MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Rule Valhalla? More like protect some chair in some backwater shrine. Great rulership. Can't wait to meet the royal subjects.
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There's a whole host of reasons why Lightning is disliked by so many. The character herself fails to be particularly interesting or entertaining. The game she debuted in is awful. The FFXIII games have become the "Lightning Saga" so she represents the weak XIII games. Square-Enix have made a special effort in giving Lightning exposure levels reserved to folks like Cloud, Mario, Master Chief in making her a mascot for the series.
I'm not a fan of XIII but I'll never understand the hate towards Lightning. I'm not naming names, but there are at least 4 other characters in that game that annoyed me.
Lightning should be the mascot of Squeenex.
Lightning should be the mascot of Squeenex.
She should be in every Final Fantasy game from here on out. Hell, she should be in other Squeenex games like Dragon Quest, Hitman, etc...
Just saying, Lightning had such good chemistry with Kain that they put him in XIII-2.
You are correct, it's more about fan politics. Her being a mediocre to poor character doesn't help.I like Lightning. I think she's kind of hot. But aside from that, I think she's one of the better FF characters in recent years. That's just my opinion.
So just wondering why the hate going on? Let me guess, is it NOT her as a character but more about what she represents with current Square-Enix's tumultuous times: like how they push her into every game, FFXIII's disappointment, Dissidia, ios, etc.
I don't think she's that bad as a character. As for the games she stars in...that I can understand, give or take.
I agree. Like Cid, but she is the same in every game. Just change her clothes or something.
First paragraph is well-written and sums it up. Besides, don't forget XII had a few spin-offs and you can find characters akin to Balthier & co. in Tactics and Vagrant Story.Why the hate? Because the kind of character she represents is totally indicative of all that is wrong with FF (and a lot of other JRPGs & anime) today. All style. Zero substance. The same overly melodramatic, angsty, shallow, generic "animu" tropes that have been run into the ground repeatedly by the genre. God, we JUST had an incredibly well written JRPG starring an entire cast of teenagers that proved that it IS possible to sidestep every single one of those awful stereotypes and tell a great story in the process (Persona 4), but FFXIII just went ahead and jumped headfirst right into the pit again.
What's even more upsetting though is that the previous game in the same series had a great cast of well written, mature, intelligent, nuanced, and respectable characters that didn't appeal to terrible anime stereotypes and treat the player like an idiot. Heroes and villains alike. They didn't throw temper tantrums and whine about their lives in every other cutscene. It's a shame that somehow that those characters managed to worm their way into 3 games while characters like Baasch, Gabranth, Vossler, Balthier, & Reddas are totally forgotten.
I think it already happened.
At least S-E is being true to itself. Garbage should represent garbage.
Her visual design is fine, but her character is soulless, boring, and hard to care for.
Rule Valhalla? More like protect some chair in some backwater shrine. Great rulership. Can't wait to meet the royal subjects.
:/
Rule Valhalla? More like protect some chair in some backwater shrine. Great rulership. Can't wait to meet the royal subjects.
:/
Lightning should be the mascot of Squeenex.
She should be in every Final Fantasy game from here on out. Hell, she should be in other Squeenex games like Dragon Quest, Hitman, etc...
I agree. Like Cid, but she is the same in every game. Just change her clothes or something.
Advent Children Cloud retroactively erased the Cloud that was in VII.Her visual design is fine, but her character is soulless, boring, and hard to care for. People compare her to Cloud, but at least Cloud had character. He was charming, funny, and insecure. There were dimensions to his personality, regardless of what you may think of FFVII. Lightning though... Jesus there's nothing there. Someone said she was a sexy action figure, that's a perfect way of putting it.
So the next GILGY?
I was tempted to.I stopped reading after "I think she's kinda hot"
Oh god damnit. lol
At least S-E is being true to itself. Garbage should represent garbage.
I stopped reading after "I think she's kinda hot"
I was tempted to.
You may as well have. It's clear that's the root if most of these defenses. "Lightning's hot!"
Oh yeah. Character of the generation. Truly.
So just wondering why the hate going on? Let me guess, is it NOT her as a character but more about what she represents with current Square-Enix's tumultuous times: like how they push her into every game, FFXIII's disappointment, Dissidia, ios, etc.
I agree. Like Cid, but she is the same in every game. Just change her clothes or something.
...wait a minute, Dissidia is bad?
For me, Dissidia 012 is the second-best game with the Final Fantasy name on it in the last decade (the first is Theatrhythm).
I know you jest, but Vaan. I don't even think Lightning is that sexualized in XIII.In other words Square degraded themselves to sex sells. What's the motto with them?
I like Lightning. I think she's kind of hot. But aside from that, I think she's one of the better FF characters in recent years. That's just my opinion.
So just wondering why the hate going on? Let me guess, is it NOT her as a character but more about what she represents with current Square-Enix's tumultuous times: like how they push her into every game, FFXIII's disappointment, Dissidia, ios, etc.
I don't think she's that bad as a character. As for the games she stars in...that I can understand, give or take.
I know you jest, but Vaan. I don't even think Lightning is that sexualized in XIII.
The story is still asinine. And Duodecim segments were the only improvement. Due to actually being well animated instead of the majority of bobblehead mania.
It's a Final Fantasy game, what did you expect?
Oh yeah. The story is pretty dumb. But the game itself is a lot of fun.
Noel would be the most recent one that's realistic to a degree.
Vaan kind of fits with the trend started by Squall and then pushed even further by Tidus.I don't even understand why they needed to adhere to JRPG customs. Should of stuck with Basch.
I like Yawna,
Vaan kind of fits with the trend started by Squall and then pushed even further by Tidus.
Don't call her that!
Not even the ironic stanning either.Is someone really stanning Lightning? Really?
Lightning's reliance on physical assault was never really called out by anyone in the game, unfortunately.The only reason I didn't like her was because she was angry almost 80% of the time in XIII. She also punched Snow, kicked Sazh, and slapped Fang. I think if the game would've continued she would've been the 1st FF protagonist to hit all the party members out of anger lol. Even in times of rest and relaxation when everybody else is joking around she's still serious. I still remember the party were having a fun conversation and she's only their to say let's go.
Not only that but I don't have a GOOD memory of her like I do for other FF protagonist's, I remember Cloud dressing up like a girl, Squall trying to dance with Rinoa, Zidane's funny comments through the game, and Tidus's infamous laugh with Yuna. When I remember Lightning though, all I can remember was that she hit people. I do remember Sazh though with his funny comments and his love for Chocobos.
This is mostly my reason so don't take it too serious here.
I know you jest, but Vaan. I don't even think Lightning is that sexualized in XIII.
The only reason I didn't like her was because she was angry almost 80% of the time in XIII. She also punched Snow, kicked Sazh, and slapped Fang. I think if the game would've continued she would've been the 1st FF protagonist to hit all the party members out of anger lol. Even in times of rest and relaxation when everybody else is joking around she's still serious. I still remember the party were having a fun conversation and she's only their to say let's go.
Not only that but I don't have a GOOD memory of her like I do for other FF protagonist's, I remember Cloud dressing up like a girl, Squall trying to dance with Rinoa, Zidane's funny comments through the game, and Tidus's infamous laugh with Yuna. When I remember Lightning though, all I can remember was that she hit people. I do remember Sazh though with his funny comments and his love for Chocobos.
This is mostly my reason so don't take it too serious here.