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The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD Announced
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Porcile
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Fall 2013, apparently.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
let's save remakes for games that aren't perfect.
TalesOfWin
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if it's nintendos flagship holiday 2013 game I will be pretty disappointed. I love wind waker, but if it doesnt have extra content then probably wont buy it. I completed wind waker 3 times already, and last playthrough was last year.
I doubt that Wind Waker will be Nintendo's "flagship" title for the holiday, more likely I view it as something to fill in the early fall months leading up to the major season, i.e. some time in August or September. If they deliver on what they said was coming for E3, I could see the new Mario Kart being the title that gets the big November/December push, possibly alongside one of the other smaller projects, like Yoshi or Wonderful 101.
TalesOfWin
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I wish Smash Bros would be ready for next x-mas. I guess that's not realistic.
Mario Kart Wii U will be.
Because the lack of dungeons is the biggest flaw in Wind Waker and it has one of the most blatantly obvious examples of a cut dungeon.
TalesOfWin
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Wind Waker was rushed, and I dont understand why. The game came out in March in America. They easily given it another 6 months in development, especially since there was no shortage of good games at that time period. Metroid Prime came out just 4 months earlier.
Meesh
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Well, they remade OoT as it were(sorta), and I'm sure MM is being considered for 3ds as well so I think all bets are on.
It's really not though. Streamlining the Triforce-hunt and some of the minor annoyances is more important imo. I was perfectly fine with the amount of dungeons. Also, they're really not going to, and shouldn't, spend resources on new dungeons for a remake, especially when they're in the middle of developing 2 brand new games.
Spieler Eins
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No, the teleport spots often weren't ideal and you still wasted too much time on the empty sea. A big chunk of the map wasn't covered at all, because you would go inside an island for an upgrade early on, but can't leave it whenever you go there by warping until the end.
Really, there just needs to be more exciting shit to happen and discover while sailing. Even the regular islands are mostly underwhelming as fuck, so that doesn't help either. More dungeons were never needed, on the other hand. If anything, the ones that are in should have been improved, they might just be the worst in the series. The partner dungeons were especially annoying.
lol, though I was excited at first, I just again realise how bad of an entry this game was to the Zelda series and any other remake would have been preferable
Unless they really improve it Zero Mission/REmake style.Demoncarnotaur
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My biggest complaint is the lack of cel shading.. otherwise, everything else looks stellar. If they can recapture the cartoony shading and shadows it will be perfect.
As for the color pallet swap, I don't mind, but I do suppose the original has the edge.
As for the color pallet swap, I don't mind, but I do suppose the original has the edge.
Pachterballs
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nintendo does it annual rehashing of old franchises insteading of making new games.
however, if they add the 2 missing dungeons, this might be a worthwhile venture.
however, if they add the 2 missing dungeons, this might be a worthwhile venture.
7) Add in the 3 missing dungeons (Nayru's Pearl, Fire Temple, & Ice Temple)
8) Make it so that changing wind direction is less tedious
9) Can have the sail & one other item out at the same time on the boat
10) Fix the statues sidequest so you automatically get the statue when you take a correct picture (instead of running back and forth all the damn time)
There's so many things this remake could have changed even if Nintendo does the bare minimum. From allowing more picture slots to Tingle Tuner seeing more usage to item management adjustments (placing the sail on a more convenient button rather than having to equip it all the time and touch screen item access), etc. Like, the game really does benefit from even the smallest things which makes me excited about this release; even if they don't fix some of the more glaring flaws, the smaller ones that are likely to come contribute to some of those anyway.
This isn't the GBA days.
The triforce hunt was shoehorned in because they were up against a deadline and HAD to have the game out on time. That's the ONLY reason it is there.
EmCeeGramr
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I dunno, like half of the Fish-Men hints have something to do with the pieces or charts, Tingle's only purpose in the game is to decipher the charts, and a significant portion of the islands and sidequests have to do with the pieces or charts. There's no indication that the hunt itself was shoehorned in.
EricDiesel
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To make me happy they really just need to tune down the contrast and halve the bloom. I actually really like the shadow effects. And if I get sick of it I still have Dolphin.
It'd be nice if they had an option to choose "Original Graphics" or "updated Graphics" in a menu somewhere, too.
It'd be nice if they had an option to choose "Original Graphics" or "updated Graphics" in a menu somewhere, too.
DarknessTear
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Eiji Aonuma said it was a rushjob himself.
I don't think the screens they showed are anything like what the finished product will look like. To be honest, it looks like they threw a level from the Wind Waker into the engine that runs Nintendo Land out of curiosity. I think the actual final product will look much cleaner and cohesive.
I also don't believe that they'll make sweeping changes to the game itself, I mean, the title itself implies that it's just a graphical upgrade. Though knowing Nintendo's past efforts at re-releasing titles, they might add an extra dungeon or something.
lwilliams3
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I don't know.. I think WW does not have to be dungeon-heavy. I felt the pacing for most of the game was very good. The issue was the mandatory Triforce quest. If you didnt explore the world, it could take a long time to finish that. While some missions was cool (like tracking the ghost ship and the Ice/Fire mountains), others does seem to be there as filler for something that would have been more interesting. (like Tingle asking for all that money).
