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Apple's September 12 Event | It's almost here.

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noah111

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The new iPhone 5 form factor is 16:9 if you haven't noticed. 3:2 is the past. Extending that to 4.5" 1280x720 should not be too wide.
For some reason I read your previous post as 1080x720 so I figured you were talking about 3:2. 16:9 4.5" makes me want to barf.
 
they really gotta bring something special out of their ass to drag the happy owners of galaxy s iii's back to an iphone.

because i know for sure i am never going back to apple.

Cool story bro. You managed to contradict yourself so blatantly in only a few words. You claim they need to pull something special to convince GS3 owners like you (not exactly the niche Apple is aiming for) then state in no uncertain terms that you will 'never' go back to Apple, making it clear you don't actually have an open-mind like you're pretending to, and will hate whatever they show no matter what. Troll much? Did Apple rape your dog? In short, nobody cares. Apple will end up selling a couple hundred million of these phones, and clearly whatever the hell it is that offends you so much about them and their products isn't shared by most people.
 

cnizzle06

Banned
Cool story bro. You managed to contradict yourself so blatantly in only a few words. You claim they need to pull something special to convince GS3 owners (not exactly the niche Apple is aiming for) then state you will 'never' go back to Apple, making it clear you don't actually have an open-mind like you're pretending to, and will hate whatever they show no matter what. Troll much? Did Apple rape your dog?
From not a single line of his post did I infer that Apple raped his dog.

Maybe you need to chill out.
 
From not a single line of his post did I infer that Apple raped his dog.

Maybe you need to chill out.

I'm completely chilled. Read his post again. Did his post make any sense? Did he not contradict himself? Was it not a troll? Was it not full of irrational hate? He specifically came into this thread to state that he will 'never buy an Apple product again'. I was calling him out for what his post was- a childish troll. Pardon me if I'd prefer this thread not devolve into APPLE SUX LOL bullshit which was his post in a nutshell.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
After some googling, from now until Wednesday I'm praying that the iPhone 5 will support what is apparently certain AWS frequencies to allow Wind Mobile to get the phone.

Apparently some dude at T-Mobile said that it's possible with the chipset he's seen for the phone, but whether Apple will make it happen or not is up in the air. There's way too much I don't understand or know about the complexities of networks and whatnot, but I certainly hope that the Wind network could support the iPhone if it happened.
 

celebi23

Member
Well, I've had a Droid 2 since it came out and I'm due for an upgrade :D Looks like I'll finally be switching to an iPhone :D
 
After some googling, from now until Wednesday I'm praying that the iPhone 5 will support what is apparently certain AWS frequencies to allow Wind Mobile to get the phone.

Apparently some dude at T-Mobile said that it's possible with the chipset he's seen for the phone, but whether Apple will make it happen or not is up in the air. There's way too much I don't understand or know about the complexities of networks and whatnot, but I certainly hope that the Wind network could support the iPhone if it happened.
Now THAT would make me upgrade my 4S. Sad but true. Although you can't use 4G on that network can you?

I don't think AWS is going to happen though. If WIND or Mobilicity kept their current pricing plans enabled for the iPhone 5 it would cause the network to explode due to everyone moving over to them. I somehow can't see the big 3 of Telus, Rogers, or Bell having good things to say about that either. I don't know what, if anything, they could do about it, but they run shit in this country so I'm sure they'd find someway to stop WIND and Mobilicity from stealing a massive portion of their business.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Now THAT would make me upgrade my 4S. Sad but true. Although you can't use 4G on that network can you?

I don't think AWS is going to happen though. If WIND or Mobilicity kept their current pricing plans enabled for the iPhone 5 it would cause the network to explode due to everyone moving over to them. I somehow can't see the big 3 of Telus, Rogers, or Bell having good things to say about that either. I don't know what, if anything, they could do about it, but they run shit in this country so I'm sure they'd find someway to stop WIND and Mobilicity from stealing a massive portion of their business.
Yeah, this is true. They're already doing whatever they can to try to fuck up all the upstarts, and yeah the networks would probably explode but rapid expansion would follow. I'd be willing to take a small hit to support those companies that don't try to actively fuck over everyone with their pricing.
 
Talking about new iPods and rainbows, I really wish they'd bring these back.

ipod-nano-5g-various-colors.jpg


I bought one for a family member and it was pretty awesome. I'm always tempted to buy one for myself whenever I see them around.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
I'm selling my 4S (16GB, unlocked, mint condition, yadda yadda). In Canada, they're 649+13% tax new. Is selling for 500 flat unreasonable? I figure when they announce the 5, the 4S will drop to 549+tax so they'll be saving 100+ versus buying new.
 

noah111

Still Alive
Talking about new iPods and rainbows, I really wish they'd bring these back.

ipod-nano-5g-various-colors.jpg


I bought one for a family member and it was pretty awesome. I'm always tempted to buy one for myself whenever I see them around.
Looks like they may actually be introducing an iPod mini line. Basically that form factor, but with a larger full-on touch screen and a home button. Looks like they'd be going backwards imo (case leaks from today);

ipodcasenew1.jpg


ipodcasenew2.jpg


Worth noting that MacRumors was forced to take these shots down from their site (and they did). If this is what these things really look like, it's basically an ugly mini-Lumia;

ipod_nano_oblong_rendering.jpg


But we'll have to wait and see.
 
