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Vita PSN Game & Service Thread | February 2013 | The most desirable handheld in Japan

zulux21

Member
I'm pretty sure if the DualShock 4 has a share button still when or if I finally buy a PS4, I will be opening the controller and disconnecting it. :)
I'll just use it to video capture for reviews... people watching me play and what not I don't really care about... but being able to capture video is nice as it means i can get all of my own gameplay vids and screenshots for any reviews i want to write.
 

Totobeni

An blind dancing ho
I didn't spend $200 just so I can spend another $400-500 to play games on a portable device.

You can play games on your PSVita, you don't need a PS4 for that.

So why are Vita owners supposed to be happy, then?

"some" are happy that Vita will be used as Wii U Gamepad, some are happy for the possibility of streaming the entire PSP and Vita game library using Gaikai and not caring about memory card or any kind of storage, you know "extra features" that some people who might have both PS4 and Vita might really care about...some don't care.
 

Massa

Member
Mercenary is no longer the next Killzone, Shadow Fall is. A really stupid announcement to make if it isn't a launch title, and Sony planned on making Mercenary a big deal.

I thought you'd be happy that the PS4 game isn't called KZ4.

Glad to impress.

Don't get me wrong, I love Killzone, but that aesthetic they chose didn't seem to fit; the rifle looked way different than most of the weapons in the PS3 Killzone games and if I had only caught the trailer starting at the spot where the player was holding on to the rope, I seriously would have thought "WTF? another Crysis game already?" until the door opened and a Helghan popped out.

I'm sure I'll play it eventually; But I'm not in group 3 from my previous post.

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I still can't believe they *LED* the conference off with Knack.
I would've thought some iconic Sony franchise would have been first up. Killzone (even though I'm criticizing it currently), Infamous (sorta, not as identifiable without Cole, as the aesthetic was different/new), or maybe something like Uncharted 4 or LBP3 or something that carries more weight than a new IP (which generated 0 interest for me).

Other than the outfit of your player character I don't think it looked very much like Crysis at all. I'm a huge Killzone fan though (it's my favorite FPS on the PS3) and I thought it looked amazing.

Also you should probably rewatch that Knack trailer once the conference hype is over. It looks pretty damn cool.
 

Noi

Member
One thing I really liked about the new Killzone was the use of colors. Seriously, if anyone complains about brown shooters in 2013, they didn't watch that trailer.

And yeah, Knack looked really cool too. It was likely BS from Capcom, but the kind of work that went into the individual rocks/stuff that made up that robot character thing is the kind of technical stuff they said kept characters like Venom, Carnage, Human Torch, etc from being in MvC3. There's a lot more going on in that trailer that what's seen at a glance.
 

Totobeni

An blind dancing ho
Other than the outfit of your player character I don't think it looked very much like Crysis at all. I'm a huge Killzone fan though (it's my favorite FPS on the PS3) and I thought it looked amazing.

Also you should probably rewatch that Knack trailer once the conference hype is over. It looks pretty damn cool.

KZ just need a good story that take advantage of the setting/universe, something like The Line, the Berlin Wall idea give me hope that they are going for that,I hope they do it right.
 
(1) No launch date.
(2) Footage looked early.
(3) Footage wasn't impressive (to me, at least)

Again, I'd buy a Vita and Killzone: Mercenary before I'd ever consider a PS4 and Crysiszone: 4: Shadow Fail

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That didn't look impressive to you?
 
famousmortimer is the only one who's hinting anything of actual substance. Though if he was talking about the game I thought think hink he was, hype remains at zero for now.


Places where there's no/low-speed Wi-Fi? People who don't want to spend $400+ on a PS4?

Regardless, I think implementation will be disappointingly sloppy and rare. Sony never gets anything completely right.

I'm happy to report that my sources were 100% on the ps4 stuff including that the vita is going to be able to remote play *everything*

I didn't know if they were going to get into vita games at this thing but I do still stand by the games I mentioned coming. I'm pretty damn excited about the vita still. Off tv play is my favorite part of the Wii U... and I'm an indie game whore.
 

