3 specs compare to the rumored Wii U specs?
CPU: Intel Core i5 2400 (3.1Ghz)
Chipset: Intel Q67 Express
Gfx: AMD Radeon HD 6770
RAM: 2GB DDR3
HDD: 160GB SATA 3.0 (2.5")
Sound: 7.1 HD Audio
PSU: 600W
OS: Windows Standard 7 Embedded 64bit / Windows XP Embedded SP3 32bit
CPU: Intel Core i5 2400 (3.1Ghz)
Chipset: Intel Q67 Express
Gfx: AMD Radeon HD 6770
RAM: 2GB DDR3
HDD: 160GB SATA 3.0 (2.5")
Sound: 7.1 HD Audio
PSU: 600W
OS: Windows Standard 7 Embedded 64bit / Windows XP Embedded SP3 32bit
GameplayWhore
Member
The entire console used something between 180W and 200W, I think.
edit:
http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-356-2.htm
176.54W average power draw during intensive games.
edit²: note that this is for the total system, which feeds the gpu, cpu, hard drive and optical drive, among other things.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I'm a leftie too, but I'm a bit weird because I use my right hand for lots of other things - like controlling my PC mouse, for example.
Portugeezer
Member
All I know is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlQkGZvWFis
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Lf4uVuE50&t=15s
Wii U on par with 360, confirmed.
We're going to get a lot of comical comparing going-on in the coming years. Anyone claiming that the visuals of the U's better titles are "blown out of the water" will be talking out of their rear-end. Will the U be outdone? No doubt. But I don't think it'll be as dramatic as most expect.
Which is why I really don't understand the gnashing of teeth in here. Things are going to be fine -especially after the games start flowing.
Y'know what's really gonna kill some folks around here, come E3? Nintendo's bringing a new console.. and they have to wait at least another full year, haha..
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
I agree. Diminishing returns?
I think it's a defense mechanism because people don't want to get hurt if things turn out disappointing.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
That's alright, Retro Studios will be.
Ugh.
For the billionth time, Iwata was saying that not all games need high-end graphics. It had nothing to do with hardware at all.
Shadow Hog
Member
I can't see them doing this when they already said 2012.
yes true..
regarding Miyamoto/Iwata discussion was referring to new game experiences but they are not focusing on graphics as the main selling point.
test_account
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Not really in those cases (unless your being sarcastic), but it just shows that the focus on hardware power isnt anything new (father_brain already posted one example that is even older than the commercial i posted).
Oh.. I meant "they" as in the other consoles..
Portugeezer
Member
We know their games will look great, they usually do.
AceBandage
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Because people get way to emotionally invested.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Yep. I believe they specifically mentioned the graphics of Rhythm Heaven as an example.
Only if you invite us at New Orleans to a Chuck E Cheese... ehhh, a typical restaurant
wat ><
I wasn't aware that porks were of the trouble maker kind
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On another matter, it will be interesting to follow the in-process implementation of the Mario Kart 3DS patch, to anticipate what we'll have in this department on Wii U.
Obviously, they need to ditch the one or two unnecessary windows that display 0$ prices and consider patchs as such and not eShop downloadable content.
WTF, this shit is badass. It's basically what I expect(ed?) from the Wii U when we began speculation on it last year. Of course with more relevant to Nintendo parts and customized designs (Power7 Derivative Tri-Core CPU; 32MB EDRAM; no hard drive).
jump_button
Banned
its just something to speculate on :b why we have a Wii U Speculation thread
yes u r rite, focus on hardware power and exaggeration is there for all the generations. and somehow nintendo is not very good at it
Agent Unknown
Member
Used to love those commercials, especially the Game Gear/dead squirrel ad. '90s Sega ads were the best.
Agent Unknown said:
Shadow Hog
Member
Oooooh. That explains everything.
Still, I kind of expect them to just be smug and flippant about it, touting how when MS and Sony do reveal the next generation, we're all going to be utterly blown away by it and will look quite the fools for supporting poor, kiddy, backward-thinking Nintendo for another generation. Y'know, kind of like how some people already are acting. (Can't say as I really care, since I'm likely to end up with at least one of the other two consoles in addition to a Wii U, knowing my family...)
Apophis2036
Banned
It's very easy to get caught up in the hardware speculation, the giga and tera FLOP rumours, will it run games at 720p or 1080p, 30 FPS or 60 FPS, will it have big third party support, UE 4 / Cry Engine 3 support ect (as i have been in this very thread).
Just think about this number tho... 12 gigaFLOPs..., thats what the Wii GPU was, think about Skyward Sword, Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Donkey Kong Country Returns, NSMB, Smash Bros Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Kart Wii.
Now lets take the lowest possible guess on Wii U GPU... 400 gigaFLOPs !.
If Nintendo can make games as great as those i just mentioned with 12 gigaFLOPs of GPU grunt then just imagine what they can and will do with 400 !, add 1.5 GB's of system Ram and at worst a 360 like CPU and i really don't think we have much to worry about.
Nintendo's first party games are going to blow everyone away.
On top of that you have all the games finally running in HD, a decent OS, a decent online Store and a decent online MP platform, hopefully an Achievement like system and a new innovative tablet controller.
It's easy to get down or burnt out on speculation but hang in there for 3 weeks today it will all be over and i don't think any Nintendo fan will be disappointed !.
Choo Choo, E3 here we come !!!.
Just think about this number tho... 12 gigaFLOPs..., thats what the Wii GPU was, think about Skyward Sword, Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Donkey Kong Country Returns, NSMB, Smash Bros Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Kart Wii.
Now lets take the lowest possible guess on Wii U GPU... 400 gigaFLOPs !.
