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Thief on PS4 looks 'almost identical' to PC version, runs on Unreal Engine 3
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Raitosaito
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I think I agree with this sentiment. Developers aren't going to make better assets on an in house engine or UE4 so whatever works.
UE3 has nothing to do with how it looks.
chickdigger802
Banned
Didn't SE also say Deus ex wii u looks as sharp as pc version?
Wii u = ps4 = pc
Wii u = ps4 = pc
of course I was talking about the addition of supersampling (rendering at a higher resolution than displayed), which would effect fillrate requirements quite drastically.
Wii U isn't a high end PC, at best it is comparable to a midrange gaming laptop.
Cyborg
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Haters gonna hate
Sharper, actually.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
So not close, then.
Did Star Wars 1313 look current gen too? UE3 games can still produce stunning visuals. Just so happens that Thief 4 isn't one of them.
Maybe it is a joke about the AA.
Though it could be tied to the DLC having better graphics than the basic game, which has been applied to the entire game iirc.
chickdigger802
Banned
Current gen ports been holding back wii u. No wonder no one is porting stuff to it. They are clearly working on next gen games for it.
Wii u lead skew of all next gen ( no ea and unreal 4) games.
Wii u lead skew of all next gen ( no ea and unreal 4) games.
Since when do looks have anything to do with FPS?
If the game looks like the PC version it looks like the PC version. Framerate is irrelevant to that.
Glass Rebel
Member
In games? Since always?
BrainZEROX
Member
Occulus Rift support? Come on. Do it Eidos.
Not for this game, at least. UE3 doesn't support MSAA.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Not saying the artists are bad but it might be an artstyle choice that makes the game not so demanding on the highest settings.
At least it doesnt LOOK demanding.
Was kind of expecting more for a 2013 game, though.
At least it doesnt LOOK demanding.
Was kind of expecting more for a 2013 game, though.
MickeyKnox
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UE3 means a 4K-1080p downsample for me and a bunch of other people, I don't understand why developers insist on claiming parity as a bullet point when it's a moving target.
angular graphics
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Framerate is very relevant to the discussion. A game running at 1 FPS could look amazing, but it would be just that, running a slideshow. Comparisons have to be drawn in comparable terms. While many appear to be fine with 30 FPS, despite it being a severe handicap to the experience in both IQ and game play, you can't take that as a fair comparison in equal terms.
No? Framerate is just how smooth it is in motion and how well it plays, has no impact on how it looks. Looks have impact on framerate of course, but not the other way around.
So 30 FPS is a slideshow for non action oriented games now? Lol.
Tummi Gummi
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/1996
You're posting charts of a custom-made benchmark for Oblivion specifically designed to test GPU grunt in the most demanding situations of the game. That's hardly a legitimate comparison.
Glass Rebel
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amstradcpc
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Well, this isnt the most suitable developer to start abusing onion+ and the 64 compute queues,so is normal they say this. Not even Epic seems to know of its existence in UE4...
Is the topic not about how it looks?
The games didn't always reflect that.
The 360 port of Doom 3 was sub-30FPS.
Won out in other contemporary games as well.
Is there a 360 port of Doom 3 I am not aware of? The one that released last year was supposed to run at a constant 60 fps. Maybe you are thinking of Quake 4? That ran like shit on the 360.
Reminds me of Diablo 3. Man I was so disappointed with that game.
Glass Rebel
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About how the game looks, not its screenshots. If you don't care, that's fine, but framerate does have an impact on how a moving picture is perceived.
You mentioned how FPS is irrelevant, now in your response you finally give your standard in comparison, which is 30. Therefore it is relevant in the discussion. And by no means is 30 a slideshow.
I've posted this tool several times, but it serves as a nice comparison. However the other important difference between 30 to 60, or even 120 can't be seen which is response time, affecting controls unless you play something to test.
http://frames-per-second.appspot.com/
Tummi Gummi
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There was an "Xbox classics" version released for the 360, presumably the original Xbox version with some minor fiddling. The BFG version from last year is a heavily optimized (lower-res textures, heavier compression) port/remake (it's complicated, technologically) specifically aimed at the 360.
I'm already well aware that 60 FPS is much smoother than 30 and is necessary for faster paced action games, but Thief isn't supposed to be one of those.
That's irrelevant to me in a topic speaking on strictly visuals when we know the game won't be a slideshow.
I can see this game being next-gen's Perfect Dark Zero. I mean it looks great, but if this was all I had seen of "next-gen" - I would probably hold out on purchasing because it's just not that much of a graphical leap to justify whatever the next gen pricetag will be.
Power Point presentations can be just as pretty
I honestly can not find any information on this. Any sauce?
Tummi Gummi
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So it will be pretty well optimized and a breeze to tweak? Awesome.
Downsampling + SMAA @ 60fps will be easy.
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People bitching about limited options on PC clearly don't play many UE3 based games.
This game isn't going to have a half ass, limited config like Bioshock 2 or one that's encrypted like Bulletstorm. If it's anything like Borderlands 2, Dishonored or Bioshock Ininite, we'll be fine.
Downsampling + SMAA @ 60fps will be easy.
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People bitching about limited options on PC clearly don't play many UE3 based games.
This game isn't going to have a half ass, limited config like Bioshock 2 or one that's encrypted like Bulletstorm. If it's anything like Borderlands 2, Dishonored or Bioshock Ininite, we'll be fine.
The Xbox Classics version. I know there was an Xbox version of Doom 3 (which ran poorly), and a Xbox 360 version (which ran great). If memory serves me right you could play the Xbox version of Doom 3 on the 360 via emulation (in which case performance would be no better on the 360 than on the original Xbox). However, I can not find any information about a 360 version of Doom 3 that released prior to the BFG version.
I think thats harsh on Perfect Dark Zero, its textures were jaw dropping and even today are still arguably the best textures on the 360 -
Theif doesn't come close even now.
JonathanPower
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According to IGN the only Doom3 on Xbox360 is the BFG edition, that in no way has lower res textures than the original Xbox1 version.
likedamaster
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I don't understand why more people aren't excited about this. I think it's good news. And that they'll give us(who prefer pc first when available) those features specifically for our platform, is reassuring.
Maybe I'm just too optimistic. Carry on.
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Maybe I'm just too optimistic. Carry on.
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angular graphics
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He means compared to the 2004 PC version.
I can't recall any version of Doom 3 for the 360 prior to the BFG version. One could play the old Xbox version on the 360 but that wouldn't really make the performance comparisons being made in this thread apt.
That's better than what the Wii U is doing.
The lighting is the only thing from this game that I would say is beyond what we're seeing from current-gen games. Everything else looks mostly on-par with current-gen, but I guess that could be because the game was originally intended for current-gen consoles and that what were seeing could be an up-port of sorts (I'm well aware that this is next-gen only).
Nothing we're seeing here seems looks like anything the PS4 can't do in 1080p/60fps.
Because the game overall does not really look all that "next gen" for the devs to claim that the PS4 version can't match the PC. And once again before we lose perspective, I am basing it on the numerous "stills" released.
Kazuma Kiryu
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why did you post a kz3 shot?
Fair enough.... now step back and take another screenshot. Looks like utter garbage. (Don't mean to piss anybody off, this is just my opinion)
likedamaster
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Could simply be a classic case of mistaking artstyle & direction for "graphics". Just my take on it, I haven't really seen anything substantial from Thief 4.
Its that bottom shot isn't it?, i didn't think it was PDZ as the quality wasn't there, i used Google for the images.