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[Yes Boss!]

In all this s-video craziness I totally forgot the Framemeister can accept a SCART cable... Those seem easier to find and should produce an even better picture, right? Does it provide audio as well? I have no experience with SCART whatsoever!

Yeah,

The same retro cable place (florida) that sell all those cable sells the scart...you just gotta also get the adapter that switches the EU-to-J21. Those are another $20 (on top of $20 for the cable). Well worth it...if you have a Framemeister you should not be looking at S-Video unless it is a last resort.

I don't know about the Framemeister, but for the XRGB-3, make sure you're using a Japanese RGB SCART cable otherwise you will blow up your SCART port. I guess this won't be an issue with the Framemeister because you are already using an adapter to plug it in, but I really am not sure about it so take it with a grain of salt.

The adapter that comes with the Frammeister is still J-21. He is still going to need the special Scart-J21 adapter that a lot of the retro sites sell specifically for the Framemeister/Mini. Also, the plug is not as fickle as that on the XRGB-3. Plugging in a Euro Scart will not fry it.

 

[metsallica]

So fun mah man. I was supposed to play RSG but I can't put Hyper Duel down for the last hour. There's just something about the low quality stage clear music that pushes me to keep playing just one more stage...



SCART will provide an even better picture quality, can't really argue with this. Even a decent third party SCART cable will provide a significantly better picture quality than the official S-Video cable from SEGA. Also, SCART does provide audio as well. I don't know about the Framemeister, but for the XRGB-3, make sure you're using a Japanese RGB SCART cable otherwise you will blow up your SCART port. I guess this won't be an issue because with the Framemeister because you are already using an adapter to plug it in, but I really am not sure about it so take it with a grain of salt.

Yeah,

The same retro cable place (florida) that sell all those cable sells the scart...you just gotta also get the adapter that switches the EU-to-J21. Those are another $20 (on top of $20 for the cable). Well worth it...if you have a framemeister you should not be looking at S-Video unless it is a last resort.

Thanks for the replies, guys. I can actually damage the port by using the wrong cable? That's kind of nuts! According to this page it's the same cable whether it's US or Japan: http://www.retro-access.com/ourshop...-cable-for-NTSC-Japanese-US-model-Saturn.html

Does that cable cover me or do I need something else? US model Saturn (MK-80000A)

 

[Teknoman]

So that makes... two GAFers that own Hyper Duel?

 

[papersleeves]

So that makes... two GAFers that own Hyper Duel?

I'm sure more have it in the Shoot the Core! shmup thread.

Thanks for the replies, guys. I can actually damage the port by using the wrong cable? That's kind of nuts! According to this page it's the same cable whether it's US or Japan: http://www.retro-access.com/ourshop...-cable-for-NTSC-Japanese-US-model-Saturn.html

Does that cable cover me or do I need something else? US model Saturn (MK-80000A)

Yes it's kinda nuts, at least for the XRGB-3. I've been extra careful about this after I've read many post over plenty of forums where users said they screwed up their SCART port after connecting an euro SCART cable in it. Just like that. You connect it, you power on your console then it's already too late!

According to Yes Boss! it shouldn't be happening with your Framemeister, thank god! The cable you linked will cover your needs.

 

[Teknoman]

I'm sure more have it in the Shoot the Core! shmup thread.

Oh right, forgot about that.

 

[Shadow Hog]

Parodius made it to the West? Interesting...

 

[Genesis Knight]

So that makes... two GAFers that own Hyper Duel?

I do, I do!

 

[ExitPlanetDust]

There's a handful of us.

 

[papersleeves]

There's a handful of us.

How many Hyper Duels can we put next to each other?

 

[ExitPlanetDust]

Maybe you have something here.

 

[papersleeves]

Maybe you have something here.

Doable I say.

 

[Yes Boss!]

Mine.

I think I paid 14000 yen ($170) last summer. The going price.

 

[Teknoman]

Going to be part of the HD club one day...

