Devolution
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You're mistaken, people persevered in spite of them not because of them.
There was a 14 yr old who successfully lobbied Seventeen to cut that shit with a petition.
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'Ugly girl': The negative messages we send to our daughters
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You're mistaken, people persevered in spite of them not because of them.
There was a 14 yr old who successfully lobbied Seventeen to cut that shit with a petition.
Femmeworth
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Oh dear, a social darwinist.
See...the world is filled with three types of people...
Needs to be emphasized. Nobody's helping anyone by being an asshole.
kame-sennin
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It's really not. It's nothing like it in fact.
hillsighed
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inspiration behind
...How is that hat staying on his head?
Femmeworth
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That would be a nice future. I don't actually think we should make assholery illegal.
"I persevered and so can you."
GhostWriter24
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Anddd you are part of the problem.
right, because boys learn to take it and become men. we didnt have campaigns telling us our weak lungs were ok, just had treadmills
WanderingWind
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Yeah. Yeah, it really, really is. Maybe there aren't hoards of boys feeling bad because they're not pretty enough, but you think teen boys don't go through the same feelings regarding their looks, athletic abilities, etc?
It's not like this is a pie of pain that we need to divvy up and decide who eats it more. Life sucks at that age, and yeah, if you were born ugly chances are your life will face challenges beautiful people will not. It sucks, but it can hardly be disputed.
from left to right
Wouldn't, would, would, would, wouldn't (look at that ugly ass bra), definitely would, maybe, no way in hell, wouldn't, would, would, would.
That's the point of the thread right, to judge women based on their appearance?
Devolution
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Boys have their own issues. If you honestly think men are judged on an equivalent level (notice I didn't say not at all) as women, you haven't seen much media.
Does this really have to turn into a "we have it worse than them" type of debate? Because that could go on forever with no resolution...
I googled "ugly actors" and google gave me 2 imdb lists
First one is :
Anyone who call any of those ugly is suffering from "sharp knees" syndrome (I MIGHT understand Tilda Swilton .. not everyone is fan of androngynous looks)
second list has :
This list makes more sense ... but see the amount of girls in the list .. also LOL at Paris Hilton/Olsen/Miley Cyrus
Well I think the first mistake is responding to lunch box.
Devolution
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I didn't start that debate. Once again "what about the boys/men" comes in. I've already talked about how their issues are worse on some levels. Beauty is less of an issue, I'd say trying to conform to outdated masculine ideals is the real stinker for them.
Femmeworth
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Yes, GAF bylaws dictate that all gender threads devolve into a pissing contest.
To be fair, you can phrase the beauty issue as, "trying to conform to outdated feminine ideals."
those are beautiful menI googled "ugly actors" and google gave me 2 imdb lists
why are they ugly in your eyes? why dont they have a campaign?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
...I can piss standing up or sitting down. Checkmate.
I would all of them
None of these women are fat, or misshapen. This is a healthy size. The mean. All those curves are actually attractive.
I observe this shit every day. Young kids (8-14) tearing each other down, always, over hair and clothes and looks. It only gets worse as they get older. Their sense of self worth is tied to material things, and self centered attitudes are nurtured by a world which only cares about the way you look right then, at that moment, and not the experiences which made you the person you are today.
Devolution
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freenudemacusers
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nhlducks35
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What the fuck? Eva Green, really?I googled "ugly actors" and google gave me 2 imdb lists
So can women, technically.
Damnit. I'll pretend I started my post first.
edit:
Applies to this as well!
WanderingWind
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So can women, technically.
Damnit. I'll pretend I started my post first.
I CAN WRITE MY NAME IN THE SNOW WITHOUT MOVING. DOUBLE CHECKMATE!!!!
Devolution
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So can women, technically.
Damnit. I'll pretend I started my post first.
Just gimme some good boots. I want some good boots but I don't want to pay out my ass.