Looks like they may actually be introducing an iPod mini line. Basically that form factor, but with a larger full-on touch screen and a home button. Looks like they'd be going backwards imo (case leaks from today);

http://iphone-developers.com/images/uploads/ipodcasenew1.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://iphone-developers.com/images/uploads/ipodcasenew2.jpg[IMG]

Worth noting that MacRumors was forced to take these shots down from their site (and they did). If this is what these things really look like, it's basically an ugly mini-Lumia;

[IMG]http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/07/ipod_nano_oblong_rendering.jpg[IMG]

But we'll have to wait and see.[/QUOTE]Wow, that... doesn't look that great. Hope I'm proved wrong.
 
I'm selling my 4S (16GB, unlocked, mint condition, yadda yadda). In Canada, they're 649+13% tax new. Is selling for 500 flat unreasonable? I figure when they announce the 5, the 4S will drop to 549+tax so they'll be saving 100+ versus buying new.
I don't know about price but let us know if you do get rid of it for how much it went for. I have the same phone as you and bought mine unlocked from the Canadian store. I think I remember you buying it on launch day (night) as well. :)

I was planning on selling mine before the new iPhone announcement to maximize profits but I really don't know what this iPhone 5 is all about so I'll sacrifice a few bucks and wait till after we all see the phone in a few days.

I'm sure you could get more than $500 though. As you said, the phone is $733 unlocked tax in. Perfect condition and under a year old. Start at $550 maybe? Always easy to go lower than higher.

I dread selling mine on Craigslist. I've had good experiences in the end with the chosen buyer for the handful of things I've sold on there, but the worst part is actually getting to that point and finding a serious buyer. Electronics are instant magnets to scammers and lowballers. Really attract the scum of the universe.

My Craigslist account is connected to an email address I only created for the sole purpose of using Craigslist. Love leading some of these scammers on and then telling them to fuck off when they think they've got me.
 

ChanHuk

Banned
I'm selling my 4S (16GB, unlocked, mint condition, yadda yadda). In Canada, they're 649+13% tax new. Is selling for 500 flat unreasonable? I figure when they announce the 5, the 4S will drop to 549+tax so they'll be saving 100+ versus buying new.

It's reasonable, factory unlocked phones go for a lot more. I sold my 64GB 4S for $440 but it was in rough shape. This was one of those serious buyers that spent 20 minutes thoroughly examining my phone.

Been using my Lumia 900 and WP is not without its charm. It's just the apps market like a desert wasteland. I do miss my 4S. iOS > WP > Android
 

ChanHuk

Banned
I wonder how my grandfathered "unlimited data" plan from AT&T will be affected by these new phones?

I mean, I've never really checked my usages but I'm constantly, constantly using data. I use Spotify almost exclusively for my music, I use Facebook Twitter & Instagram throughout the day, constantly browsing the web, etc - but I've never gotten any notice or reduction or cap put on my data.

If the new iPhone has 4G, do I HAVE to use it? Or can I just keep truckin' with 3G and my classic plan?

The 4S is "4G", I used casually switched between my Lumia 900 (LTE) and my old 4S. You will need a new SIM card if you want to use LTE.
 

Tobor

Member
Looks like they may actually be introducing an iPod mini line. Basically that form factor, but with a larger full-on touch screen and a home button. Looks like they'd be going backwards imo (case leaks from today);

MG]http://iphone-developers.com/images/uploads/ipodcasenew1.jpg[/IMG]

IMG]http://iphone-developers.com/images/uploads/ipodcasenew2.jpg[/IMG]

Worth noting that MacRumors was forced to take these shots down from their site (and they did). If this is what these things really look like, it's basically an ugly mini-Lumia;

IMG]http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/07/ipod_nano_oblong_rendering.jpg[/IMG]

But we'll have to wait and see.

You mean a mini iPod touch. Man, you really hate everything these days.
 

DarkFlow

Banned
What's the point of LTE anyway? It's not like you get more than a few mbits on either 3 or 4G right?
Well LTE can be rather fast if the network is not clogged. I've seen speeds upwards of 50 mps, that's faster then my home cable. The problem is they give you such a small Cap that you can literally blow it all in a hour if you tried hard enough.
 

Tobor

Member
What's the point of LTE anyway? It's not like you get more than a few mbits on either 3 or 4G right?

Where did you get that from? I have LTE on my iPad, it's routinely in the 30Mbps range, as fast as a home connection.
 