On that note, I think I want to track down RE1 Saturn, since that is the only RE game i've never played. My only experience with 1 is REmake, so i'd like to see how the first game truly was.

Also does D still hold up? I remember being really absorbed in it back in the day, but havent gone back in awhile.

 

[GulAtiCa]

How is Hyper Duel? Do you think it's worth the $200ish asking price?

 

[Yes Boss!]

How is Hyper Duel? Do you think it's worth the $200ish asking price?

It is pretty good...definitely in the top third of the shooters for Saturn. As a Tecno Soft product it is exceptional and probably my favorite of theirs.

Worth the high-ish price? Maybe. Good thing is that it will hold its value so that you can buy it and try it out for however long you want and if you hate it then just sell it. Plenty of buyers for the title.

 

[Dave Long]

That's the one nice thing about Saturn games. You're not likely to lose value over time.

I really need to get Hyper Duel. This is where hindsight is really 20/20. I could've bought many of these for like $50 at one time.

 

[meppi]

Can I join the club?

Threw in a couple other items as well since these seem to come up in conversations once in a while.

 

[Shadow Hog]

Well, you'd probably make people in the Genesis/Mega Drive Appreciation Topic jealous over your copy of Wily Wars.

 

[meppi]

Well, you'd probably make people in the Genesis/Mega Drive Appreciation Topic jealous over your copy of Wily Wars.

I don't want to give any of them a heart attack by saying I picked up my copy back in the day when it was out for a couple of months, brand new for about €20.

 

[arit]

I don't want to give any of them a heart attack by saying I picked up my copy back in the day when it was out for a couple of months, brand new for about €20.

When I was young, I tried to sell my Mega Drive stuff on a fleamarket. I returned home with everything minus one game. Guess which one ...

Pictures like these hurt.

If only I could tell my younger self to buy more of them at that price (along with Alien Soldier).

 

[woodypop]

Threw in a couple other items as well since these seem to come up in conversations once in a while.

Pengo!!! <3

 

[Snaku]

So I'm kinda at a flashpoint. I've been wanting to get into Saturn since 1996, but for one reason or another I never did. I've got enough credit at a local shop to get a Wii U or a white Saturn with Dragon Force, Christmas Nights, and Virtua Fighter 2.

 

[ExitPlanetDust]

I feel that Hyper Duel is probably the best use of the Thunder Force horizontal scrolling shoot em' up formula. It's nestled nicely between TFIV and TFV. As well as the co-op play works here, I'm surprised that (to my knowledge) we never got a two player Thunder Force title. Co-op might be worth the price of admission alone.

It's a shame that Hyper Duel is so easy when compared to the Thunder Force series. Most of the game is a cake walk until a return to form in stage 6. Though maybe that has more to do with Stage 5 lulling you into a false sense of security than any actual difficulty. And Lloyd can be pretty game breaking if you know how to use him.

I would definitely recommend picking Hyper Duel up if you have the bread lying around. It's probably tied with Thunder Force IV for 2nd place in my list of favorite horizontal shoot em' ups. I doubt Einhander will ever be dethroned, at least in my opinion.

 

[Genesis Knight]

I feel that Hyper Duel is probably the best use of the Thunder Force horizontal scrolling shoot em' up formula. It's nestled nicely between TFIV and TFV. As well as the co-op play works here, I'm surprised that (to my knowledge) we never got a two player Thunder Force title. Co-op might be worth the price of admission alone.

It's a shame that Hyper Duel is so easy when compared to the Thunder Force series. Most of the game is a cake walk until a return to form in stage 6. Though maybe that has more to do with Stage 5 lulling you into a false sense of security than any actual difficulty. And Lloyd can be pretty game breaking if you know how to use him.

I would definitely recommend picking Hyper Duel up if you have the bread lying around. It's probably tied with Thunder Force IV for 2nd place in my list of favorite horizontal shoot em' ups. I doubt Einhander will ever be dethroned, at least in my opinion.

