Really though? Reaaaaaaaly?
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Really though? Reaaaaaaaly?
Not to mention, you can uninstall the apps you don't want.
This is my current Metro screen. It's nothing but pinned desktop applications that I frequently use. The only Metro apps I have are some of the few live tiles and the stores, just so I can check up on them out of curiosities' sake.
Large, but it's not that terribly different once you get used to the start menu being fullscreen.
alexandros
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It's not selective quoting. Probably selective reading though. Juken wondered if it is a valid concern that MS would discontinue the desktop in the future and I quoted a known proponent of Windows 8 and Microsoft in general saying the same thing.
Wiktor
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Destkop is faster and snappier than in W7, plus some games will be W8 only. Definitely no need to upgrade from W7, but some nice bonuses for doing so.
Not even Vista-exclussive DX10 and Halo 2 as baits made gamers jump in.
Wiktor
Member
Backwards compatibility is Windows' greatest strenghts. Microsoft killing it will effectively kill the greatest advantage the company has and remove the biggest reason people stick with it. It would be essentially giving up the whole market and letting Apple and Google run it.
That said, this is PC, even if MS would be dumb enough to try it people will just stick to Win7 and 8. And sooner or later somebody would develop open source alternative that's completely compatibile with Windows, which would quickly cause complete collapse of Windows sales.
Bassicaly, it's just not going to happen.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
in b4 people claiming Gabe Newell was right.
You're too late.
Wiktor
Member
Funny thing is though, everything bad about Windows 8 could be said about Steam too.
Well to be honest at least Steam is multi-platform so the walled garden argument isn't as valid for Steam as it is for Windows 8 and as I understood that is one of Gabe's points against Windows 8. Also Steam doesn't restrict anyone from making games and selling them outside Steam. Microsoft only allows Metro-style apps to be sold in the Windows App store.
Wiktor
Member
You can still use desktop apps though. And it's not like you can use Steamworks-based games outside Steam either.
Apparently not.
Haha, thanks to this thread, I finally decided to try out the RC for Windows 8.
I'll post my opinion after actually checking out the OS.
You're better to post that kind of rational in the OT section. Gabe said it was bad, do not expect proper dialogue here
; )
http://www.windows8core.com/windows...with-gamepads-also-using-special-key-mapping/
You need an app to do it which is silly, but technically can be done
What???
There is only one app you can't uninstall: The store. Everything else is uninstallable, the messaging app, the contacts app, the games app, hell, even Internet Explorer is uninstallable.
That sucks...
Would been perfect as simulating a console interface. Just start the PC get directly to metro with a SSD hdd, and after that select the new steam interface that is coming next month.
Maastricht
Member
I for one welcome Windows 8 
Will probably buy a new PC sometime soon, before it hits, and then upgrade and add an SSD to the system later, when I'm hearing everything is stable enough.
Will probably buy a new PC sometime soon, before it hits, and then upgrade and add an SSD to the system later, when I'm hearing everything is stable enough.Stop that inane, condescending argument, like every negative opinion from a gamer is because Gabe or someone else dislikes the OS.
This is true more or less, but it's even worse when the same entity controls both the OS and distribution. See: consoles.
Winnie the Pimp
Member
Eh, for me, Windows 7 is the best Windows i have ever used... granted i don't do much besides gaming and browsing but for that, it's been awesome and i see no reason what soever to upgrade at this point!
plagiarize
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i haven't tried it in on windows 8 to see what happens, but you might still be able to modify windows to use Steam as the shell rather than explorer.
http://www.windows7library.com/blog/tweaks/changing-the-default-windows-shell-in-windows-7/
it might still go to the metro interface first though, like i say, i haven't tried it.
I never understood posts like these.
If anything Windows 9 will be even less desktop focused. Why do some poeple assume that Windows 9 will be Windows 7 with a new coat of paint when Windows 8 exists?
Like or not but MS has made their philosophy going forward very clear on this matter.
People seem to discuss the actual OS benefits for gamers.
Exactly. It completely overlooks those people who dislike it from a perfectly valid position of fundamental ignorance.
michaelius
Banned
Can you provide me a single argument why not ?
alexandros
Banned
I don't see how, would you mind elaborating a bit on that? The way I see it, there are two main complaints against Windows 8 at this time:
- Microsoft is forcing Metro on both desktop and touch devices
- You can only buy Metro Apps from the Windows App Store.
