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Halo |OT9| One Final Effort Is All That Remains

nillapuddin

Member
In a 1v1? Sure

In a match where the enemy team has 5 players? Seems unlikely you'll survive that. Unless the team is made of idiots.

(bolded)
exactly.


seriously though, your telling me that in MM you never only kill the driver of the Wraith and/or Scorpion?

That given scenario is something I do often in Halo, I rarely ever destroy the whole thing

edit:
the difference between the number of melee's to kill a driver, and blow up a scorpion is very slim
with a little conservation you could easily kill the driver and take it for yourself in many situations
(in my experiences)
 

feel

Member
God, I "can't wait" to see some of the posts in the Halo 4 review thread.
I love how this resurfaces here right before every new Halo comes out. Really kicks up the hype haha.

I REALLY WANT to be playing this game. Such a huge distance from where my feelings about it were a couple of months back.

Mid mancannon is lower but it still makes you pop up for a bit, decent snipers will still be able to get people in the air Dax, sniping is easier here than in Halo 3. Though I will miss the huge elevation.
 

Beckx

Member
hmm..

I mean not particularly, Id like the Amazon Web skin more than the instantly given away sad camo one, but Im not going to compromise your midnight launch

I can just give you mine, nothing in return

ill have to make sure I havent hinted I would give it to someone else and forgot

i do wanna be spiderman though lol
Ill have to work a deal with somebody

I still haven't decided what I'm doing, though, it's a huge pain to go to the launch. :D

I don't want to compromise your ability to work trade, so let's say if I go Amazon & you haven't already found a deal, we can swap. So in the mean time please don't pass up any other chance to trade for the skin you want. That way I can flake out later. :p
 

nillapuddin

Member
I still haven't decided what I'm doing, though, it's a huge pain to go to the launch. :D

I don't want to compromise your ability to work trade, so let's say if I go Amazon & you haven't already found a deal, we can swap. So in the mean time please don't pass up any other chance to trade for the skin you want. That way I can flake out later. :p

Sounds like a plan my friend, Ill keep you posted as Im sure you will do the same
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Players have more opportunities to spawn with mid-long range weapons in Halo 4. The change in launch angles for the mancannons in Ragnarok is a reflection of this.
That makes sense, but given the impact longer weapon range has con combat as a whole on a map as open as Valhalla, the man cannon was the least of my worries. It is encouraging that it was modified for that reason, though.
 

Vire

Member
Absolutely love the animation of the Spartan climbing into the Mantis.

The way he flips down the top is just brilliant.
 

willow ve

Member
That makes sense, but given the impact longer weapon range has con combat as a whole on a map as open as Valhalla, the man cannon was the least of my worries. It is encouraging that it was modified for that reason, though.

The hitscan capabilities of the modified sandbox is a huge modifier as well (I presume). Before you could get pinged by BR team fire when launching out for laser, but it would be rare to die mid-flight from cross map (base to base) BR fire.

Now with the DMR, Light Rifle, and BR all being hitscan... yeah, that central cannon would be a massacre.
 

CyReN

Member
What happens if 2 mantises stomp at the same time?

cCWZK.gif
 

GhaleonEB

Member
The hitscan capabilities of the modified sandbox is a huge modifier as well (I presume). Before you could get pinged by BR team fire when launching out for laser, but it would be rare to die mid-flight from cross map (base to base) BR fire.

Now with the DMR, Light Rifle, and BR all being hitscan... yeah, that central cannon would be a massacre.

My biggest worry is that players on the hill can now engage players in their base, and vice versa; and also, from one side of the map to the other (as it's not that wide). The BR range and function enabled flanking manuvers on the map that a single-shot hitscan rifle (such as the DMR) would cut off.
 

Ramirez

Member
No stun off the mancannon landing, AND we got confirmation that you can still run up the front of the base, today is a good day.
 

Ramirez

Member
I still think most of you are letting Reach's piss poor BTB cloud your acceptance of Valhalla in 4. Two different games, and Valhalla is such a better map than anything in Reach, believe.
 

TheOddOne

Member
I still think most of you are letting Reach's piss poor BTB cloud your acceptance of Valhalla in 4. Two different games, and Valhalla is such a better map than anything in Reach, believe.
Played it today on Halo 3, if it's the same in Halo 4 then I'm gonna dance a jig.
 

Kibbles

Member
IGN's video is weird. Like CyReN pointed out I think they forgot to turn off resampling and the footage is like a blurry mess. I hope we get some HQ footage soon.
 
I really want to know: the different pre-order exclusives, will they be unlockable over time through XP, or are they ACTUALLY pre-order exclusives? Because the UK is getting some FANCY skins while Gamestop is selling crap.
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Perhaps. I am guessing there is a way to get the occupant out if it though without destroying it, then getting in and taking it for yourself.