Vodh

Junior Member
Sony just casually dropping the "Oh, BTW, Gaikai-tech supported remote play for all PS4 games, Vita not dead confirmed, suck it, Wii-U" bomb was absolutely the best part of the conference.
 
I'm living in Japan and thinking of getting a Vita and paying for PS+. I probably wouldn't buy any games except Persona 4, and I used to be a big fan of PSO so I'll probably download that as it comes out next week. Any pros/ cons I should be aware of, or other opinions? I already have a European 3DS, and while I have been tempted to just get an XL, I am pretty pissed at Nintendo with their shenanigans plus I am quite likely to buy a PS4.

Edit: to clarify why I'm posting here, I guess I want to know how good PS+ is considered to be for Vita in Japan.
 

Takao

Banned
I'm living in Japan and thinking of getting a Vita and paying for PS+. I probably wouldn't buy any games except Persona 4, and I used to be a big fan of PSO so I'll probably download that as it comes out next week. Any pros/ cons I should be aware of, or other opinions? I already have a European 3DS, and while I have been tempted to just get an XL, I am pretty pissed at Nintendo with their shenanigans plus I am quite likely to buy a PS4.

Edit: to clarify why I'm posting here, I guess I want to know how good PS+ is considered to be for Vita in Japan.

PS+ for Vita in Japan right now includes Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Dynasty Warriors NEXT, Ridge Racer Vita, Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward, and Nikori no Puzzle V Sudoku for free.
 
I'm living in Japan and thinking of getting a Vita and paying for PS+. I probably wouldn't buy any games except Persona 4, and I used to be a big fan of PSO so I'll probably download that as it comes out next week. Any pros/ cons I should be aware of, or other opinions? I already have a European 3DS, and while I have been tempted to just get an XL, I am pretty pissed at Nintendo with their shenanigans plus I am quite likely to buy a PS4.

Edit: to clarify why I'm posting here, I guess I want to know how good PS+ is considered to be for Vita in Japan.

Isn't there an upcoming price drop + one week free PS+ deal coming to Japan soon?

If you get PSO2 and have never played before, it would be awesome if you could use my referral code. We both get rewards as you level up! Drop me a PM if interested.

Still looking for PSO2 Vita OT title ideas...
 
Other than the outfit of your player character I don't think it looked very much like Crysis at all. I'm a huge Killzone fan though (it's my favorite FPS on the PS3) and I thought it looked amazing.

Also you should probably rewatch that Knack trailer once the conference hype is over. It looks pretty damn cool.

I love me some Killzone too.
However, the general aesthetic with all the colors and a sudden "holy shit it's the future, i have a glowing rifle" plus the outfit you mentioned didn't do a lot to sell the Killzone feel to me. Don't get me wrong, it looked good enough, but not system selling good.

And I don't need to watch the Knack trailer again; I'm not interested in the game. The general look of the game was an immediate turn off and I don't think I can get passed it, even if the core gameplay ended up being amazing. Seems ridiculous, but what I remember of watching it was continually thinking "oh, this is like that Havok particle demo they just showed off... but with gameplay and an artstyle I'm really not liking." :lol


One thing I really liked about the new Killzone was the use of colors. Seriously, if anyone complains about brown shooters in 2013, they didn't watch that trailer.

And yeah, Knack looked really cool too. It was likely BS from Capcom, but the kind of work that went into the individual rocks/stuff that made up that robot character thing is the kind of technical stuff they said kept characters like Venom, Carnage, Human Torch, etc from being in MvC3. There's a lot more going on in that trailer that what's seen at a glance.

Yeah, there is a lot going on in Knack trailer; this is why I made the comment about the thoughts of "oh hey, look, this is supposed to show off how powerful the system is cause of all the particle rendering and physics/Havok stuff."

And I don't know if I'm digging the colors in my Killzone. It's always had a dark/gritty aesthetic. Maybe it'll work, maybe it won't. Either way, at least I still have Killzone Mercenary. With my current plans, by the time I plan on owning a PS4, I'll pick up a copy on the cheap so long as it still *feels* like Killzone.

That didn't look impressive to you?

Sure, looks good, but it didn't blow my mind or anything.