If Nintendo can make games as great as those i just mentioned with 12 gigaFLOPs of GPU grunt then just imagine what they can and will do with 400 !, add 1.5 GB's of system Ram and at worst a 360 like CPU and i really don't think we have much to worry about.
Nintendo's first party games are going to blow everyone away.
On top of that you have all the games finally running in HD, a decent OS, a decent online Store and a decent online MP platform, hopefully an Achievement like system and a new innovative tablet controller.
It's easy to get down or burnt out on speculation but hang in there for 3 weeks today it will all be over and i don't think any Nintendo fan will be disappointed !.
Choo Choo, E3 here we come !!!
.Grampa Simpson
Banned
The GTA IV DD add-on was far from useless. It was a massive marketing win. As was announcing GTA IV would be available for XBox at E3 that year.
It helped a large number of people who were on the fence make the decision to buy an XBox over waiting for a PS3.
GameplayWhore
Member
Agent Unknown said:
Don't be so angry at yourself!
PS:
#10071: Reggie claims Zelda demo is 1080p
#10250: FIFA 13 confirmed for Wii U
#10301: (aside) interesting flowchart of third party developers
#10317: heaping load of bul I mean, poster from mmo-champion.com suggests Wii U uses quad core processor and Radeon 5850 (~2TFLOPS gpu desktop, 0.8-1.0 TFLOPS mobile model); BurntPork promises to make out with hobo if true (#10319)
#10603: Ben10: Omniverse announced for Wii U
#10250: FIFA 13 confirmed for Wii U
#10301: (aside) interesting flowchart of third party developers
#10317: heaping load of bul I mean, poster from mmo-champion.com suggests Wii U uses quad core processor and Radeon 5850 (~2TFLOPS gpu desktop, 0.8-1.0 TFLOPS mobile model); BurntPork promises to make out with hobo if true (#10319)
#10603: Ben10: Omniverse announced for Wii U
I'd love to see Nintendo do some 1990s-style aggressive advertising about how, "unlike the others" games are and shall always be the central reason for their systems' existence. Especially if one or both of the others decide to go crazy-heavy on non-gaming features.Used to love those commercials, especially the Game Gear/dead squirrel ad. '90s Sega ads were the best.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
This stuff about how many frames per second are gained would mean more if we knew what the fps was before. 5 extra is a lot different depending on if it was 60, 30, 20, or 1 before.IdeaMan said:
I think Van Owen is here to make you feel like your posts have sometimes made us feel, BurntPork.BurntPork said:
This is a bit more all-encompassing then what you're asking I think, but I'd say being a competent successor to what came before. Don't screw up the price, don't arrive late missing features other released machines have, and people won't have a big reason to switch brands. And given all three machines put up big numbers, they all have the chance to pull this off.Plinko said:
Obviously not IdeaMan, but as someone who's read or at least skimmed most of these speculation threads, I think it really comes down to different components seeing different amounts of improvement. Seems like we might have a situation where compared to the Xbox 360 the CPU can do 1-2x as much, GPU is 2-3x as capable plus has newer features, there's 3-4x the RAM, and of course 5x the disc space. Then how obvious this improvement is on TV will also differ based on what's going on with the controller screen.TwilightPrincess said:Thank you for keeping the pessimism in this thread down. But I wonder what your subjective x factor looks like. You surely don´t know everything about the specs. But if you´re telling us "It´s not 1,5x, it shall not be 5x", what is it then? 2x or 4 x? Tell us your ideas about that
I´m staying with 3x, will i be disappointed?
Dude, no. Wii U is not going to compare favorably to GPUs that were sucking power, had 1-2 gigabytes of RAM to themselves, were selling for $400+ in 2010, and still cost multiple hundreds of dollars. I got a mid-range 2010 card and it sounds like Wii U has a fair chance of matching it.Gahiggidy said:
It doesn't list every game, but this Beyond3D thread lists rendering resolutions for a ton of PS360 games. 1280x720 seems most common, though you'll find everything from 1920x1080 to 960x540--and sometimes a little lower per eye for 3D mode.Hiltz said:
Well, it does matter a little. Not all displays do it equally well, so leaving it to the set might look worse or introduce a bit more lag.EatChildren said:
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
test_account
XP-39C²
Well, Nintendo's slogan was "now you're playing with power"
DragonKnight
Member
It's very easy to get caught up in the hardware speculation, the giga and tera FLOP rumours, will it run games at 720p or 1080p, 30 FPS or 60 FPS, will it have big third party support, UE 4 / Cry Engine 3 support ect (as i have been in this very thread).
Just think about this number tho... 12 gigaFLOPs..., thats what the Wii GPU was, think about Skyward Sword, Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Donkey Kong Country Returns, NSMB, Smash Bros Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Kart Wii.
Now lets take the lowest possible guess on Wii U GPU... 400 gigaFLOPs !.
If Nintendo can make games as great as those i just mentioned with 12 gigaFLOPs of GPU grunt then just imagine what they can and will do with 400 !, add 1.5 GB's of system Ram and at worst a 360 like CPU and i really don't think we have much to worry about.
Nintendo's first party games are going to blow everyone away.
On top of that you have all the games finally running in HD, a decent OS, a decent online Store and a decent online MP platform, hopefully an Achievement like system and a new innovative tablet controller.
It's easy to get down or burnt out on speculation but hang in there for 3 weeks today it will all be over and i don't think any Nintendo fan will be disappointed !.
Choo Choo, E3 here we come !!!
Nintendo fans really are one of a kind.
Agent Unknown
Member
Great stuff in there, thanks for the recap!
I'd love to see Nintendo do some 1990s-style aggressive advertising about how, "unlike the others" games are and shall always be the central reason for their systems' existence. Especially if one or both of the others decide to go crazy-heavy on non-gaming features.
I love the Sega Saturn vs "Sony Plaything" (oh snap!) never even seen that one before.
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