Now, as for Steam:
- Big Picture Mode is a toggle, you can enable it or disable it at will
- You can buy Steamworks games from many sources, including competitors of Valve (Amazon, Greenman, Origin etc) and retail
So I don't quite understand your point at the moment.
No it can't. There are no hardware devices where the only games you can run are from the Steam store. Steam doesn't limit games/applications the way the Windows store does. Steam isn't from Microsoft which has had a terrible track record. The two aren't even remotely comparable except in the most trivial sense as digital storefronts.
Krauser Kat
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I use my pc on a 50" plasma about 98% percent of the time from more than 6 feet away. I cant wait for this shit. Couch browsing and launching games is going to be awesome.
Aren't they expected to do just that in the near future? And you can run whatever software you like on Windows 8. You're talking about Windows RT, Microsoft's iOS competitor.
No, it just limits them in a different way.
Hmm.
Haunted
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I Stalk Alone
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Shit the thing isn't even out yet for it to perform at already at 100% in most cases it is a good upgrade for those who have not moved to windows 7 yet. which is more than 50% of all pc users.
If a user hasn't moved to 7, I don't see any valid reason to move to 8.
Wow.
Haunted
Member
Well, yeah. But Vista was so shit at the beginning and it got such a bad rep to battle against throughout its lifetime... 8 might have gotten some bad press, but nothing of that sort.
That said, I don't see a substantial amount of people upgrading immediately. Maybe when one or two service packs have dropped... I dunno.
Why not move to 7 instead?
As of now, I see the skip one -> buy one adage holding up. 98 ->
alexandros
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Microsoft does have a terrible track record when it comes to PC gaming in the last years.
I Stalk Alone
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direct x 11 or 12. I still use xp as I still play mostly dx9 games but since there are now a good amount of dx11 games that I can get cheap I decided to try the windows 8 preview and was surprised how easy it was to use.
I Stalk Alone
Member
its $30 for an update from 7. I already tried 7 and the extras are worth it why bother with 7 when it is exactly the same as 7 plus all the extras which I can customise.
[Clark Gable]
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I heard that Windows 8 was an attempt by Microsoft to actually dumb down the desktop for people who aren't tech savvy. No idea if there is any truth in that, but Windows 8 is complete shit (interface). If I wanted five second boot times I would install Fedora or Gentoo. It's unnecessary, I have a SSD Win7 is already lightening fast. There is absolutely zero reason to upgrade past Windows 7 as of right now.
plagiarize
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i think the $30 price also covers upgrades from XP and Vista. so for someone that doesn't yet have 7 who is thinking about upgrading, 8 seems a bit of a no brainer for the price.
CosmicQueso
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Why do I get the sense that there's just a lot of weird defensiveness about either not wanting to upgrade or being willing to?
You got all kinds of people: Innovators, Early Adopters, Early Majority, Late Majority and Laggards (thanks, Geoffrey Moore). And each of these comments bashing 8 or liking 8 just throws that person in one of those buckets. Which are all fine to be in.
Just so strange to watch all the emotion. Ahhh the internet.
You got all kinds of people: Innovators, Early Adopters, Early Majority, Late Majority and Laggards (thanks, Geoffrey Moore). And each of these comments bashing 8 or liking 8 just throws that person in one of those buckets. Which are all fine to be in.
Just so strange to watch all the emotion. Ahhh the internet.
plagiarize
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i didn't go to vista until SP1. i got Windows 7 pretty much right away, and I will get Windows 8 right away. because vista wasn't ready at launch, and 7 and 8 were.
i'm not sure what bucket that puts me in. i only adopt early when i've seen an incredibly stable early release that i've had running on a test bench for months.
This will neither spur me nor prevent me from upgrading to Windows 8.
The Microsoft Surface Pro tablet will be my first foray into Win 8 - if I like it, I'll build a new W8 machine to complement it.
From what I've skimmed in this thread, it's mostly full of whiney fucks that just can't deal with change of any decent magnitude. Or maybe that's just the first page.
*shrug*
The Microsoft Surface Pro tablet will be my first foray into Win 8 - if I like it, I'll build a new W8 machine to complement it.
From what I've skimmed in this thread, it's mostly full of whiney fucks that just can't deal with change of any decent magnitude. Or maybe that's just the first page.
*shrug*
thiscoldblack
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Guaranteed most of the "I'm skipping 8" posters will upgrade in less than a year or two.