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[axisofweevils]

Posted this in the other thread, but it's also valid here. New MCV article says that Wii U selling 40k in 48h represents "a complete sell out on the UK High Street" and it has a software attach ratio of 2:1.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/wii-u-sells-40k-units-in-the-uk-in-its-opening-weekend/0107419

 

[WeylandxYutani]

So BLOPS2 sold less then 1000 copies for 40k WiiU sales?

Great attach rate for the biggest game of the year.

Incorrect. More than double that and sixth biggest seller on the format. Not stunning though

 

[Captain Smoker]

actual evidence, like sales numbers that tell us 25K was clearly incorrect. Anecdotal evidence would be the thing you posted, based on a websites "source"

(...)
Retail sources suggest that effectively amounts to a complete sellout on the UK High Street. Stock is continuing to filter through to retail at a trickle but abundant supplies are not expected until the New Year.
(...)

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/wii-u-sells-40k-units-in-the-uk-in-its-opening-weekend/0107419


Well.

 

[metalslimer]

Mcv isn't reporting anything about 25k. They're reporting from their retail sources. I thought that website was generally considered reliable?

 

[Captain Smoker]

Mcv isn't reporting anything about 25k. They're reporting from their retail sources. I thought that website was generally considered reliable?

MCV usually reports GfK numbers.

 

[shinra-bansho]

CVG talks about day one, the last week includes two days so this is logical.

Different separate shipments for day one and day two of a console launch would indicate the stupidest supply chain ever.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

Hey Nintendo! Hey! Look! Listen!

 

[radioheadrule83]

Posted this in the other thread, but it's also valid here. New MCV article says that Wii U selling 40k represents "a complete sell out on the UK High Street" and it has a software attach ratio of 2:1.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/wii-u-sells-40k-units-in-the-uk-in-its-opening-weekend/0107419

That is the lowest intentional shipment for a UK console launch that I can remember.

After the revelations of how few sales you need to achieve to chart, and this, I seriously suspect we're no longer the premier games market in Europe. We were third largest market in the world before 2008.

 

[Captain Smoker]

Different separate shipments for day one and day two of a console launch would indicate the stupidest supply chain ever.

It doesn't need to be 25k exactly, the main point is supply constrains, MCV states the same.

 

[TheDrowningMan]

Different separate shipments for day one and day two of a console launch would indicate the stupidest supply chain ever.

Would it be the sort of supply chain that ensures many supermarkets receive absolutely zero Wii U product (not speaking purely consoles here) while ensuring online retailers never sell out?

 

[Satchel]

I don't know why people insist on saying marketing is the issue with All-Stars, no one wanted or asked for it, tha's the problem

Yep.

Shitty game no one wanted, or asked for, that received no marketing to top it off.

I'm surprised people are surprised.

 

[gofreak]

That is the lowest intentional shipment for a UK console launch that I can remember.

I have some doubts about quite how strong the 'sell out' claim is. It's hard to imagine they'd ship so few given the size of previous launches. A supply limit of 40k is almost 'should we really launch it now?' territory.

That it's apparently in stock at various UK online retailers is also not dissuading skepticism.

 

[Kosma]

50K shipment seems waaaay too low for the whole of the UK.

 

[Pie and Beans]

I have no trust in the 'High Street' sell out quote at all. Reality does not gel with it in several cities across the country.

 

[Kosma]

I have no trust in the 'High Street' sell out quote at all. Reality does not gel with it in several cities across the country.

I think High Street is desperately trying to make a hype out of it to create traffic and buzz. But if it is available online that says enough.

If it was really sold out you would get iPhone/Galaxy type of stuff where you can't even put money down on it cause they don't know when the next shipment is.

 

[Tratorn]

It doesn't need to be 25k exactly, the main point is supply constrains, MCV states the same.

Ok, so WiiU will get a big boost in the next charts then, since it at least now doesn't have supply constrains anymore, not even in online stores (game, shopto, argos, tesco). Amazon also gets their next shipment tomorrow.