Blackhead

Redarse
I'm selling my 4S (16GB, unlocked, mint condition, yadda yadda). In Canada, they're 649+13% tax new. Is selling for 500 flat unreasonable? I figure when they announce the 5, the 4S will drop to 549+tax so they'll be saving 100+ versus buying new.
The 4S will de to 549+tax and will likely be 8GB. But it'll be brand new in box, 1 year warranty and Apple might give it a slight bump in specs they did the iPad 2.

What you think is fair is only one half of the equation — what the market will bear matters just as much. Check Craigslist/Kijiji for who sellers are asking then check eBay's completed listings for what buyers are paying, then ask for something in between. I'll say $450 for 16GB unlocked so it sells quickly before the market is flooded
 

noah111

Still Alive
You mean a mini iPod touch. Man, you really hate everything these days.
That's not what the case makers are advertising it as. :p But if you mean that in reply to my mini-Lumia comment, it really does look like a Lumia's design (the screen bit, anyway). That form and shape is nothing like an iPod touch.

It may up looking gorgeous, but right now that shape comes across as outdated (like I said before, '08 feel). Literally looks an iPod Mini and an iPod Nano with a touch screen slapped on;

imgApple%20iPod%20mini1.jpg
compareipods.jpg


139329-4gb-ipod-nano-angles.jpg
ipod-nano-2nd-gen.jpg


Not to mention the old iPhone prototypes from '07;

iphonemockup.jpg


Seems like a clear step backward from the form factor of these beauties;

apple-ipod-nano-5th-generation-1.jpg


LOL I work for that Puro case maker, Monday I'll ask for news.
Haha what are the odds. I believe they're the ones who requested MacRumors to pull the images, so you could ask about that.
 

Tobor

Member
Looks like a cross between the old nano and the iPod touch to me. /shrugs

I don't get them backing off the watch angle, but it's not ugly.
 
I shipped out my iPhone 4 (16GB) yesterday after selling it for $350, now for the next 2 weeks I just have my old LG bare bones flip phone...it's going to be a long 2 weeks
 

noah111

Still Alive
I don't get them backing off the watch angle, but it's not ugly.
Perhaps not ugly, but outdated looking. :p

And yeah, that really doesn't make sense to me. That is a clear iOS device, why ditch it? The old iPod Nanos I understand, because they're running the legacy iPod ui, but there's no reason to ditch the watch Nano.

They really should just call it an iPod Mini, as that's exactly what it is. The iPod Nano name suits the watch design more so than any other Nano before, stupid move if it's dropped.
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
Perhaps not ugly, but outdated looking. :p

And yeah, that really doesn't make sense to me. That is a clear iOS device, why ditch it? The old iPod Nanos I understand, because they're running the legacy iPod ui, but there's no reason to ditch the watch Nano.

They really should just call it an iPod Mini, as that's exactly what it is. The iPod Nano name suits the watch design more so than any other Nano before, stupid move if it's dropped.

I agree, it's only someone's render but it would be a strange move. They got a lot of mileage from the watch style, and could probably do it better now as well.

Those look dated, and it's just not striking enough for the Nano range. Then again I'm not a fan of what we've seen of the iPhone 5 yet either. So unless Apple come up with some great porn shots of everything maybe the theme of everything is going to be 'a bit ugly'.

Apple do have their off years - iPod 3rd gen, the fat Nano ...
 

noah111

Still Alive
I agree, it's only someone's render but it would be a strange move. They got a lot of mileage from the watch style, and could probably do it better now as well.

Those look dated, and it's just not striking enough for the Nano range. Then again I'm not a fan of what we've seen of the iPhone 5 yet either. So unless Apple come up with some great porn shots of everything maybe the theme of everything is going to be 'a bit ugly'.

Apple do have their off years - iPod 3rd gen, the fat Nano ...
Speaking of which, the Nano line has always come across as the weakest to me for this very reason.

When they drastically change the design and then back within a years time, it gives you the sense they don't really care, don't know what they're doing, or are willing to experiment more with that line than others.

Then again that is beneficial as we get a clearer gauge of what works and what doesn't. Still, the watch works, so I don't get why they would replace it even if this new mini-iTouch works/sells just as well.
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
Speaking of which, the Nano line has always come across as the weakest to me for this very reason.

When they drastically change the design and then back within a years time, it gives you the sense they don't really care, don't know what they're doing, or are willing to experiment more with that line than others.

Then again that is beneficial as we get a clearer gauge of what works and what doesn't. Still, the watch works, so I don't get why they would replace it even if this new mini-iTouch works/sells just as well.

I think with the Nano from the unveiling onwards they see it as more a fashion item. So has to keep changing, even if that results in some right blunders. Everything else with Apple sticks with iconic designs, just refreshing and updating them.

The watch style seemed almost accidental really. iTouch Mini seems a bit pointless, unless the Shuffle is going to be upgraded into the watch as that is almost completely redundant these days.
 

Zeth

Member
I have until oct 1 to send my 4S (16gb) to Gazelle, I have the box sitting here. They'll give me 280 but I'm tempted to get an easy extra $100 if it's that easy to sell.

Edit: if 350 is a reasonable selling price I'll probably just gazelle it
 
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