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The Phantom Pain, aka Metal Gear Solid V, Announced (360/PS3, "Moby Dick Studio")

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yurinka

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Sn4ke_911 said:
He said Ground Zeroes is a prologue to MGS 5. He never said it's not Metal Gear Solid V.
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If it's a prologue then it's another game.
CambriaRising said:
It only proves that is is MGSV.

I am still on board the Vita train.
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If after Kojima's attempt of making MGS5 for PSP with Peace Walker he finally makes MGS5 a Vita exclusive (being Ground Zeroes just a short prologue to it) then I'd laugh hard. And would buy 4 copies.
Kojima mastering trolling techniques.
 
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KAL2006

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yurinka said:
Kojima said that Ground Zeroes isn't MGS5, and Phantom Pain is MGS5.
So Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain aren't the same game.

I think Phantom Pain is a sequel to Ground Zeroes, which if I don't mistake it's placed before MG2. So it may fit.
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Well I think he is just trolling. Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain are just names for the trailers, and most likely the name of the game is Metal Gear Solid 5: Insert Subtitle. It would be quite silly to announce Ground Zeroes and MGS5 with no game released yet. Also, all MGS games on consoles have always been numbered, for example Snake Eater was MGS3 even though it was a prequel, so why change that with Ground Zeroes if that's also a prequel.
 
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diamount

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jett said:
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If you taking that image as confirmation then that's really grasping at straws. For all you know Kojima just likes to troll people.
 
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jett

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Welp, based on the last few seconds of the trailer, David Hayter confirmed. I just know that douche's Snake voice too well. Wish they would just replace him with a competent(at least) voice actor.

diamount said:
If you taking that image as confirmation then that's really grasping at straws. For all you know Kojima just likes to troll people.
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Yes, and you and a lot of other people are getting trolled.

Massa said:
If I had to guess I'd say this is the Operation Raccoon City of the MGS franchise.
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If I had to guess I'd say you probably didn't read the OP at all.
 
yurinka

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BTW, remember Project Ogre screenshots guys. Do you think that they may fit with this game? :

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KAL2006 said:
Well I think he is just trolling. Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain are just names for the trailers, and most likely the name of the game is Metal Gear Solid 5: Insert Subtitle. It would be quite silly to announce Ground Zeroes and MGS5 with no game released yet. Also, all MGS games on consoles have always been numbered, for example Snake Eater was MGS3 even though it was a prequel, so why change that with Ground Zeroes if that's also a prequel.
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I think the subtitle of MGS 5 is Phantom Pain as its logo proves. And that MGS Ground Zeroes is a separated title. Yep, maybe a short early downloadable paid demo with a separated story like the Dead Rising 2 one, but not directly the same game. The videos were way different.
Sn4ke_911 said:
A prologue (Greek πρόλογος prologos, from the word pro (before) and lógos, word) is an opening to a story that establishes the setting and gives background details, often some earlier story that ties into the main one, and other miscellaneous information.
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Ok, thanks :)
KAL2006 said:
What makes you think it's another game?
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What he said in interviews, that Ground Zeroes wasn't MGS5, and wasn't Project Ogre. And Phantom Pain seems confirmed to be MGSV, and maybe Project Ogre too according to Kojima's fake Swedish name.
 
Dwight Schrute

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Is it really next gen ? Looks like it could run on PS360. Looks like Ground Zero engine.

Again I'm no graphical expert of some sorts, but if so, then next gen graphical bump won't be as imprssive as previous bumps I guess.
 
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Don'tBeWeird

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Guys, guys, this is clearly a trailer for the new Metal Gear movie directed by J.J. Abrams and will be simultaneously be released alongside Ground Zeroes.
 
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Reiko

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JonStark said:
Is it really next gen ? Looks like it could run on PS360. Looks like Ground Zero engine.

Again I'm no graphical expert of some sorts, but if so, then next gen graphical bump won't be as imprssive as previous bumps I guess.
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The Snake model looked low poly.
 
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bud

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i should probably know better after the abomination that was mgs4, but... i'm really looking forward to this.

please be more like mgs1, 2 and 3 rather than 4. ;_;
 
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The Last One

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JonStark said:
Is it really next gen ? Looks like it could run on PS360. Looks like Ground Zero engine.

Again I'm no graphical expert of some sorts, but if so, then next gen graphical bump won't be as imprssive as previous bumps I guess.
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It's not confirmed for next gen. In their website there are logos for 360 and ps3.
 