 

[acm2000]

if it means anything, HMV, GAME, Gamestation in ipswich all had walk in stock of both wiiu models on saturday, so sell out, my arse

 

[SmokyDave]

I have no trust in the 'High Street' sell out quote at all. Reality does not gel with it in several cities across the country.

Perhaps 'High Street' is shorthand for 'Grainger Games & HMV'?

What's odd is that CEX appear to have a good number in stock. Given that they only buy pre-owned, I can't figure out how that's happened.

 

[shinra-bansho]

I have some doubts about quite how strong the 'sell out' claim is. It's hard to imagine they'd ship so few given the size of previous launches. A supply limit of 40k is almost 'should we really launch it now?' territory.

That it's apparently in stock at various UK online retailers is also not dissuading skepticism.

Nintendo intend to ship ~3.5M units for the CY.

That presumably means a ~1M+ European shipment for Launch/December. I really can't see a 40K UK launch shipment.

 

[Captain Smoker]

Ok, so WiiU will get a big boost in the next charts then, since it at least now doesn't have supply constrains anymore, not even in online stores (game, shopto, argos, tesco). Amazon also gets their next shipment tomorrow.

I don't know, we'll see how it's going to perform in the next months.

If it stays at this rate UK-Nintendo has to do something, that's sure.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Not only are those WiiU sales surprising, it's also surprising to me that the console was released. I totally forgot about it and with seeing little or no evidence of the launch on TV etc.

Fun fact: I've seen more Borderlands 2 adverts than Wii U ones recently.

 

[Pie and Beans]

Perhaps 'High Street' is shorthand for 'Grainger Games & HMV'?

What's odd is that CEX appear to have a good number in stock. Given that they only buy pre-owned, I can't figure out how that's happened.

Yeah exactly, Grainger Games is like the only place I could find with no stock, and thats understandable.

MCV has been on some very shaky trustworthy grounds this last year or so. Anyway, great news for those of us eager for price-drops! Christmas time and the markets not hungry enough? Roll on that 2013 slashy slashy.

 

[omonimo]

I moved on to hope.

Shame PS3 userbase isn't as big in NA.

I don't think All stars bombed for this, in any case ps3 userbase is not that little.

 

[Captain Smoker]

Not only are those WiiU sales surprising, it's also surprising to me that the console was released. I totally forgot about it and with seeing little or no evidence of the launch on TV etc.

I suppose they're going to market this more towards christmas, early adopters don't need TV commercials. You can also tell it by the Premium Bundle/Zombi U Bundle <> Basic Bundle rate, last one is only 10%.

In this case, it probably didn't work out that well, but if this isn't that much supply constrained (contradicting articles), Nintendo will do something, we'll see. If supply constrained, should get better in the next few weeks/months.

 

[Carl]

Personally, i went around town on friday and there was no evidence that a new console was even out. No racks with WiiU games on, no posters in GAME/HMV windows etc. It was weird, really.

 

[omonimo]

Personally, i went around town on friday and there was no evidence that a new console was even out. No racks with WiiU games on, no posters in GAME/HMV windows etc. It was weird, really.

Because nintendo is just embarrassed to have release it.

 

[Ashes]

lol@ touts

http://www.play.com/Games/Wii/4-/32...urce=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search

 

[Psychotext]

I have some doubts about quite how strong the 'sell out' claim is.

It's MCV. They're pretty much just an industry cheerleader at this point.

 

[Ashes]

new thread.

 

[Floex]

By the way the Wii-U isn't sold out in the uk, plenty of places still to buy, online and off. MCV is turning out to be utter joke with its head deeply buried in denial

The 'journal' from that article was also part of the recent Dorito-gate scandal

A poster on GRcade posted places currently available to buy a wiiU

GAME: 10 bundles available
Amazon: Basic Pack in stock; Premium back in stock tomorrow
Tesco: In Stock
Sainsbury's: Basic in stock; Premium Sold Out
Shopto: In Stock
Toys R Us: In Stock
Play.com: In Stock
Curry's: In Stock
Argos: In Stock

MCV is just utter trash

 

[m.i.s.]

