Everyone had a chance to use power weapons in previous Halo games. That's actually one of the main components of multiplayer strategy. The rush for the initial power weapon spawns followed by the timing/location of subsequent spawns. Halo 4 throws all of this out the window. No skill is required; who needs to remember weapon locations and spawn times when it all shows up on your HUD?
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Halo 4 is Top-Selling Microsoft Studios Game of Its Respective Launch Year
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Everyone had a chance to use power weapons in previous Halo games. That's actually one of the main components of multiplayer strategy. The rush for the initial power weapon spawns followed by the timing/location of subsequent spawns. Halo 4 throws all of this out the window. No skill is required; who needs to remember weapon locations and spawn times when it all shows up on your HUD?
SatansReverence
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Halo 3 has hit detection problems (netcoding wasn't ready for P2P bullet physics) and aim/movement acceleration were very unwelcomed additions.
Halo 4 however is near childish in it's ease of aiming. Add to that flinch instead of descoping and you get a game where practially every single player can aim like an MLG Pro. It's terrible and that isn't even going into the rest of the stuff added to multiplayer with the express purpose of lowering the skill gap
Than I would personally rent it. I wouldn't buy it knowing what I do now. Hell, I only bought it because I was fooled into believing it was going to be better than Reach.
PedroLumpy
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Poker Face
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Joke post?
soulassssns
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brandonh83
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Sounds like Halo, my only tether to buying new Microsoft consoles, has just went to the shitter.
SatansReverence
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Of the overwhelming majority of people who bought Halo 4...
EightBitNate
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Fuck Halo 4 haters. 343 was given an impossible mission and did damn well.
Warm Machine
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Halo 3 has hit detection problems (netcoding wasn't ready for P2P bullet physics) and aim/movement acceleration were very unwelcomed additions.
Halo 4 however is near childish in it's ease of aiming. Add to that flinch instead of descoping and you get a game where practially every single player can aim like an MLG Pro. It's terrible and that isn't even going into the rest of the stuff added to multiplayer with the express purpose of lowering the skill gap
I can barely tell the diff between Reach and 4 aiming and firing wise in MP. I would have to fo a full A-B.
I don't get this skill ceiling thing people go on about. In every Halo, CoD, Battlefield, etc match you have amazing players with huge KD ratios and you get mid range and scrubs/noobs. Obviously there is some benefit to playing well otherwise everything would be even.
Mechanic evolution is part and parcel of games. I bought the new Counterstrike on XBLA when it came out and played 10 minutes of it before being bored to tears by how archaic the whole thing was. Even Battlefield 1943 embraced more modern conventions and that was released years prior.
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Aggrotek
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Yea, because anything that has an overwhelming opinion is automatically more credible.
I cite Justin Bieber as my source.
How does that mean anything? I don't think Halo 4 is that great, but if someone enjoys it, they enjoy it.
This right here!! Quoted for effin truth!
RedAssedApe
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Not exactly apples to apples comparison.
People who dislike Justin Bieber were most likely never fans of Justin Bieber. There are plenty of people who dislike Halo 4 and dropped it within months of release who had played the previous Halos religiously up until the release of the next Halo game.
Rogue_Ledr
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Game sold on the hype of 3 and the return of the Master Chief.
The next one will probably sell WAY less.
The next one will probably sell WAY less.
SatansReverence
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I don't think you will find one of previous games as it's mostly used to laugh at Halo 4.
It's just a graph showing the highest number of unique players online at any given time during the day. Halo 3 and Halo Reach both had significantly higher numbers.
Aggrotek
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I was comparing the amount of opinions. Not the amount of time someone has liked a thing.
I'm saying that just because something has a shit ton of popularity (or unpopularity) does not justify it being bad, or good.
NullPointer
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The bold is correct though. The ordnance system means more players with more power weapon time, no matter when you jump in (release day or months down the line).
Apart from Call of Duty and Battlefield they all drop off to under 1000 daily peak within a week...then less than 50 within 3 months from my experience. Not sure about Killzone but I assume it's alot lower than COD, Halo and Battlefield.
SatansReverence
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The biebs might have a lot of "haters" but the amount of fans would massively out numbered them.
Aggrotek
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What, in a gang fight? What the fuck does it matter? Jesus.
NullPointer
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BTW I have no idea how to parse the statements in the OP.
So, I take it thats supposed to be impressive? Somehow?
So, I take it thats supposed to be impressive? Somehow?