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bud said:
i should probably know better after the abomination that was mgs4, but... i'm really looking forward to this.

please be more like mgs1, 2 and 3 rather than 4. ;_;
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Pretty much how I feel. I can't help but be hyped for this, even though I loathed MGS4.
 
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Hypereides

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Moby Dick studios...

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Kojima Productions...


Both logos share a resemblance to each other. Features animal and similiar font. Yeah this, doesnt take much work to figure out. Its pretty parallel to one another. The whole thing is razor thin.

Could be the name of a new unit: Cobra Unit/ Fox Hound unit/ Moby Dick unit... shit if I know.

Kojima must be going totally Valve on this.
 
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jett said:
...seriously?
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Don't be like that. I even made an MGS joke when the trailer was being revealed live on GAF! The character lookalikes can easily be explained as people projecting onto the game. The interchanging logo gif uses a typeface and spacing for "Metal Gear Solid V" that has never appeared on anything official, and it isn't even a perfect fit if you look closely (the letter T in particular). That is to say, it looks like somebody has tried to make the letters fit the logo, rather than the other way around. The spacing itself is variable with different letters having different lengths between them (the V in particular is quite distant from the word prior compared to the others), but shit, I'm not a font expert so I don't know if that's unusual or not.

I've seen people hype up a series of coincidences into what turned out to be fucking nothing what feels like a zillion times, and I've dealt with plenty of people making similar "ironclad" case for all sorts of conspiracies or other such stuff. I'm extremely skeptical by nature. The way I feel right now, this has a less than 50% shot of actually being MGS related.
 
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What are the chances ground zeros is just a smaller downloadable game like Dead Rising 2 Case Zero and this is the real game?


I wonder if Moby Dick plays a part in the story? Does Big Boss have any metaphorical whales he is chancing?
 
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The little piano stinger when the title comes up at the end sounds so much like the jingle that would play over the PA system in Batman Arkham Asylum at the start of every message.
 
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Reiko

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ThoseDeafMutes said:
Don't be like that. I even made an MGS joke when the trailer was being revealed live on GAF! The character lookalikes can easily be explained as people projecting onto the game. The interchanging logo gif uses a typeface and spacing for "Metal Gear Solid V" that has never appeared on anything official, and it isn't even a perfect fit if you look closely (the letter T in particular). That is to say, it looks like somebody has tried to make the letters fit the logo, rather than the other way around. The spacing itself is variable with different letters having different lengths between them (the V in particular is quite distant from the word prior compared to the others), but shit, I'm not a font expert so I don't know if that's unusual or not.

I've seen people hype up a series of coincidences into what turned out to be fucking nothing what feels like a zillion times, and I've dealt with plenty of people making similar "ironclad" case for all sorts of conspiracies or other such stuff. I'm extremely skeptical by nature. The way I feel right now, this has a less than 50% shot of actually being MGS related.
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The nanomachines infused into the footage would led you to believe that it's not saying Metal Gear Solid 5. But it actually is.
 
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Raiden

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Was MGS5 supposed to be a open world game? I mean if this would be an open world game it would look insanely good.

You could say GTA 4 looks like shit compared to Gears of War but one is a huge world and the other pretty much corridor-medium sized spaces.
 
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highluxury said:
Moby Dick studios...

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Kojima Productions...


Both logos share a resemblance to each other. Features animal and similiar font. Yeah this, doesnt take much work to figure out. Its pretty parallel to one another. The whole thing is razor thin.

Could be the name of a new unit: Cobra Unit/ Fox Hound unit/ Moby Dick unit... shit if I know.

Kojima must be going totally Valve on this.
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Exactly, the typography throughout the trailer is very similar of that of previous MGS games. The Phantom Pain logo even shares a heritage with the Rvengeance logo,it was probably made by the same guy.
 
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ThoseDeafMutes said:
Don't be like that. I even made an MGS joke when the trailer was being revealed live on GAF! The character lookalikes can easily be explained as people projecting onto the game. The interchanging logo gif uses a typeface and spacing for "Metal Gear Solid V" that has never appeared on anything official, and it isn't even a perfect fit if you look closely (the letter T in particular). That is to say, it looks like somebody has tried to make the letters fit the logo, rather than the other way around. The spacing itself is variable with different letters having different lengths between them (the V in particular is quite distant from the word prior compared to the others), but shit, I'm not a font expert so I don't know if that's unusual or not.