It is very easy, and it's also quite short compared to TFIV. Not as impressive graphically, either - even the revamped Saturn mode can't make up for the missing graphical effects like heavy parallax as seen in TFIV.

I haven't played Gate of Thunder yet (still in the mail), but on Hard and Devil it looks like a very close cousin of the Thunder Force games. Closer than HD IMO but then again I haven't actually played it yet.

 

[Monroeski]

So I'm kinda at a flashpoint. I've been wanting to get into Saturn since 1996, but for one reason or another I never did. I've got enough credit at a local shop to get a Wii U or a white Saturn with Dragon Force, Christmas Nights, and Virtua Fighter 2.

That Wii U will still be around, easy to get, and inevitably much cheaper if you put it off. A White Saturn and Dragon Force will likely only get more expensive as time goes on.

 

[RoryDropkick]

I'm still kicking myself for trading away Taromaru for a copy of Leynos 2.

 

[ExitPlanetDust]

Ouch.

I think I just got an ulcer.

 

[Genesis Knight]

I'm still kicking myself for trading away Taromaru for a copy of Leynos 2.

How long ago? Was it back in the day?

 

[papersleeves]

I feel that Hyper Duel is probably the best use of the Thunder Force horizontal scrolling shoot em' up formula. It's nestled nicely between TFIV and TFV. As well as the co-op play works here, I'm surprised that (to my knowledge) we never got a two player Thunder Force title. Co-op might be worth the price of admission alone.

It's a shame that Hyper Duel is so easy when compared to the Thunder Force series. Most of the game is a cake walk until a return to form in stage 6. Though maybe that has more to do with Stage 5 lulling you into a false sense of security than any actual difficulty. And Lloyd can be pretty game breaking if you know how to use him.

I would definitely recommend picking Hyper Duel up if you have the bread lying around. It's probably tied with Thunder Force IV for 2nd place in my list of favorite horizontal shoot em' ups. I doubt Einhander will ever be dethroned, at least in my opinion.

Can you explain to me why do you feel like Einhander is the best shmup you have ever played? Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed the game immensely but it isn't top 5 material, at least for me. I'm just curious.

 

[ExitPlanetDust]

Can you explain to me why do you feel like Einhander is the best shmup you have ever played? Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed the game immensely but it isn't top 5 material, at least for me. I'm just curious.

Einhander is just my favorite horizontal style shmup. Far from my favorite overall shmup. I'm actually not a huge fan of horizontal shmups in general. I enjoy verticals much more.

Add: I actually couldn't stand that side (no pun intended) of the shmup genre for a long time. It wasn't until about a year ago, when I revisited Thunder Force III on the Genesis, that I started to appreciate side scrollers.

If we're talking about my favorite shmup ever, my heart belongs to Soukyugurentai.

 

[Psycho Echidna]

Can I join as well ?

 

[RoryDropkick]

How long ago? Was it back in the day?

Yeah, around 2001-02. The guy who I traded it to doesn't even have it anymore

 

[ExitPlanetDust]

I would store my Hyper Duel in a CD bag, but I'm afraid of mold in this Texas humidity.

 

[Valkyria]

So I'm kinda at a flashpoint. I've been wanting to get into Saturn since 1996, but for one reason or another I never did. I've got enough credit at a local shop to get a Wii U or a white Saturn with Dragon Force, Christmas Nights, and Virtua Fighter 2.

All the way man, all the way.

 

[oneida]

So I'm kinda at a flashpoint. I've been wanting to get into Saturn since 1996, but for one reason or another I never did. I've got enough credit at a local shop to get a Wii U or a white Saturn with Dragon Force, Christmas Nights, and Virtua Fighter 2.

As a huge fan of the Saturn, I'll point out that a better version of VF2 is on XBLA/PSN for $5 and that I see no reason that a Saturn + JP Dragon Force + JP Xmas Nights should cost you as much as a Wii U. There are cheaper ways of doing this.

 

[xemumanic]

So that makes... two GAFers that own Hyper Duel?