I'm happy to report that my sources were 100% on the ps4 stuff including that the vita is going to be able to remote play *everything*

I didn't know if they were going to get into vita games at this thing but I do still stand by the games I mentioned coming. I'm pretty damn excited about the vita still. Off tv play is my favorite part of the Wii U... and I'm an indie game whore.

So... when will we learn about that Vita third-party developed, upper tier, side story of a respected franchise exclusive you mentioned?
 
so my internet went down last night so I couldnt see the conference. Still down this morning.

Get to work. Log into GAF.

PS4 will stream all games to vita. (At least thats the aim)

SOLD.

That is exactly what I wanted. Pretty much convinced me to buy another console. I wasn't going to unless that happened.


Graphics look nice but honestly nothing blew me away. Looks like high end PC graphics to me which is what I expected. I still think graphics hit a point of being able to provide realistic enough game worlds to draw you in at the beginning of this generation and anything on top of that is nice but not altogether a necessity.

So basically....... streaming ps4 games to my vita is what I was hoping for so im pretty damn happy.

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On another note I got to download 4 things last night for free. Sly cooper demo (not bad, Seems like a fun 3d platformer), Trials (was pretty fun, might get full game), lumines (loved the demo but always hated the price.... PS+ freeness il accept lol) and OMG zombies which I havnt played yet.

So yeah thats more games I dont play while I slowly get through P4G and my League of Legends addiction.
 

Number45

Member
Don't get me wrong, I love Killzone, but that aesthetic they chose didn't seem to fit; the rifle looked way different than most of the weapons in the PS3 Killzone games and if I had only caught the trailer starting at the spot where the player was holding on to the rope, I seriously would have thought "WTF? another Crysis game already?" until the door opened and a Helghan popped out.
It's set 30 years after Killzone 3, the weapons will have changed. Looks good to me.

I still can't believe they *LED* the conference off with Knack.
I would've thought some iconic Sony franchise would have been first up. Killzone (even though I'm criticizing it currently), Infamous (sorta, not as identifiable without Cole, as the aesthetic was different/new), or maybe something like Uncharted 4 or LBP3 or something that carries more weight than a new IP (which generated 0 interest for me).
Seemed pretty obvious to me that they led with a new character driven game intentionally (and from someone who has been involved with most of the PlayStation mascot character games at one point or another).
 
Isn't there an upcoming price drop + one week free PS+ deal coming to Japan soon?

If you get PSO2 and have never played before, it would be awesome if you could use my referral code. We both get rewards as you level up! Drop me a PM if interested.

Still looking for PSO2 Vita OT title ideas...
Cool since you asked, if I do get it I will use your referral.

Looked in stores today and everywhere has already applied the price drop. I was very tempted by brand new 3g model with 4gb card and Everybody's Golf for the new price, but I think I would rather get the bundle which just comes with a 32gb card and that isn't out yet...

PS+ for Japan doesn't sound too bad then.
 

Massa

Member
how so

edit: Because of remote play on PS4. Nyeehh. Sony's PR said "most" games or something to that. They didn't say all, lol.

That's probably due to some games using the Move or other peripherals that are impossible to translate to the Vita. I don't think a game designed for PS3/PS4 game would be a problem.
 

Toma

Let me show you through these halls, my friend, where treasures of indie gaming await...
That's probably due to some games using the Move or other peripherals that are impossible to translate to the Vita. I don't think a game designed for PS3/PS4 game would be a problem.

Yup, considering they also mentioned you could stream your game to any other user, I have no doubts that Vita will support every non-move/non-camera game as well.
 

Takao

Banned
how can i get wake up club's brightness setting during standbye to be a normal vita option

also, the no heroes allowed clock is really nice
 

Redhood

Member
That's probably due to some games using the Move or other peripherals that are impossible to translate to the Vita. I don't think a game designed for PS3/PS4 game would be a problem.

maybe thats what the mysterious accessory port is for! we could get a vita light sensor!
 

zulux21

Member
heh... despite the fact that there was no price cut announced for the vita last night, sony's conference seems to have had an effect on vita sales.

when I went to bed the basic vita at $250 was rank 550 or so in video game sales, this morning it's around 330. Not a huge increase but still... imagine what happens after the price drop is announced.
 