I've seen people hype up a series of coincidences into what turned out to be fucking nothing what feels like a zillion times, and I've dealt with plenty of people making similar "ironclad" case for all sorts of conspiracies or other such stuff. I'm extremely skeptical by nature. The way I feel right now, this has a less than 50% shot of actually being MGS related.
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Man, no...it's clear as day.

How do you even rationalize Kyle Cooper as a "moby dick" swedish developer?
 
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bud

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the platform logos in the trailer are like the old raiden/ninja switcheroo.

ps3 & 360? nope, vita-only.

velieve.
 
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Rapstah

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If you want to investigate the Joakim Mogren trail a bit more, there seems to only be one Swedish person named that and he's some sort of hippie who likes the Dalai Lama on Facebook. Completely unrelated to the games industry.
 
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Hmm. That guy with the bandages on his face must be important. He's helping Snake a lot inf the trailer and if he wasn't someone significant, they wouldn't cover up his face. He reminds me of this actually, of all things:

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Also, wild speculation on my part. Everyone in the hospital looks very similar. At first, I figured it was just the developers not bothering to differ the character models much. Then I thought, maybe it's purely because they all have shaved hair cuts. Snake doesn't have a shaved cut though, the mullet is intact. Could they be clones?
 
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Sickboy007 said:
Man, no...it's clear as day.

How do you even rationalize Kyle Cooper as a "moby dick" swedish developer?
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1. I have never heard of Kyle Cooper before your post just then.
2. Preliminary investigation shows that he's not a developer, he is a graphic designer, and he is also for hire, having worked on slightly more than MGS2/3. Why would working for a Swedish company be weirder for a US citizen than working for a Japanese company?

Sickboy007 said:
Besides, that's clearly the fox engine running a mgs game. Animations, rendering, david fucking hayter. c'mon son.
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Clearly the fox engine? Is this going to be the next version of "the Unreal Engine Look"? Is David Hayter actually confirmed, or are you going off 2 seconds of loud breathing at the end of a trailer to recognize somebody's voice when you already have it fixed in your head that this is MGS and are interpreting every single detail through that filter?
 
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JonStark said:
Is it really next gen ? Looks like it could run on PS360. Looks like Ground Zero engine.

Again I'm no graphical expert of some sorts, but if so, then next gen graphical bump won't be as imprssive as previous bumps I guess.
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The funny thing is, when the first trailer of the new engine was released, people claims something like "wow it can't be on current console, next generation of course" etc etc now the statement is completely changed, but honestly the graphic appears exactly the same of the previous trailer, I don't understand why people change his mind so fastly.
 
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Would be awesome if this metal gear starred Solidus. I know he has an arm in MGS2 but you can explain everything in the mgs universe with nanomachines. Is there a picture of young solidus??
 
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ThoseDeafMutes said:
Clearly the fox engine? Is this going to be the next version of "the Unreal Engine Look"? Is David Hayter actually confirmed, or are you going off 2 seconds of loud breathing at the end of a trailer to recognize somebody's voice when you already have it fixed in your head that this is MGS and are interpreting every single detail through that filter?
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Hayter changed his twitter avatar to Solid Snake.

Just saying.
 
jobber

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I'm going to go with...

Snake is injured and ends up in Silent Hill. Bad guys find out Snake's location and invade Silent Hill. Will Silent Hill's paranormal creatures be able to defend their territory? Stay Tuned!
 
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raphier

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Doubters better watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5IVOs5Pxh8 GZ Demo and then PP trailer. The similarities on the character model are so even I would call this the same game. Heck, The way both Snakes crawl are of same animator.

What I think is going on:

In an event of two games, these games will co-exist in parallel. GroundZeroes and Phantom Pain. GZ Snakes will sneak through this facility (hence seeing this strange soldier knocking down and killing bodies like an assassin) and Then we have PP Snake trying to avoid these soldiers and GZ Snake. "From Phantom were born Two."
 
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ThoseDeafMutes said:
1. I have never heard of Kyle Cooper before your post just then.
2. Preliminary investigation shows that he's not a developer, he is a graphic designer, and he is also for hire, having worked on slightly more than MGS2/3. Why would working for a Swedish company be weirder for a US citizen than working for a Japanese company?



Clearly the fox engine? Is this going to be the next version of "the Unreal Engine Look"? Is David Hayter actually confirmed, or are you going off 2 seconds of loud breathing at the end of a trailer to recognize somebody's voice when you already have it fixed in your head that this is MGS and are interpreting every single detail through that filter?
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Cooper has only ever worked for KojiPro in videogames. Are you really being clear headed, or do you have it fixed in your head that it's not MGS?
 
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