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ryutaro's mama
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Mike Tenay and Larry Zbysko are livid.
Inferno313
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Ra's. Ra's.
Also apparently the "correct" way to say it is "Raysh" as the animated series and Arkham City do...
But screw that.
It was great that we essentially got to see a 'batman and robin' working together without it going full costume. Really well done.
Fuck was Bane's first beat down of Bats brutal. Best version of Bane yet, as well. Too bad there were still some voice issues, because he had some great lines.
Hathaway absolutely nailed Catwoman.
Talia reveal was spoiled long ago. Did not see the kid switch coming though.
Caine was great. Emotional Alfred is second only to Snarky Alfred.
Talia death scene was awkward.
Last few minutes were really a nice way to tie it up.
Fuck was Bane's first beat down of Bats brutal. Best version of Bane yet, as well. Too bad there were still some voice issues, because he had some great lines.
Hathaway absolutely nailed Catwoman.
Talia reveal was spoiled long ago. Did not see the kid switch coming though.
Caine was great. Emotional Alfred is second only to Snarky Alfred.
Talia death scene was awkward.
Last few minutes were really a nice way to tie it up.
Ninja Scooter
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oh and by the way, I found the equivalent of the "weird face dude during Dent's speech" in this movie. When the prisoners are cheering on Bruce as he climbs out of the prison, one of the dude's in front with long hair and a goatee is having the time of his life.
ViewtifulJC
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Mr. RAZ AL GHOUL
Yeah, I've seen him mentioned a few times. He was living his life vicariously through Bruce's triumphs.
Yeah, I've seen him mentioned a few times. He was living his life vicariously through Bruce's triumphs.
LOL. I noticed that dude too. Was realllllly out of place.
Inferno313
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TDKR >= TDK > BB. As of right now. I think TDKR is a more flawed film than TDK, but it hits much higher highs and I think I like it more on a personal level.
demosthenes
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At the end when they showed Alfred I thought he was going to pull an inception on us and not show Bruce. But have Alfred give a look that didn't give it away.
-Pyromaniac-
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actually it is Ra's, technically speaking, not Raysh.
ThatCrazyGuy
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I like how Batman has no more cartilage in his knees.
ryutaro's mama
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Konex is wrong about everything.
Inferno313
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Ah, it is? Ok. Someone tried to tell me that the Animated series was correct.
My heart is now at ease.
Sounds about right.
That was my initial diagnosis. From a pure plotting/editing perspective, its kind of a mess. But then it hits these moments of sublime character moments and scenes and Im just floored.
DICKS AHOY
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TDK>TDKR>>>BB
Maybe I should rewatch Begins since Rises ties so heavily into it but I seriously don't remember it being as good as the latter two films. Still great, especially coming off of fucking Batman & Robin and every atrocious non-Spidey Marvel/Catwoman movie coming out, but Nolan got more into groove of making big action blockbusters with TDK onwards.
Maybe I should rewatch Begins since Rises ties so heavily into it but I seriously don't remember it being as good as the latter two films. Still great, especially coming off of fucking Batman & Robin and every atrocious non-Spidey Marvel/Catwoman movie coming out, but Nolan got more into groove of making big action blockbusters with TDK onwards.
Fuck, now I'm going to be looking for him when I see the movie again.
I was somewhat surprised at Alfred's subtlety in that scene.. his reaction at seeing Bruce was either:
1. His mental manifestation of his vision
2. He was in on it at some time between the grave scene and the end.
-Pyromaniac-
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well the creators of the name maybe wanted it to be pronounced Raysh, but if the name is indeed based off the arabic language, then it should be Ra's.
TAS is canon in all things. I refuse to accept this lie.
I kind of wish this is how it happened now.
-Pyromaniac-
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I did say "technically"!
brucewaynegretzky
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We need to hand Batman over to screenwriter who writes thrillers/mysteries. Part of me says let Moffat have a run at it. He's done Sherlock pretty well so he at least gets how to write an intelligent character....
Whatchu talkin bout? Alfred smiles and nods in Bruce's direction, and Bruce smiles and nods back. There's no ambiguity about it brah.
EDIT: Half the theme of the movie is Bruce finding the desire to live again after what happened in the second movie. He got his fresh start, and saved the city. If it was the a daydream on Alfred's part the ending wouldn't make any sense.
ryutaro's mama
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I can see what you mean.
I can't co-sign on this but it is the best 3rd movie in in any trilogy ever and this would be the most rock solid trilogy I have ever seen if not for Tom Cruise.
Beast Legacy
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Someone earlier said it best. Rises is a sequel to Begins. TDK is a standalone story.
Secret Fawful
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That would have driven me crazy...in a good way.
BuddyJoeHooker
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Anybody else have a sound problem in the film, the soundtrack covering up some of the dialogue?
Actually TAS was what always made me believe that Bruce could find happiness and put aside this life.
It was kind of the point of Mask of the Phantasm, that he had a chance for happiness but it was taken away from him again
Then there was the TNBA episode where he literally hangs up Batman so that he can marry the love of his life.. who ends up being a poison ivy construct.
-Pyromaniac-
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lol....hilarious. Ending was perfect indeed. I was genuinely sad when it was over. I had to use my imagination and let it run wild to continue it in my head. Just not the same
JGL being in the movie never bothered me up until the reveal that he was the successor to the cowl. I enjoyed him in the movie and thought his role would play differently. People made jokes about him being Robin was because it was absurd and I still think that. I was wondering why he was getting so much screen time and his character conclusion just left a bitter taste for me. This is coming for a guy who has a mancrush on him just like the rest of Gaf. Ultimately I thought his role in the movie was to be an influence to Bruce Wayne that you didn't need a mask to save others.
Do you think your feelings will change over the next few months? Will the impact of those emotional character moments lose their effect when weighed against the flaws? We're still basking in the glow of the experience. I think that tends to color my perception. That, and the thought that this is it, it's the last hoorah.
Hahah i saw that too. I know exactly who you are talking about.
BurnOutBrighter
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Sunhi giffed me:
Excellent. My reaction too.
demosthenes
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Haha, sorry. It's just the second I saw him in the same exact setting I thought to myself of the Inception ending. I didn't think he would just outright show it. I'm not sure which I would have liked better. I know I like how they did it but I think I would have liked it for other reasons to leave it up in the air.
After burying him and fully accepting that he has died? I doubt the restaurant scene was the first reunion since their parting at Wayne manor - Bruce must have told Alfred after that point sometime that he was leaving Gotham, at the very least.
Beast Legacy
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As a mostly Marvel reader TAS is the one thing I'm super jealous of as a fan. I'd trade a million Marvel movieverses if it meant we got an animated saga that lasted as long and had as much quality as the whole DCAU.
-Pyromaniac-
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it gave a sense that stuff actually happened in those 8 years, and that they talk to each other about things and that most importantly, Alfred cares so much about bruce the dude probably did mad research on the subject lol. Also gives the sense that Alfred does other things than bring bruce food and do his bed and give wise advice.
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