Add me to that list.

 

[Credo]

Add me to that list.

And add me once it actually gets here. I've been building up my collection over time, and this one is still in mid-shipment.

 

[depths20XX]

As a fan of shmups I really fucking want a Saturn...I dunno if my wallet feels the same...

 

[Snaku]

As a huge fan of the Saturn, I'll point out that a better version of VF2 is on XBLA/PSN for $5 and that I see no reason that a Saturn + JP Dragon Force + JP Xmas Nights should cost you as much as a Wii U. There are cheaper ways of doing this.

It's actually NA Dragon Force, NA Christmas Nights, and NA Virtua Fighter 2.

 

[Exr]

Can I join the club?


Threw in a couple other items as well since these seem to come up in conversations once in a while.

Is that Taromaru? Hot damn impressive, I'm jealous.

 

[cj_iwakura]

It's actually NA Dragon Force, NA Christmas Nights, and NA Virtua Fighter 2.

Yep, no way is a Wii U worth as much as that. You know what to do.

 

[meppi]

Is that Taromaru? Hot damn impressive, I'm jealous.

It is.
Finally picked up a like new copy last year.
Been wanting to grab one for a long time now. Great game btw. reminds me a bit of Alisia Dragoon.
I've seen one in Yes Boss!'s pics before, so I know I'm not alone here.

Something I think might even be rarer is a copy of Motteke Tamago for the PC-Engine.
It was never released as a retail release, but came with a copy of FC-Engine Fan.

I picked up this copy a couple of years ago and never came across it again. Didn't even knew it existed at the time.

 

[Shadow Hog]

Yep, no way is a Wii U worth as much as that. You know what to do.

Eh, I'd say the U is worth a couple hundred, but nevertheless, Dragon Force isn't particularly cheap, and is a lot harder to find.

 

[cj_iwakura]

Eh, I'd say the U is worth a couple hundred, but nevertheless, Dragon Force isn't particularly cheap, and is a lot harder to find.

It's also worth its weight in gold.

 

[Shadow Hog]

But seriously, can we keep the Wii U trashing out of here? One thing I like about this topic is that it has, for the most part, been devoid of trash-talk, and instead focuses on mutual love for video games (specifically Saturn ones, but nevertheless). If I needed to see people taking potshots at the Wii U, I have every other topic in Gaming for that.

Instead, let's talk about how great Dragon Force is. (At least, I would, but I've never played it...)

 

[cj_iwakura]

But seriously, can we keep the Wii U trashing out of here? One thing I like about this topic is that it has, for the most part, been devoid of trash-talk, and instead focuses on mutual love for video games (specifically Saturn ones, but nevertheless). If I needed to see people taking potshots at the Wii U, I have every other topic in Gaming for that.

Instead, let's talk about how great Dragon Force is. (At least, I would, but I've never played it...)

No slight at the Wii U, I just think Dragon Force is that good.


And it is truly incredible. I've done a Let's Play of it in the past if you're interested.

One of my favorite games ever.

Here's some music:

Tristan Empire
Izumo Nation

 

[Shadow Hog]

That first track made me think so very much of Skies of Arcadia.

One quick trip to Sega Retro confirms that Tatsuyuki Maeda did both games. (And Astal, which I'd never realized.) My interest in this game's soundtrack has just grown considerably.

 

[Ramune]

I'll have to give that LP a look as I played it and didn't know what the heck I was doing. ^_^;

 

[lupin23rd]

Which game is better - Battle Garegga or Hyper Duel?

Probably pick them both up while I'm in Japan, but I don't know much about either. Assumed due to price and name Hyper Duel was a kusoge but the comments here are fairly positive.

Anyone have DeliSoba Deluxe?

 

[DasDamen]

There's a handful of us.

I'm afraid to buy this now. I just bought Thunder Force V (albeit at a much lower price) and I absolutely hate it compared to almost all other shmups on the Saturn. Something just feels off about the game.