The same way you do in the tank. Basically you have to jump on and hit it once and hope the guy gets out (thinking you're going to blow it up) then you can kill him and take it. That's about the only way.
 

BigShow36

Member
My biggest worry is that players on the hill can now engage players in their base, and vice versa; and also, from one side of the map to the other (as it's not that wide). The BR range and function enabled flanking manuvers on the map that a single-shot hitscan rifle (such as the DMR) would cut off.

I much prefer that to being completely hopeless if you don't have the sniper or laser.
 

Karl2177

Member
I really want to know: the different pre-order exclusives, will they be unlockable over time through XP, or are they ACTUALLY pre-order exclusives? Because the UK is getting some FANCY skins while Gamestop is selling crap.
They've hinted at having them available in the somewhat distant future. They have to give the retailers some time for the exclusives.
 

Mayyhem

Member
Ragnarok looks amazing. So many good memories playing Valhalla in Halo 3. I can't wait to experience that map again with this sweet new sandbox in Halo 4
 

senador

Banned
The same way you do in the tank. Basically you have to jump on and hit it once and hope the guy gets out (thinking you're going to blow it up) then you can kill him and take it. That's about the only way.

Gotcha. I also just got to the part in the vid where Kynan says such. Still, we should revisit this subject in 12 hours or so.
 
My biggest worry is that players on the hill can now engage players in their base, and vice versa; and also, from one side of the map to the other (as it's not that wide). The BR range and function enabled flanking manuvers on the map that a single-shot hitscan rifle (such as the DMR) would cut off.

I don't know if this eases your worries about that at all, but I watched some gameplay and it appears that the walls/railing is higher on the bases so that when you're on the second level platform, you can't see the hill unless you jump on top of the actual railing.

Here

Wasn't that guy crouching?

He does, but even upright it looks like you can only see the rock at the top, and maybe a player if they're standing at the apex of the hill.
 

feel

Member
I don't know if this eases your worries about that at all, but I watched some gameplay and it appears that the walls/railing is higher on the bases so that when you're on the second level platform, you can't see the hill unless you jump on top of the actual railing.
Wasn't that guy crouching?
 
Uhhhh. If you Jetpack in your base's mancannon, using proper pulsing couldn't you end up straight on top of the enemy's base?
That's the first thing I'm gonna try. Also, what happens when you walk the mantis off of a ledge/drop-off? I feel like if that wasn't considered properly, it will look fairly awkward.
 

Havok

Member
The same way you do in the tank. Basically you have to jump on and hit it once and hope the guy gets out (thinking you're going to blow it up) then you can kill him and take it. That's about the only way.
That's not how tank boarding has worked since Halo 3. In 3 and beyond, the tank driver cannot exit the vehicle after it has been boarded (which makes about zero sense since the driver is stuck even if the guy boards his tail end), so people don't even try anymore. The boarder can get off, but you're not gonna trick anyone that way. You either melee the driver to death and hope you can make it back into the now inevitably nearly-dead tank, or you nade it and know that there's no way they can steal it back.

If they're continuing the whole "driver turns into an idiot suddenly and locks himself in his own car" mechanic, hopefully they at least treat the Mantis the same way and allow the driver to be meleed to death without destroying the vehicle.
 

Vire

Member
Wondering if this could be a question to ask to 343 members now that the game is gold:

What is the single aspect that you are most proud of in Halo 4?
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
That's the first thing I'm gonna try. Also, what happens when you walk the mantis off of a ledge/drop-off? I feel like if that wasn't considered properly, it will look fairly awkward.

I hope it just falls over like an ATAT in Star Wars.

That's not how tank boarding has worked since Halo 3. In 3 and beyond, the tank driver cannot exit the vehicle after it has been boarded (which makes about zero sense since the driver is stuck even if the guy boards his tail end), so people don't even try anymore. The boarder can get off, but you're not gonna trick anyone that way. You either melee the driver to death and hope you can make it back into the now inevitably nearly-dead tank, or you nade it and know that there's no way they can steal it back.

Wow, I actually wasn't aware that you couldn't get out. Guess this is why I could never escape a boarding. :p
I wonder if you can get out in Halo 4 while being borded.
 

willow ve

Member
Uhhhh. If you Jetpack in your base's mancannon, using proper pulsing couldn't you end up straight on top of the enemy's base?

Do we even know anything about the "new" jetpack? Like how long does it last, how quick is the recharge, etc.?

I've got an idea for that - once you step into the man cannon, your aa meter gets fully depleted and has to go through the usual recharge period.
also it causes the player to suddenly explode, just for using jetpack

I like this idea
a lot
 
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