But can you fart out your dick?
freenudemacusers
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Some of those fail at bilateral symmetry ... but MOST if not all fit in the "I would not say WOW if I saw a dude like him on the street" .. 3 of those men are even bigger than the big campain image
I would be close to betting that if you took any 2 of that first list you would still not match the weight of the average gaffer =P
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I'm sorry =(
That's Rachel Dratch, not Miley Cyrus.
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This list makes more sense ... but see the amount of girls in the list .. also LOL at Paris Hilton/Olsen/Miley Cyrus
Ron Perlman is ugly? I always thought he was rugged handsome.
Best South Park Episode EVER
Look at the link ... there are "average and ugly dudes" and for girls.. "old women or teen celebrities"
Then you parents were simply not sufficient enough. Parents play a significant role, the significant role, in how prepared children are for life both literally and philosophically.
It is not about evasion, it is about succeeding and overcoming. It should have been your parents place to give you a platform for life that is more trusted than that of strangers. Parenting is hard work, the measure of which reflects on the greatness of their children.
It is not and should never be the responsibility of the rest of society to raise you. It does not owe you one iota of contentment or happiness and this dependency will only raise a perpetual victim.
Devolution
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I know! Hence me wanting some but I'm just a po' student right now though. Plus the cheaper ones are so bad on the inside too.
Who said anything about happiness? I'm talking about bombardment of imagery and standards held up by a society. If we do not actively fight to have them in the realm of realistic portrayals it negatively affects teenagers and causes them to harm themselves either in dietary measures or physically when they don't measure up. I don't know how you can honestly say that parents input alone will keep the pressure off. It's naive when ironically you're arguing the opposite.
I disagree with a lot of those. Most of those people aren't genuinely ugly at all. /shrug
I was going to say the same thing. Like this one (which focuses just on male actors):
http://www.imdb.com/list/JC5nMZ82mEg/
listen girl its ok to be fat, have curves, NATURAL curves!
Ron perlman? michael sera? ugly ass fat motherfuckers. dont they know men are just born with a great figure
IHaveCandy
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I know people hate the "guys get this too" argument, but it's true. I think women should stop caring about how they look so much. Guys don't think you're attractive? So what. I'm sure most girls don't find me attractive and it's never bugged me before.
WanderingWind
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That is definitely a check in the "con" column for y'all.
The issue is about raising people so easily malleable by people who intentionally try to exploit them. No amount of banning and controlling this or that will solve an issue of individual insecurity, you're simply changing the manner in which others will exploit an ever-willing victim.
Shouta
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The influence a parent has on a child is highly dependent on the society. The higher the power distance a country has, the more likely a child will absorb the information that is being transmitted from a parent. The social dynamics of a country like the US allows the society to affect children in spite of good parenting.
I was talking about a binary definition of beautiful/ugly ..... those are totaly normal men. The other ones are NOT normal women.
Those are far from actualy ugly men, but they are NOT what you think when you think "handsome men"
It is not OMFG IMPOSSIBLE to achieve a Jack Black or Zach Galifinafianakis look ... but if you were not born with enoght genes, you CAN'T be the next Eva Green or Angelina Jolie
freenudemacusers
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I can't believe how ridiculously proportioned Barbie is.
I blame the toys
I mean, her breasts are tiny.
WanderingWind
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...can't really be Brad Pitt or [insert some dude who women consider hot, I'm totally behind on these sorts of things] without the same assist from the genetic lottery.
It really does suck for everybody.
Devolution
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It has its uses.
There is no overt exploitation in a lot of cases, it's a bombardment of teasing and ridicule. In order to make these things stop they look to what's being cast in a positive light and try to emulate that. If the standards are ridiculous they never measure up and are always insecure. Even good parenting cannot stop bullying at the source but better and more realistic standards can be displayed rather than the current trend of digitally anorexic and photoshopped models. No one is asking for or entitled to a "happier" culture just that the media not reflect impossible standards and bombard people with that imagery.
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