Hey Nintendo! Hey! Look! Listen!

Not my type of game but what a fantastic cover!

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

I expected higher Wii U Just Dance sales for some reason.

Anyway, Ubisoft isn't likely to see much of a return on investment with those numbers.

It didn't come with a WiiMote, why would JD sell well there vs Wii?

 

[Dabanton]

LOL at MCV.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Can I ask, how does the UK compared to the rest of Europe and the US at this point? I know everyone says UK games market is f*cked but how does it compare to everyone else?

 

[Psychotext]

I don't think we've had any figures for a while. It used to be ~25% of the European market (and significantly bigger than 2nd and 3rd place Germany and France) but that's probably changed now, and it might even be behind Germany in total sales.

 

[DrWong]

I don't think we've had any figures for a while. It used to be ~25% of the European market (and significantly bigger than 2nd and 3rd place Germany and France) but that's probably changed now, and it might even be behind Germany in total sales.

Behind France is also very possible as the launch here is with 240K Wii U and I think UK - according to rumors/articles - is with 100K max.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Behind France is also very possible as the launch here is with 240K Wii U and I think UK - according to rumors/articles - is with 100K max.

Source for 240k figure?

 

[Mpl90]

Guardian top 20

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/03/top-20-video-games

 

[DrWong]

Source for 240k figure?

From Nintendo France.

Edit: now that I'm reading this news again it says "240K shipped between launch day and end of december".

 

[The_lascar]

Isn't 100K the supposed UK Wii U launch stock ?

In France it's 240K. If these datas are true, what does it tell us about the UK market ?

The 240k figure count for the whole year-end season, not the launch.

Edit: .

 

[jesusraz]

Places like Manchester and Warrington had walk-in stock, although HMV told me that Nintendo was being rather evasive on the matter of stock supplies so it was a bit in the dark, despite being the official launch-central store.

Re-stocks came on Thursday last week, in time to be included in the weekend's sales.

 

[user_nat]

Interesting that the 360 bundle games (FM4, Skyrim) have been dropping a fair bit over recent weeks. New releases obviously contribute, but you would expect hardware sales to be increasing at this stage.

 

[Kosma]

Guardian top 20

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/03/top-20-video-games

11th ouch.

 

[dragonbane]

Honestly? I think it looks dreadful so am maybe a bit biased.
But I don't see any reason to pick it up.

Yeah this is pretty understandable, since they only showed a single announcement trailer. I don't think they expected anyone to pre-order the game just because of that. The game spans 15 years, they will probably show more stuff next year. Heavy Rain wasn't on many people's radar till August 2009 and development started in 2007. Quantic Dream usually starts pushing their games pretty late.

I think Heavy Rain had the appeal of looking absolutely brilliant. Those graphics are not as much as a wow now. I think it will do well but I'm not expecting HR numbers.

Nah, it will make 2+ million for sure I think. They have a pretty established fan base right now and every game from them receives excellent reviews. Word-of-mouth and mainstream media coverage also helps them a lot.

And once they start marketing the game next year, the game will be fine. They didn't show anything yet, so of course it's hard to get excited. This will probably change soon.

 

[grimshawish]

Yeah this is pretty understandable, since they only showed a single announcement trailer. I don't think they expected anyone to pre-order the game just because of that. The game spans 15 years, they will probably show more stuff next year. Heavy Rain wasn't on many people's radar till August 2009 and development started in 2007. Quantic Dream usually starts pushing their games pretty late.

Oh deary me, people are sensitive lately.
There was a DF analysis of the game where framerate ran fucking dreadful and from what I could tell it had the same amount of gameplay as me lifting a cup of coffee and taking a sip.