Darkmakaimura
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Considering he was the antagonist in Dead Space 3, I don't see why Templeman wouldn't want to return to the Kain series.
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Melchiah
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I think they were really unnecessary addition to the lore.
BibiMaghoo
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You must have dreamed this. Blood Omen 2 does not exist.
It hasn't even been on any NPD that I've seen and SE pretends it doesn't exist when they do their financial reports. It definitely didn't do anywhere near 3 million, probably not even close to 1 million. Otherwise SE would have given details on it a few days ago. Chartz is banned here for a reason (I assume that's what you were quoting).
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Blood Omen 2 was garbage and it should be remade ASAP to keep it in tone with the rest of the series.
BTW I'm hoping that if this is a reboot, it's a post blood omen 1 game. Taking place between BO and SR, with Kain already being king, the birth of Raziel and his brothers and the mythology expanded even more. Blood Omen 1 should be remade in a later prequel, but it's quite an ambitious game to modernize at the first try. If my memory serves me well it's like what, 30 hours long?
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Blood Omen 2 was garbage and it should be remade ASAP to keep it in tone with the rest of the series.
BTW I'm hoping that if this is a reboot, it's a post blood omen 1 game. Taking place between BO and SR, with Kain already being king, the birth of Raziel and his brothers and the mythology expanded even more.
OH MAN THIS WOULD BE AMAZING AND NOT REQUIRE TONY JAY AAAAAAAH
And it will never happen.
Mystic_Wanderer
Member
You're letting your dislike of the game color your sales analysis.
You can doubt the 3 mil (which I do too), but to suggest it's not even close to 1 million is silly.
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ZombieFred
Unconfirmed Member
I think for the PC digital market it has sold well enough to have done a decent chunk of units, and whatever they shipped at retail in combine would most likely have paid for the games production. I wouldn't call it the success Square saw with it but I am hoping they will take it as a valuable lesson on what makes Hitman great in the first place with the next instalment (which is still fine) and let them do what they want. With a Hitman film under way and already doing some marketing and releasing a title, they've got an easy second chance to turn things around.
The game did very well thanks to the marketing and discount they did here in the UK. They were crazy to try and release it along with Call of Duty and Halo though.
Mystic_Wanderer
Member
Also, here's a comment from one of those involved with the game:
"While I can't comment on sales, I don't think you'll have to worry about the future of the franchise. There will be more games coming out. Probably even ones you lot will like better than Absolution."
bigdaddygamebot
Member
Wicked. Now they get to fuck that IP up as well!
Jawmuncher
Member
The reboot is coming.
Though it'll turn into a GOW like adventure and everyone on gaf will hate it.
Though it'll turn into a GOW like adventure and everyone on gaf will hate it.
You have no way of knowing that. You're listing friggin chartz for christ's sake. SE would have said if it sold a million copies in less than 3 months but they didn't a few days ago. Not 1 word about Hitman at all, just sleeping dogs which was a decent success for them.
Not really that surprising, but still great news.
Defiance wrapped up most of the previous story threads anyway.
IMO they could just sort of quasi-reboot it where they just ignore most of the previous convoluted backstory without going all the way back to him being human. Just use Kain and/or Raziel in a new unrelated story.
P.s.
Now bring back Fear Effect.
P.p.s.
Vae Victus.
Defiance wrapped up most of the previous story threads anyway.
IMO they could just sort of quasi-reboot it where they just ignore most of the previous convoluted backstory without going all the way back to him being human. Just use Kain and/or Raziel in a new unrelated story.
P.s.
Now bring back Fear Effect.
P.p.s.
Vae Victus.
A legacy of Kain game with no kain...
But the game was ridicously long and an update would be too taxing for a first try with modernized mechanics. It'd be better for them to beginf with a relatively easier story to stalish the characters and then make Bllood Omen a prequel later in the generation.
Most of us played Soul Reaver without having played Blood Omen first and we were fine.
We're just worried SE will screw this up like that and Tomb Raider.
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ZombieFred
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I will still have to wait and see on Tomb Raider, I still have some kind of hope the game is not bad as it looks with how awful their marketing is.
Melchiah
Member
Soul Reaver II?
It doesn't let you experience the period first hand though.
What ever direction they might choose, I just hope they'll tone down the amount of platforming, and the block puzzles.
Blood Omen wasn't long solely because of story reasons, it's also because of the kind of game it was. They're not going to make an isometric, dungeon crawler; I don't see how it would be any better to reboot with Raziel rather than Kane. Apart from liking one character over another, I suppose.
Good lord I hated those. LoK games haven't always been known for their gameplay, so securing a solid writer is a complete must.
MuddyDonut
Member
Block puzzles were a staple of that PSone era, I doubt they will ever come back any time soon.
Darkmakaimura
Member
I completely agree. I wanted the demons to be demons, not deformed people from the past. I also really did not like the whole Hash'ak'gik being one of Raziel's brothers.
No. An ideal reboot SHOULD be with Kain, I mean, MUST, he's the front man, the big guy, the protagonist and the "pillar" of the story. I'm only saying that, reimagining blood omen, for example, as a 3D action adventure game, and paying respect to the original is too hard for a first attempt. It's too much lore, too much creative constraints. A game between BO and SR at the height (or just pre-height) of Kain's realm would be great because it could explore parts never seen before and would begin with already stablished characters and arquetipes.
Seeing the pre-wraith Raziel and his relationship with kain would be good too.
Hold A to damn the world.
Gsak
Member
I think a reboot should go something like this. Begin with Kain. Retell the original Blood Omen. Explore the time between Blood Omen and Soul Reaver (Blood Omen 2 should be skipped imo). Retell Soul Reaver 1&2 (perhaps start second, spin-off series with Raziel). Then retell Defiance and go from there.
Risk Breaker
Member
Oh god....... lskdjflsñdf
DOn't toy with our hearts SE!!!!
DOn't toy with our hearts SE!!!!
soulassssns
Banned
I also dont want a darksiders clone. puke.
Small Mailman
Member
Oh yes!
Well let's see what can be "Influence" for these games.
God of War
Skyrim/Oblivion?
Witcher?
Dark Souls?
Where is Mama?
Are you OK Mame Robotnik? Post if you're OK.
But Legacy of Kain was always a Zelda clone just like Darksiders.
That's what SSM would do. Barlog (and Jaffe) are capable of more.
Yep, #shotsfired
Soooo many good quotes, oh man. And the voice acting! Any new Legacy of Kain game is going to have very big shoes to fill.
Unfortunately there's a reasonable chance of this being the case.
Considering the series has been spread out between three different genres and doesn't have an identity, what would core fans want most? It has already been a Zelda clone, which is the same as the first Darksiders to an an extent.
Melchiah
Member
I had completely forgotten that, or perhaps blocked it from my memory.
Gsak
Member
No it wasn't.
Kain was a new vampire out for revenge in a dark world.
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