Best selling of all time... in their respective launch year... in the US!
I somehow doubt that accolade will end up in Guinness book of records.
SEGAvangelist
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How is this news bending the truth in any way? MS is comparing sales to previous Halo games in an equal timeframe. This makes sense.
SlipperyMoose
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It is the fastest selling Halo within a year ever is what they mean. Halo 4 was different but I liked it and I'm a long time Halo fan.
Rickenslacker
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Just so I know where you're coming from, what do you consider mechanically evolutionary in Halo 4, and what did you find archaic about CS:GO?
Randolph Freelander
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This one.
Halo 4 single player is not the least bit enjoyable. Homogenized Covenant. Uninteresting Prometheans. Bullet sponges. "Run out of ammo? Here, pick up this weapon, it's completely different! (And indistinguishable.)" Absolutely horrible story. It's a lousy excuse for a Halo and it's the final nail in the coffin. The series is dead to me. (Halo CE, however, lives on.)
Can't tell you anything about multiplayer. Haven't touched it.
NullPointer
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Same here. And unlike many in HaloGAF, I *wanted* different (and expected it with the transition from Bungie to 343). But we all have different lines in the sand that determines what's true to Halo and what's not, and what adds new dimensions of gameplay and what removes them.
shinobi602
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I like it both ways. I liked that a lot of people has the chance to get power weapons. Spiced up the matches considerably and changed up the dynamics of the match. You never knew what your enemy could be wielding and had to adapt. Good fun to me.
RedAssedApe
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Except I think it does if the game isn't even able to hang on to its core fanbase. It'd be different if its changes ended up losing that fanbase but replacing it with an equal or greater number of news fans. If you go by the MP statistics alone its simply not.
Aggrotek
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Except by definition of opinion, you can't. I am part of it's core fan base and I really enjoy the game. But I guess its still a bad game though because everyone else hates it! Guess I should go sell it because everyone else has a different opinion than me!
You've already been reprimanded over this absolutely ridiculous statement, but I'm going to kill myself now just to drive the point home.
Halo 4 is an offense to the entire franchise. I can't imagine how the guys at Bungie feel, seeing their old baby taken out back, shot, and then shit on by corporate executives.
AusRoachman
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Excellent news, Halo 4 was my favourite halo game since 1 (and yes that includes multiplayer).
Everyone has different tastes, i enjoyed some of the enemy changes and weapons.
Everyone has different tastes, i enjoyed some of the enemy changes and weapons.
oh god someone help i'm choking i can't breathe
this is the funniest thing i've read all day
i cant believe that's a real post on the internet
RedAssedApe
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Excellent news, Duke Nukem Forever was my favorite Duke Nukem game since 1 (and yes, that includes multiplayer).
Everyone has different tastes, I enjoyed some of the enemy changes and new weapons.
Aggrotek
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Deadly Cyclone
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10x better than Reach, easily.
I really do tire of the gaming side Halo 4 hate threads. We should just keep Halo relegated to Community. We have one like every week now, and no matter the topic it turns into "Halo 4 really sucks though!"
Suikoguy
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I still have no idea what the fuck Microsoft is talking about.
The best selling title in one year from Microsoft games studios?
shinobi602
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AusRoachman
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I think you have a shitty taste in games but thanks for sharing. What does duke nukem have to do with halo again ?
RedAssedApe
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Its a joke, but seriously, that was a stupid thing to say dude.
nope just an opinion and why spoiler tag that? say what you have to say. i'm not going to get offended. thought it was pretty apparent that i was being tongue in cheek when i said to go sell your game cuz none one is playing it lol
A big one from those Legacy modes that is missing is Firefight.
The funny thing is you have only listed the MP problems, lets go onto SP.
- Serious non English speaking Grunts
- Terrible A.I on both sides
- No Brutes
- Promethean enemy variety is sparse
- Promethean move list is sparse (can't hijack/knock you off vehicles for example, just teleport and shoot)
- QTEs (even in Co-op)
- Uncontrollable turret segments
- Smaller/narrower levels (worse than Halo 2)
- New Promethean weapons don't feel alien enough
- Plot hole filled story
- Having to use Waypoint to view Terminals
- Forward of to Dawn connection is stupid and is only acknowledged once.
- No easter eggs outside the RvB stuff in Spartan Ops
- Chief talking too much
- Showing Chiefs face
- Too many cutscenes
- Doing something terminal to one of characters when it was unnecessary
I've already got most of this covered.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44989538&postcount=16590
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