I think WW is one of the Zelda games should be remade because it is an excellent game but was suffered from pacing issues and some incomplete areas due to its rushed development time.
I agree with 8) I think 9) was not really a problem, but 10) was part of filler issue I mentioned before.
I thought of another one:
11) More than two warps for the sea. It is weird that the Zelda game with the biggest overworld has the smaller number of warps.
It's not just a graphical upgrade, Aonuma specifically said they would be tuning up the gameplay.
Ein Bear
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I often wonder what the cut dungeons were like.
I know they were incorporated into TP, but I wonder how close to completion they were. Like, was it just a couple of puzzles scattered around, or are two dungeons in TP pretty much lifed completely from WW? Which ones? I wish more games had 'making ofs' and such, game development is so interesting.
I know they were incorporated into TP, but I wonder how close to completion they were. Like, was it just a couple of puzzles scattered around, or are two dungeons in TP pretty much lifed completely from WW? Which ones? I wish more games had 'making ofs' and such, game development is so interesting.
If you notice the original reveal trailer for Twilight Princess, there's a scene where he's pushing a block and it's still using the Wind Waker push animation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRDOVNuZMBk (0:27 for reference)
Maybe whatever dungeon he is in is a formerly Wind Waker dungeon?
Link's animations have nothing to do with where he is.
All right, let's have that Sonic 2006 remake now. oh wait.
.... I'm using it to refer to the fact that the animation indicates how early the version was, hence my theory that any functioning dungeon will likely have been transplanted from Wind Waker.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Indeed. To this day, Wind Waker is one of only two games that have ever convinced me to buy them from the first second I saw it in motion. The other game was Ridge Racer on a friend's import PSP.
I remember being aware of WW from screenshots in EGM, but I didnt have a GC back then when it was first announced. I had one by the time the demo disc came in the shipping to the EB I worked at at the time. Instantly put down an order for the CE.
It is perhaps the best looking game from its time, and I cant think of many games that will age as gracefully.
Though I still havent finished it.
Why would you do that?
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I really hope they fix the Jabun part. It, more so than the Triforce quest, seems like the very laziest and rushed part of the game to me.
Even the island Jabun is on is marked on the Wind Waker map as an "important" island still (like Outset, Forsaken, Dragon, Forest, and the like), even though there's absolutely nothing special about it. It entirely feels like in the last second of development, they replaced the important, level-containing island with garbage, and instead just gave you the important item that was found in the level.
Even as a kid, I was disappointed...
Even the island Jabun is on is marked on the Wind Waker map as an "important" island still (like Outset, Forsaken, Dragon, Forest, and the like), even though there's absolutely nothing special about it. It entirely feels like in the last second of development, they replaced the important, level-containing island with garbage, and instead just gave you the important item that was found in the level.
Even as a kid, I was disappointed...
There are a few things in the game like that. Even back then, I remember having the impression that Wind Waker was only half-finished.
It gets hate?
It's a terrific game, and the best 3d Zelda.
The triforce hunt is one of my main gripes with the game, definitely one of it's weaknesses. It would've been cool if the tinkered with last parts of the game a bit for this enhanced re-release.
No, the teleport spots often weren't ideal and you still wasted too much time on the empty sea. A big chunk of the map wasn't covered at all, because you would go inside an island for an upgrade early on, but can't leave it whenever you go there by warping until the end.
Really, there just needs to be more exciting shit to happen and discover while sailing. Even the regular islands are mostly underwhelming as fuck, so that doesn't help either. More dungeons were never needed, on the other hand. If anything, the ones that are in should have been improved, they might just be the worst in the series. The partner dungeons were especially annoying.
lol, though I was excited at first, I just again realise how bad of an entry this game was to the Zelda series and any other remake would have been preferable
I honestly thought it would have been wonderful to dive off the boat and look for stuff underwater.
But I know that if they had done that, the would have had to model Hyrule under the water, and that would have spoiled the entire game's ending lol.
Snowden's Secret
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I hate to be that guy, but there won't be any content changes to the re-release. In the OoT3D Iwata Asks, Grezzo said Miyamoto explicitly forbid them from altering the content as players of the original would feel that their memories had been betrayed.
None of the original content can be altered without possibly ruining the experience for some portion of the user base. I enjoy the Triforce hunt, for example.
None of the original content can be altered without possibly ruining the experience for some portion of the user base. I enjoy the Triforce hunt, for example.
Dion Blaster
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I didn't think it was so bad myself. But I can't imagine anyone being mad about a couple mini-dungeons added to replace it.
There were no real flaws with OoT. This isn't true with WW. There are quite a few things that can easily be fixed to make the game even more amazing.
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