And I don't know if I'm digging the colors in my Killzone. It's always had a dark/gritty aesthetic. Maybe it'll work, maybe it won't.
Killzone was gritty and dark (in 2 & 3 at least) because the action took place on Helghan, filled with slums and fascist architecture. The Vektan tech and ships have always seen more colorful, and it seems to me they built upon that here when designing the Vektan part of the city. And in any case, there was the whole cold war Berlin split city thing, with the glimpses we got of the Helghan part of it looking as brown and fascist as always, so you'll probably get your share of grit eventually.
 
heh... despite the fact that there was no price cut announced for the vita last night, sony's conference seems to have had an effect on vita sales.

when I went to bed the basic vita at $250 was rank 550 or so in video game sales, this morning it's around 330. Not a huge increase but still... imagine what happens after the price drop is announced.
People really want that remote play. :p

Did Sony mention PS1/2/3 games will be streamable to Vita as well as PS4? 'Cause if so, looks like I can finally play XCOM on Vita.

With no used game blocking and no always online as well as Vita functionality, I'm definitely getting a PS4 first next-gen. My only worry for remote play is the lack of buttons on the Vita.
 
At those ranks it's probably like 20 more sold :D

And buttons can be quite easily mapped to back touchpanel

My worry is 1.) that works but it totally sucks lol 2.) PS4 has touchpad now, so what about games that use that?

I want a console addon that adds more triggers and grips from Sony!
 

erpg

GAF parliamentarian
KZ just need a good story that take advantage of the setting/universe, something like The Line, the Berlin Wall idea give me hope that they are going for that,I hope they do it right.
I remember reading that Guerilla finally hired some writers last year. That's a plus. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have a dedicated position before.
 

zulux21

Member
At those ranks it's probably like 20 more sold :D

And buttons can be quite easily mapped to back touchpanel

yeah it's likely not a huge amount, but after the japanese price cut i expected the vita sales to go no where but down in NA until the NA price cut is announced so seeing any positive gain is impressive to me lol.
 

Takao

Banned
Last night's presentation was quite the contrast to the one from 2011 that revealed Vita. We got one third party game announcement, and it was a Call of Duty logo. PS4 got Final Fantasy on Paper, Diablo 3, Destiny, Wash Dogs, The Witcher 3, and Deep Down. Instead we got Epic, Capcom, Konami, and SEGA to go on stage and lie though!
 
I was pleasantly surprised to receive a $10 voucher in my inbox (ps3). Really want some more vita PSN games to hit the store. This $44 is burning a hole in my pocket.

I went ahead and purchased Kyntt Underground and Alien Breed last. I don't regret either purchase as they are well worth the price.
 
What new Vita games did they show? I missed the conference

They didn't show Vita games but I should have been more specific, they showed new games in general. That Knack game is confirmed to stream to Vita so /shrug. I think if they finally do remote play justice it'll be a big deal.
 

Cha

Member
Quoted from this thread> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514716

A word also on the PlayStation Vita. You have been particularly visible in 2012, with Assassin's Creed Liberation distributed to 600,000 pieces. What conclusions do you draw from this experience? Can the convergence logic with the PS4/PSV revive interest for Sony's handheld, in your opinion?

What I liked about the presentation is that they use the power of the Vita to use it as a PS4 controller. If they could get enough PS Vita in the hands of consumers, we could use this double screen feature. It would be fabulous. Now we need to be able to do it, because the Vita has a fairly high cost. I'm waiting to see more on the subject.

You mention dual screen. Could this mean that you could, for instance, only develop one Assassin's Creed game PS4 and Vita would show the same game, instead of creating a game specifically for the handheld?

What is needed is more Vita to be sold. The greater the install base, the more publishers will want to utilize it.

This worries me a bit. I love the fact that we'll be getting remote play on Vita through PS4. But that is only possible if you have a PS4. I really hope dev's don't start seeing the Vita as a peripheral for the PS4, rather than a standalone gaming device.
Mentioned it in another thread too, before seeing this article.
 
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